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what Law did Jesus replace?

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Galatians 5:16-18
16So I say, live by the Spirit, and you will not gratify the desires of the sinful nature. 17For the sinful nature desires what is contrary to the Spirit, and the Spirit what is contrary to the sinful nature. They are in conflict with each other, so that you do not do what you want. 18But if you are led by the Spirit, you are not under law.
 
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Hebrews 12:2, 3
2Let us fix our eyes on Jesus, the author and perfecter of our faith, who for the joy set before him endured the cross, scorning its shame, and sat down at the right hand of the throne of God. 3Consider him who endured such opposition from sinful men, so that you will not grow weary and lose heart.
 
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I am sorry, scripture can be missinterpreted by many to lead those who follow GOD astray. We look at old testament Laws from the standpoint of children who do not wish to suffer for their wrong doing. We do not seek to look at them from our Heavenly Fathers view point. How does one escape the sentence/verdict/punishment of Murder? They do not murder. We concentrate on the punishment which is due and thnk we will escape another way. There is no way out except turning to GOD, repenting from sin and full devotion and obedience to HIM.

Ezekiel 34:11 For this i what the Sovereign Lord says; I myself will search for my sheep and look after them.

This was done through Christ Jesus, for Jesus always claimed that he came on behalf of the Father. The Jew first and then the Gentile. Read Isaiah 56

Now let us talk for a moment about the Holy Spirit. In the following scripture you will hopefully see why I said it was evil to say that keeping GOD's Laws and Commandments are work against the Grace offered through Christ Jesus.

Ezekiel 36:25-27 I will sprinkle clean water on you, and you will be clean; I will cleanse you from all your impurities and from all idols. I will give you a new heart and put a new spirit in you. I will remove from you your heart of stone, and give you a heart of flesh. And I will put my Spirit in you and move you to follow my decrees and be careful to keep my laws.

I am not saying I am innocent for GOD is still at work in me, but I am humbled enough before HIM to realize that it is HIS COMMANDS that lead to eternal life and CHRIST JESUS is our ticket there. All those who claim to know Christ Jesus and have the endwelling presence of the HOLY SPIRIT within them, if they hearken to it and not their own evil ways they will find ETERNITY. Delight in doing GOD's Commandments, keeping his laws and decrees, loving HIM enough to give up self and whole heartedly live for HIM are what we are to do.
 
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Matthew 12:30-32 "He who is not with me is against me, and he who does not gather with me scatters. And so I tell you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven men, but the blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven. Anyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but anyone who speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, either in this age or the one to come."
 
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Salvation is not on the installment plan, nor is it based on our works of obedience of the law. As a contrast, the quantity and quality of our personal relationship with Christ encompasses our entire lives and everything we do or don't do. Our living testimony for Him is a big part of our relationship with our Lord and Saviour.

Ephesians 2:8-9 (KJV) 8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: [it is] the gift of God: 9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.

We are not under the Law. If we were, we would not be able to keep it and would never be fit for Salvation. If Salvation was based on the Law, we would lose it with the first sin of many. The work of Salvation was completed perfectly by Jesus Christ on the Cross, and man has nothing worthy to add to that work. Any righteousness we have is imputed to us by Faith in Jesus Christ, so we have no righteousness of our own. Jesus Christ makes us fit for our Heavenly Inheritance - not ourselves. Jesus Christ has begun a good work in us and Promised that He will complete it. That completion will be a Glorified Body not of flesh and blood at God's Appointed Time.

I give thanks that we don't depend on ourselves or our works for Salvation because Salvation would then be impossible to obtain. Those who go about seeking their own righteousness fail to yield to the Righteousness of Christ and are under the Law that they can't keep. The Law of Faith in Jesus Christ sets us free from the curse of sin and death. Nothing hints that we should live sinful lives or live any way that we wish to. On the contrary, our Faith in Christ and love for Him should make us desire to please Him and have a rich daily relationship with Him. If we read our Bibles, we should know that He wants us to do good works out of love - not duty. Our good works will be judged for rewards that are over and beyond Salvation, but they won't be judged for Salvation.



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Interesting....had not thought Jesus had come to replace or abolish any laws. He, Himself said that in accordance to scripture. Rather, Jesus came to fulfill.

