what makes flags powerful?

[ZionFire]

You've heard it....that CRACK!, almost rifle-shot sound that pierces the air when taffeta flags are used in warfare moves.......Did it make your spirit leap? Did it call you to attention.....couldn't you almost FEEL some kind of power had been released at that moment? Maybe it even frightened you.

Or what about the sense of the Lord's gentle presence that overwhelmed you when you felt the air whoosh against your face as a silken flag gracefully floated over your head during a time of worship. I've heard testimonies of people who were healed after feeling the air produced from a ministering flag.

What is it about moving flags that is powerful?

I've heard it said that when the flags are whipping and moving, that faith is being built up in God's people, and THAT is what is powerful.

Also, flags (and banners) operate in the air.....which is the territory of the enemy....he is called "the prince of the power of the air". So perhaps that "invasion" of his territory is what calls our spirits to attention. And the display which speaks the truth of God's sovereignty has to be an awesome sight to His enemies.

So what do you think is happening when flags minister?

 

[christianguy77]

I think it's a purely emotional experience most of the time.

You gotta admit they're cool looking, but ascribing healing powers to them is messed up.

 

[ZionFire]

Christian guy, how would you explain Paul's handerchief in Acts? He sent out a piece of cloth and it seemed to carry a healing virtue. Is it such a stretch to think that God could put His anointing on a flag?

Acts 19:11,12 (NIV)
11God did extraordinary miracles through Paul, 12so that even handkerchiefs and aprons that had touched him were taken to the sick, and their illnesses were cured and the evil spirits left them.

 

[HumbleBee]

God's great peace be multiplied to you ZionFire,

Believing what contributes to the anointed power of flag ministry is the integrity of the flagger's relationship with Christ...their genuine faith...their sincere humble heart that motivates them to worship Jesus and bring glory to Him! Their joyful obedience to their Lord is spiritual warfare and certainly draws His blessings that are poured out powerfully upon His People!

As well, the visibility of flaggers is Divinely purposeful in that for those watching who are held captive and oppressed in some way...for them to see a flagger so free would be liberating...would give them hope...and inspire them!

 

[sgoolah]

aaah, the Flag Ministry.

What is it about them?

To me, they declare victory no matter what the emotion, no matter what arora of praise fills the air.

It depends on what types of flags are used. If it is big flag flown high and mighty, it brings a pride - as our hearts fill with a boastful tedancy about our Lord.

Scarfs on the other end go hand in hand with Worship dance ministry, and they flow when words cannot tell.

I believe there's a place for every ministry in the body of Christ.

I do not believe that the flag itself can administer healing or power to a person in the body of Christ.

People are tools that God uses. If He wanted flags to do the work, he would have written it in His word. HOWEVER, I DO believe that people, as tools of God can use flags as one ofTHEIR tools to administer hope and strangth.

 

[sgoolah]

Christian guy, how would you explain Paul's handerchief in Acts? He sent out a piece of cloth and it seemed to carry a healing virtue. Is it such a stretch to think that God could put His anointing on a flag?

Acts 19:11,12 (NIV)
11God did extraordinary miracles through Paul, 12so that even handkerchiefs and aprons that had touched him were taken to the sick, and their illnesses were cured and the evil spirits left them.

I believe that the flag REPUSENTS what God can do, but I do not believe that the flag itself has power or gifts. Sorry, but I don't think a flag has the same value as people do, otherwise God would have put a tongue of fire over His flags, not His disciples.


how can I explain the testimonies that people have given because of flags? I believe that God can use something (on the outside) to inspire revelations on the inside of one's heart, and I believe that the Holy Spirit can flow though a place. I believe that Flags can repusent and even be a physical repusentation of what God is doing.

Sure! God can use anything he wants so as to use for His glory, but wouldn't God administer to someone personally? I think so.

Praise the Lord for all the recourses He has provided His people with in order to glorify His name.

 

[Alejandro]

I've never experience such ministry. And to be honest it doesn't catch my attention.

I don't need a flag to show me that God's presence is in the room. Neither to confirm victory.. cause we have his word as certification.

If people like it.. good then.. but don't replace.. don't trade what God has given us (His word) for a material object.

Blessings to all!

 

[mightywarrior77]

You've heard it....that CRACK!, almost rifle-shot sound that pierces the air when taffeta flags are used in warfare moves.......Did it make your spirit leap? Did it call you to attention.....couldn't you almost FEEL some kind of power had been released at that moment? Maybe it even frightened you.

Or what about the sense of the Lord's gentle presence that overwhelmed you when you felt the air whoosh against your face as a silken flag gracefully floated over your head during a time of worship. I've heard testimonies of people who were healed after feeling the air produced from a ministering flag.

What is it about moving flags that is powerful?

I've heard it said that when the flags are whipping and moving, that faith is being built up in God's people, and THAT is what is powerful.

Also, flags (and banners) operate in the air.....which is the territory of the enemy....he is called "the prince of the power of the air". So perhaps that "invasion" of his territory is what calls our spirits to attention. And the display which speaks the truth of God's sovereignty has to be an awesome sight to His enemies.

