• Starting today August 7th, 2024, in order to post in the Married Couples, Courting Couples, or Singles forums, you will not be allowed to post if you have your Marital status designated as private. Announcements will be made in the respective forums as well but please note that if yours is currently listed as Private, you will need to submit a ticket in the Support Area to have yours changed.

What Ted Haggard's fall could teach Christians

Status
Not open for further replies.

romanov

Senior Veteran
Jul 6, 2006
3,409
188
61
Alaska
✟26,926.00
Faith
Lutheran
Marital Status
Married
Politics
US-Libertarian
peterson.gif
JLPeterson.jpg
header_exclu_comm.gif
[FONT=Palatino, Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif][SIZE=+2]What Ted Haggard's fall could teach Christians[/SIZE][/FONT]
[SIZE=-1]Posted: November 17, 2006
1:00 a.m. Eastern

[/SIZE]
There is a part of my life that is so repulsive and dark that I've been warring against it all my adult life. – Rev. Ted Haggard
By now most people have heard about the story of the Rev. Ted Haggard, the conservative evangelical minister who admitted to having a sexual relationship with a gay male prostitute and to buying methamphetamine.
Rev. Haggard headed up the14,000-member New Life Church, based in Colorado. Haggard was also president of the National Evangelical Association, influencing some 30 million Christians. Ted Haggard – married with 5 children – fought for a ban on same-sex marriage this past election until he was "outed" by the prostitute.
After admitting to some of the allegations, Haggard agreed to temporarily step aside as the head of the church. But he and his wife were later informed that the church board has recommended he be permanently removed.
Haggard has since been in seclusion and is being counseled by several prominent ministers. Upon his departure, he wrote a moving, from-the-heart apology, which was read to an emotional congregation. He wrote in part:
For extended periods of time, I would enjoy victory and rejoice in freedom. Then, from time to time, the dirt that I thought was gone would resurface, and I would find myself thinking thoughts and experiencing desires that were contrary to everything I believe and teach. Through the years I have sought assistance in a variety of ways, with none of them proving to be effective in me. …
When I stopped communicating about my problems, the darkness increased and finally dominated me. …
I can't help but wonder, what if instead of removing Rev. Haggard, the church had allowed him to stay on and share his testimony about this "darkness"? Wouldn't his testimony equip Christians with a deeper understanding of the spiritual battle we all face?
This is the core issue that needs to be addressed openly with all church members, not hidden away in secrecy.
Haggard's judgment and anger opened the door to allow evil to enter into him at a time when he didn't realize what had made a home in him. This evil spirit drives Haggard and drives most people, until they repent and are born of the spirit of God.
Mike Jones, the homosexual prostitute who exposed Haggard, is a tool of the devil. If this person had true love for his fellow man, he would have approached Haggard and encouraged him to stop his sinful and destructive behavior.
Jesus Christ said we must be born again. When you're born of the spirit of God, you can do the things that are good and righteous and turn away from evil. In contrast, most Christians today believe that one can be "born again" and still sin. Yet when Haggard sinned, he was held to a different standard.
I'm not saying what Haggard did was right, nor am I trying to justify his actions, but I believe that allowing this man to openly discuss his struggles will benefit Christians greatly.
In reality, overcoming sin is not only possible, it is commanded:
No one who is a child of God sins because God's seed remains in him. Nor can he sin, because he is a child of God. This is what distinguishes the children of God from the children of the devil. ... (1 John 3: 9-10)​
I pray that Rev. Haggard would surrender himself totally to God and ask God to give him insight and understanding to overcome this spirit that has made a home in him, causing him to do the things he doesn't want to do.
In Ephesians (chapter 6, verse 10), Paul describes "The Spiritual War" this way:
… For it is not against human enemies that we have to struggle, but against the principalities and the ruling forces who are masters of the darkness in this world. … That is why you must take up all God's armor, or you will not be able to put up any resistance on the evil day. …​
Like most Christians, Rev. Haggard did not know how to fight this spiritual battle. The demons plaguing Haggard plague us all. We all do things we'd never want exposed as Haggard's darkness has been exposed. We must recognize this, and come to "know thyself."
To isolate Rev. Ted Haggard is in essence to condemn him – and it robs Christians of the opportunity to find freedom from their own sins.

Source: www.wnd.com
 

zealot66

Member
Oct 6, 2006
69
10
✟23,128.00
Faith
Non-Denom
I agree and disagree. He was knowingly living a life of hypocrisy. Restoration should be the goal but not as a pastor or leader. I dont think giving him a pass is a good idea. People need to pay the price of betrayal.

What irks me is that in two years he will write a book about the valley of darkness and healing and make a ton of money off of it.

Maybe he needs to find a job to support his family and be a husband to his wife and be in communion with real life and leave the rock concerts and stardom behind.
 
Upvote 0

EdmundtheJustified

Active Member
Nov 11, 2006
113
6
40
✟22,758.00
Faith
Presbyterian
Marital Status
Single
Politics
US-Republican
While I agree that the church needs to aid fallen humanity, to help them find healing and forgiveness and repentance, I believe that Haggard can find it outside of the context of pastoral ministry. The reality of his sin is that it was committed while he was living his life in the context of preaching and teaching the Word, of speaking for Christ to His people. The punishment is just; I agree that Haggard needs to find resolution within the confines of the church, and should not be ostracized if he is truly seeking Christ's forgiveness, but to be in a position of authority does not reflect well on the church if a leader does not bow His knee only to Christ.
 
Upvote 0

pgp_protector

Noted strange person
Dec 17, 2003
51,891
17,793
57
Earth For Now
Visit site
✟458,998.00
Gender
Male
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Widowed
Politics
US-Others
I agree and disagree. He was knowingly living a life of hypocrisy. Restoration should be the goal but not as a pastor or leader. I dont think giving him a pass is a good idea. People need to pay the price of betrayal.

What irks me is that in two years he will write a book about the valley of darkness and healing and make a ton of money off of it.

Maybe he needs to find a job to support his family and be a husband to his wife and be in communion with real life and leave the rock concerts and stardom behind.
What about a king, should they ever be restored if they fall, lie, murder ect ?
 
Upvote 0
Status
Not open for further replies.