Matthew 5:17 (New International Version)The Fulfillment of the Law

17"Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them."
 
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Please read it in context. That verse does not say what you are intending to say. Begin in verse 22.
 
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what if you are not led by the spirit? then what?
 
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Galatians 5:22-23
22But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, 23gentleness and self-control. Against such things there is no law.


of course, you are keeping the law.

you don't steal from a person you love.

correct?
 
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why is Paul speaking of sinful men?

the bible definition of sin is

1Jn 3:4 Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.
 
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Galatians 3:7-9
7Understand, then, that those who believe are children of Abraham. 8The Scripture foresaw that God would justify the Gentiles by faith, and announced the gospel in advance to Abraham: "All nations will be blessed through you." 9So those who have faith are blessed along with Abraham, the man of faith.
 
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Gen 26:5 Because that Abraham obeyed my voice, and kept my charge, my commandments, my statutes, and my laws.
 
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Jesus saves, he is the one who saves.

By keeping the law, it will get you the chance of salvation which is Eternal life in the kingdom of God.

Mt 19:16 And, behold, one came and said unto him, Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life?
17: And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God:but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.
18: He saith unto him, Which? Jesus said, Thou shalt do no murder, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness,
19: Honour thy father and thy mother: and, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

eternal life and entering into life is the the same as salvation or being saved.

Jesus death is the remission of our past sins.

Rom 3:25 Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God;

once we come under the blood of Jesus
 
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The New covenant is the blood of Jesus.

The New covenant is the same as the old covenant except for the blood of Jesus replaced the blood of animals. Lets keep the wordof God simple and away from YOUR lack of understanding!

Let read

Heb 8v6: But now hath he obtained a more excellent ministry, by how much also he is the mediator of a better covenant, which was established upon better promises.
7: For if that first covenant had been faultless, then should no place have been sought for the second.

there was nothing wrong witht he first covenant, the fault was with the people not with God.

8: For finding fault with them, he saith, Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah:
9: Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day when I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt; because they continued not in my covenant, and I regarded them not, saith the Lord.
10: For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people:
11: And they shall not teach every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for all shall know me, from the least to the greatest.
12: For I will be merciful to their unrighteousness, and their sins and their iniquities will I remember no more.
13: In that he saith, A new covenant, he hath made the first old. Now that which decayeth and waxeth old is ready to vanish away.

what covenant was new that made the other old and vanish away?

when Jesus died on the cross the veil of the temple rent

Mt 27:51 And, behold, the veil of the temple was rent in twain from the top to the bottom; and the earth did quake, and the rocks rent;

ENDING ANIMAL SACRIFICE!!!

this is so simple to understand!



where do it say the law of Moses or the Law of Jesus is fulfiilled!

Nowhere

In short, the new covenant is the free gift of grace through faith in Jesus Christ. In other words, the good news of the gospel.


the New covenant is the same as the old. go back and read it.


Tell me brother, do you know what is included in the gospel that we are commanded to preach to the whole world?

I'll let Paul explain, he taught the gentiles what Jesus and the Prophets taught Israel.

Acts 24:14 But this I confess unto thee, that after the way which they call heresy, so worship I the God of my fathers, believing all things which are written in the law and in the prophets:

Acts 26:22 Having therefore obtained help of God, I continue unto this day, witnessing both to small and great, saying none other things than those which the prophets and Moses did say should come:

Acts 28:23 And when they had appointed him a day, there came many to him into his lodging; to whom he expounded and testified the kingdom of God, persuading them concerning Jesus, both out of the law of Moses, and out of the prophets, from morning till evenin

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people are still dying, because Rom 6:23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.

until Jesus return then all that are in him will receive eternal life, then at that time is death passed away. we have a chance at life though his blood by keeping his commandments.


Is Jesus God? The new covenant fulfilled the Mosaic law which means that it passed away. All 613 commandments of the Mosaic law passed away.

this is so wrong! thou shalt not steal is passed away, thou shalt not commit adultery is passed away, do you even know what makes up all 613 laws, have of them is the rituals of animal sacrifice.

I don't see the relevance of the earthly material used by God to write His commandments to the Jews.

what are these earthly material you speak of?