So what do you think is happening when flags minister?

I think the flags are so awesome and powerful. They can portray gentleness with the flow of the breeze or they can present power when the soldiers tromping through the battlefields in battle. The sound of the rifles firing and the canons roaring. The soldiers march on into war, the flag held high and proud to be an American! Press onward soldier hold your head up high and lift your hand toward heaven and praise the Almighty God forever more! The flag is our strength in battle and a reminder that we are a free country. Free to worship our lord and Saviour Jesus Christ.....FREE INDEED

 

[Alejandro]

The sound of the rifles firing and the canons roaring. The soldiers march on into war, the flag held high and proud to be an American! Press onward soldier hold your head up high and lift your hand toward heaven and praise the Almighty God forever more! The flag is our strength in battle and a reminder that we are a free country. Free to worship our lord and Saviour Jesus Christ.....FREE INDEED

I don't think that you'll feel the same if one day you're in battle. War ain't what you see in the movies. It ain't what you see on the army commercials. War is war and there's nothing to be proud.. there's nothing beautiful out of it. Get back to reality and think of those inocent people caught in a war because either two political parties did not get along, or different beliefs.

When you read the scriptures... did God used a flag? When you read on revelations the second return of Jesus.. do you see a flag written somewhere? If you do please let me know cause I'm not aware and maybe I missed it.

 

[huntertim]

I don't think that you'll feel the same if one day you're in battle. War ain't what you see in the movies. It ain't what you see on the army commercials. War is war and there's nothing to be proud.. there's nothing beautiful out of it. Get back to reality and think of those inocent people caught in a war because either two political parties did not get along, or different beliefs.

When you read the scriptures... did God used a flag? When you read on revelations the second return of Jesus.. do you see a flag written somewhere? If you do please let me know cause I'm not aware and maybe I missed it.

The word "AIN'T" is not in the scripture either. (-:

Blessings
T

 

[huntertim]

The word "AIN'T" is not in the scripture either. (-:

Blessings
T

I should not have said that and I apologize in advance.

I guess the thing to remember is that we all come from different types of churches. At our church, we use flags and banners. At other churches they may not... that is their choice. I am sometimes quick to judge if someone does not agree to my idea of worship.

I like extravagant worship and this is part of the reason I like flags. God could have created the world in black and white, but thankfully he chose to be extravagant with his creation. I choose to worship God in that same way.

 

[christianguy77]

I'm not saying it isn't a valid method of worship, but as others have said -- it is God that we should look to for inspiration and support and healing, not a material object.

That being said, I do enjoy services with flags, but I also intensely dislike it when people wax rhapsodic about flags -- if one *must* wax rhapsodic, do it about God. Not his creations.

Andy

 

[PastorMikeJ]

I don't think that those in the flag ministry look to the flags for the power of God...I know that my wife doesn't... she uses the flags as a form of worship, just as music and song is worship..her flags go along with her dancing before the Lord...the flags are an extension of her that draws her closer to God during her worship time...

 

[ZionFire]

When you read the scriptures... did God used a flag?

Why yes, He does. The word "ensign" means flag or banner. Jesus is described as a "flag".

1. Isaiah 11:10
   And in that day there shall be a root of Jesse, which shall stand for an ensign of the people; to it shall the Gentiles seek: and his rest shall be glorious.
   
   
2. Isaiah 11:12
   And he shall set up an ensign for the nations, and shall assemble the outcasts of Israel, and gather together the dispersed of Judah from the four corners of the earth.
3. Isaiah 18:3
   All ye inhabitants of the world, and dwellers on the earth, see ye, when he lifteth up an ensign on the mountains; and when he bloweth a trumpet, hear ye.

In these scriptures, God "sets up" a flag/banner, one "stands" and one is "lifted up".

I'd say that God does indeed use flags.

 

[ZionFire]

I don't think that those in the flag ministry look to the flags for the power of God...I know that my wife doesn't... she uses the flags as a form of worship, just as music and song is worship..her flags go along with her dancing before the Lord...the flags are an extension of her that draws her closer to God during her worship time...

I like what you said, Mike, about the flag being an "extension". Flags make us bigger than we are naturally......great for signalling! To other believers, unbelievers and even the spiritual principalites. Flags and other worship "extensions" are a physically visible way to proclaim truth. We can speak the words of truth with our mouths......and with flags, banners, and physical form, we can "speak" truth to the eye, which is a gate to our souls.

 

[filip2mp]

aaah, the Flag Ministry.

I do not believe that the flag itself can administer healing or power to a person in the body of Christ.

People are tools that God uses. If He wanted flags to do the work, he would have written it in His word. HOWEVER, I DO believe that people, as tools of God can use flags as one ofTHEIR tools to administer hope and strangth.

i totally agree with that ^,

once at my church, we had a sister visiting and during praise & worship she began to swing meadium sized flags but within a couple of minutes one of the stewarts approched her to let her know ther was a health and saftey issue. the lady put her flags away and left the church offended.
i dont think she has ever come back