What is it that keeps a believer saved? What kept a believer saved in the Old Testament?
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What keeps believers saved?
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OK, I know that you have to put your faith in Christ to be saved but is it that faith that keeps you saved? I'm inclined to agree more with the Jesus answer but I want to hear more opinions. So since it's faith that keeps you saved, can you lose that salvation? How about in the Old Testament. Could they lose their salvation?
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FaithAlone said:
1 Pet 1:3-5
Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who according to His abundant mercy has begotten us again to a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead, to an inheritance incorruptible and undefiled and that does not fade away, reserved in heaven for you, who are kept by the power of God through faith for salvation ready to be revealed in the last time.
Our place in the family of God is secured by none other than God Himself. For us to lose our status as sons/daughters of God, God would have to cease being pleased in the sacrifice of His only begotten Son.
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Faith is complete trust in God and that gets you to heaven.
2 Corinthians 5:17
Anyone who is in Christ is a new creation, the old things have passed away and the new has come.
After salvation we are still the same person and in order to change we need to feed on the word and learn to let go of worldly views and start living in the world in a Christian way. The hardest thing for me was surrendering my prideful will to serve the will of Jesus and thus be sanctified or completely obedient to Jesus. We all sin every day but we have to repent and try not to do it again. We tend to sin on the same things over and over but through perseverance we can start to reduce certain sinful desires.
Romans 12:1-2
Therefore I urge you brothers to offer your bodies as living sacrifices, holy and pleasing to God for this is your spiritual act of worship. Do not conform any longer to the patterns of this world but be transformed by the renewing of our mind, then you will be able to test and approve of God's will, his good, pleasing, perfect will.
We have to sacrifice our lives and become obedienct to the will of Jesus. Christianity isn't about a 50/50 relationship with God. We don't change overnight but we need to try and change day by day and feed on the word. It took me 3 years before I got into the word of God and it was difficult at first. At first I only changed my actions but we need to renew our minds to think righteously like Christ. He knows what is best for us and it is best to do his will instead of our own.
Good Luck in your walk and May God Bless you in your daily walk.
2 Corinthians 5:17
Anyone who is in Christ is a new creation, the old things have passed away and the new has come.
After salvation we are still the same person and in order to change we need to feed on the word and learn to let go of worldly views and start living in the world in a Christian way. The hardest thing for me was surrendering my prideful will to serve the will of Jesus and thus be sanctified or completely obedient to Jesus. We all sin every day but we have to repent and try not to do it again. We tend to sin on the same things over and over but through perseverance we can start to reduce certain sinful desires.
Romans 12:1-2
Therefore I urge you brothers to offer your bodies as living sacrifices, holy and pleasing to God for this is your spiritual act of worship. Do not conform any longer to the patterns of this world but be transformed by the renewing of our mind, then you will be able to test and approve of God's will, his good, pleasing, perfect will.
We have to sacrifice our lives and become obedienct to the will of Jesus. Christianity isn't about a 50/50 relationship with God. We don't change overnight but we need to try and change day by day and feed on the word. It took me 3 years before I got into the word of God and it was difficult at first. At first I only changed my actions but we need to renew our minds to think righteously like Christ. He knows what is best for us and it is best to do his will instead of our own.
Good Luck in your walk and May God Bless you in your daily walk.
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FaithAlone said:
When God makes us His child we are sealed by the indwelling of the Holy Spirit. It is a sign of His love for us that we are united with Him in such a way that ensures us that we will forevermore be His own, for a house cannot stand that is divided against itself. In this way we can know that the Lord God will never be against us.
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Faith saves us! As Ephesians 2:8-10 says, "For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith - and this not from yourselves, it is the gift of God - not by works, so that no one can boast. For we are God's workmanship, created in Christ Jesus to do good works, which God prepared in advance for us to do."
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Quickened said:Faith saves us! As Ephesians 2:8-10 says, "For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith - and this not from yourselves, it is the gift of God - not by works, so that no one can boast. For we are God's workmanship, created in Christ Jesus to do good works, which God prepared in advance for us to do."
While I agree that faith is an integral part of the believer's life, the verse you quote doesn't say that we are saved by faith. It says "it is by grace you have been saved..."
Wouldn't you say that it is more accurate to acknowledge that faith is the vehicle through which God delivers unto us His grace which saves? Or do you see it differently?
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If we are just saved by faith, then why aren't the demons saved? They admitted Christ was the Son of God, the Holy One, and they believe in one God. Yet demons are damned because they refuse to follow Christ.
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I didn't mean anything like that. That's not faith, that's intellectual agreement. Anyone could say that they believe that Jesus is God. But is that really enough?
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Quickened said:
I'm just asking whether you believe it is the grace of God that saves us or our faith that saves us. I ask because you said that faith saves us and then proceeded to cite a verse that says that it is the grace of God that saves us.
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Quickened said:
Saving faith is comprised of three equally essential elements. Notitia, knowledge of the content of the Gospel. Assensus, agreement that the content of the Gospel is true. And, Fiducia, a personal trust in what you know to be the truth of the Gospel.
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