Sure did. God gave the Jews the law, therefore, the law is indeed holy and perfect. Do you know what the purpose of the law was?


now you contradict youreself, if its holy and Good how can it be fulfilled?
what was the purpose?


here is the one reason that you and this denomination Catholic, Orthodox and Protestant teaching/doctrine are flawed

listen to Paul here

Rom 3v1: What advantage then hath the Jew? or what profit is there of circumcision?
2: Much every way: chiefly, because that unto them were committed the oracles of God.

Israel has the Answers of God

Rom 9v1: I say the truth in Christ, I lie not, my conscience also bearing me witness in the Holy Ghost,
2: That I have great heaviness and continual sorrow in my heart.
3: For I could wish that myself were accursed from Christ for my brethren, my kinsmen according to the flesh:
4: Who are Israelites; to whom pertaineth the adoption, and the glory, and the covenants, and the giving of the law, and the service of God, and the promises;

it is a matter of fact that the Israelites have everything that belong to God.

Now where did you get this stuff you are teaching, surely it came not from God, nor out of his word or from his people.
 
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No!

because it is written all men have sinned

Rom 3:23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;

but those Jews or Israel who had understanding, knew this

1Jn 2:1 My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:

so when we read Hebrews 11 we know that the obtained a good report
and will get eternal life or perfection at the time appointed.

yet we know all men have sinned, even these here, yet their report details these ISRALEITES, NOTICE ISRAELITES will get perfection.

Heb11v 32: And what shall I more say? for the time would fail me to tell of Gedeon, and of Barak, and of Samson, and of Jephthae; of David also, and Samuel, and of the prophets:
33: Who through faith subdued kingdoms, wrought righteousness, obtained promises, stopped the mouths of lions,
34: Quenched the violence of fire, escaped the edge of the sword, out of weakness were made strong, waxed valiant in fight, turned to flight the armies of the aliens.
35: Women received their dead raised to life again: and others were tortured, not accepting deliverance; that they might obtain a better resurrection:
36: And others had trial of cruel mockings and scourgings, yea, moreover of bonds and imprisonment:
37: They were stoned, they were sawn asunder, were tempted, were slain with the sword: they wandered about in sheepskins and goatskins; being destitute, afflicted, tormented;
38: (Of whom the world was not worthy they wandered in deserts, and in mountains, and in dens and caves of the earth.
39: And these all, having obtained a good report through faith, received not the promise:
40: God having provided some better thing for us, that they without us should not be made perfect.
 
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From the verse that you quoted, which covenant includes the promise of the Holy Spirit? Which commandments were given to the Apostles?

what commandments do you know in the bible? Don't play ignorant Now!



I gave them to you? except what you read.

Long after Jesus death and resurrection Paul taught the gentiles the sabbath day, you read it.

Now Paul taught the gentiles only what was written in the OLD TESTAMENT from the books of Moses and the Prophets.

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Acts 28:23 And when they had appointed him a day, there came many to him into his lodging; to whom he expounded and testified the kingdom of God, persuading them concerning Jesus, both out of the law of Moses, and out of the prophets, from morning till evening.

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Acts 26:22 Having therefore obtained help of God, I continue unto this day, witnessing both to small and great, saying none other things than those which the prophets and Moses did say should come:

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Acts 24:14 But this I confess unto thee, that after the way which they call heresy, so worship I the God of my fathers, believing all things which are written in the law and in the prophets:

AGAIN

Paul taught from the books of MOSES AND THE PROPHETS!!

the law!!!!
 
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long after Jesus resurrection the New Covenant firmly in place the Aspostle Paul taught the Gentiles to keep the sabbath!!!
Can you please cite biblical evidence to support your statement?


sure

Mt 27v46: And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is to say, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?
47: Some of them that stood there, when they heard that, said, This man calleth for Elias.
48: And straightway one of them ran, and took a spunge, and filled it with vinegar, and put it on a reed, and gave him to drink.
49: The rest said, Let be, let us see whether Elias will come to save him.
50: Jesus, when he had cried again with a loud voice, yielded up the ghost.

51 And, behold, the veil of the temple was rent in twain from the top to the bottom; and the earth did quake, and the rocks rent;

Now you answer me this when that veil rent in the temple what did it signify?



 
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