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What makes a true convert?

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Have been listening to many Jonathan Edwards sermons and have been getting absolutely picked apart. Want to say I have hope in Christ, but is it self-love? Do I truly hate sin, do I view it as God sees it, etc? Want to hear what others think on it, because I don't want to be self-deceived.
 

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I can only begin by telling you that if anyone comes on here, or any pastor or preacher you are listening to, comes on here and tells you that they know with absolute certainty how God is going to judge each individual one, that you should run very far away, or avoid such persons like the plague, because they are only wolves in sheep's clothing, etc, and there is a lot of them out there, etc.

Sin is probably a risk, but as to how much or how little to you or for you, no one knows, or ever will know this side of life here, except God and God only, ever at all ever only, and alone, etc.

God Bless!
 
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And what makes a true convert, is one who both believes and has faith in, and has kept the faith in, Jesus Christ always, down to the very end, etc.

And I cannot tell you how much sin will play a part, or be a factor in that either, etc.

And as for anyone who does, or says they can for sure, etc, well, like I said, they should be shunned/run away from, and avoided like the plague, etc.

God Bless!
 
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See it Gods way..

Jesus warning his disciples (against religious types)..

16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.
17 And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues;
18 They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover.

(Not just these disciples but all who believe GODS WAY) this is how you tell a true believer from wanna be's..

Got the signs ? good you've done it GODs way (acts 2v4, acts 2v38,1cor 14v2 etc) no your blind guides and both miss the mark.

eg mans ways (are many) : by faith no by grace no confess (which they don't only there own way) give your heart lungs and kidneys or something , for God so loved the world...believe then you obey and receive all the signs, or no that scripture does not apply.

its the whole box and dice ,all 9 yards cant pick and chose, all or nothing.
 
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Want to hear what others think on it

Why do you want strangers to comment on your Christian life?
We don't know you.
Your best option is to talk to your pastor or bible study group leader.
They will know you from your involvement with your church and will be far better placed to advise you.
 
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Well sounds like you may be from listing to this person you named.

To be a born again believer, a child of God the one condition God has given. Is to believe in His son, He sent, the promised Messiah from the prophecies of The Tanakh and trust in The Messiah for God's free gift of Eternal Life. Then a person becomes a born again believer never to lose the Eternal Life given to them by God, they are eternally a child of God.
 
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I do not want to say anything bad about Jonathan Edwards as he was responsible for preventing some of my ancestors being used as slaves (Mohican Indians)

However, sermons written to appeal to emotional passions can deviate from truth. Some branches of Christianity give the word "repent" much more of an emotional content that the Greek word metanoia (change your mind) actually has.
 
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Do I truly hate sin, do I view it as God sees it, etc?
Hello scaredtodeath, there are some other things that you mentioned in your OP that I'd like to ask you about, but I'll start here.

You asked, "do I truly hate sin"?

Well, what happens to you when you sin (or perhaps better, how does it make you feel)?

Also, is your typical reaction to sin since becoming a believer different than it used to be as a non-believer? If so, in what way(s) is it different?

Thanks!

God bless you!!

--David
p.s. - finally (if you don't mind me asking @scaredtodeath), what are you afraid of? Thanks again
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He is a great speaker for getting people to frankly evaluate if they are really in Christ or not.

In Matt 7 Jesus said that the majority of those claiming to be saved , and saying "Lord Lord" - to Him - are not actually saved.
 
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I am not asking about my own condition, I am asking for opinions in regard to the title. I know what Jon Ed. thinks on converts. I know what Tim Conway, Sproul and Piper think on converts. But I still want more opinions. No data scientist ever looked at 4 sources and said it was enough. They sought as many as they could reasonably handle, and I'm hoping & looking for the same. Also have only been at my church, passively, for a month. (no social media can't really interact like a forum) Can't really go to them for opinions because we don't know each other well enough yet. Hope this clears things up, sorry if anything sounds rude or accusatory that wasn't the goal.
 
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Thankfully I am averse to sin, but I wonder whether it's for the reasons God truly wants. Initially, I hated it because it was going to drag me into hell. Eventually, I got to the point to the point where I realize sin is wickedness and a betrayal of God as well as siding with the devil. I know people can hate sin, but for self-righteous reasons, so I'm a bit scared regarding that. Thankfully my thoughts on sin are a complete 180 from before, I didn't even care that I sinned beforehand. Maybe I'd feel guilty, maybe I'd say "wouldn't I feel better if I stopped?", but I never stopped. Still don't in some cases (temper, mercy etc), but I come to God in those cases.

(for your P.S.: if you are asking what I'm scared of in this thread, lying to God and loving Him because of His gifts. If you are asking about my name, it's a pun: I'm scaredtodeath, of death)
 
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I am not asking about my own condition
have been getting absolutely picked apart.

Your opening post was about yourself.

A true convert is one who stays faithfull to God from conversion untill there death.

We have no way of measuring someones faith, there attitude to sin, there devotion to God etc etc etc.

Get involved with your church, have the discipline of daily bible readings and times of prayer, give generously to charity, in short live to serve and honour Jesus.
 
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