What its like after death

Kiritsugu Emiyah said:

I know that Christians believe in a heaven and hell and they might also feel like there needs to be something after we die... how could we simply stop existing? What would not existing be like?

I have begun to think that after I die I will go back to the way I was before I was born. That is to say that the way I was before being born is the way I will be after I die. This makes not existing understandable to me. This makes it easier for me to comprehend what I think not existing means.

How do you guys feel about the idea that we don't really need and afterlife, there doesn't have to be anything, we don't need to continue existing because we didn't need these things before we were born either?

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Kiritsugu Emiyah said:

I know that Christians believe in a heaven and hell and they might also feel like there needs to be something after we die... how could we simply stop existing? What would not existing be like?

I have begun to think that after I die I will go back to the way I was before I was born. That is to say that the way I was before being born is the way I will be after I die. This makes not existing understandable to me. This makes it easier for me to comprehend what I think not existing means.

How do you guys feel about the idea that we don't really need and afterlife, there doesn't have to be anything, we don't need to continue existing because we didn't need these things before we were born either?

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Kiritsugu Emiyah said:

Because that's hard to comprehend untill you compare it to before you were born.

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Kiritsugu Emiyah said:

I know that Christians believe in a heaven and hell and they might also feel like there needs to be something after we die... how could we simply stop existing? What would not existing be like?

I have begun to think that after I die I will go back to the way I was before I was born. That is to say that the way I was before being born is the way I will be after I die. This makes not existing understandable to me. This makes it easier for me to comprehend what I think not existing means.

How do you guys feel about the idea that we don't really need and afterlife, there doesn't have to be anything, we don't need to continue existing because we didn't need these things before we were born either?

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Joshua260 said:

It's irrelevant to me. I did not become a believer because I felt there needed to be something after we die, but rather because of the numerous philosophical arguments for the existence of God and because of the numerous Christian evidences.

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Kiritsugu Emiyah said:

I wasn't questioning it's existence.

I was asking how if thinking about how we were before we were born means anything to you concerning our existence after we are dead.

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Kiritsugu Emiyah said:

Joshua

You really don't need to keep telling me how reasonable and true your beliefs are... I didn't challenge them.

Thanks for responding.

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Joshua260 said:

I was explaining why your question is irrelevant to me. If you ask a question, I would assume that you would want an answer. Why do you criticize me for responding honestly and accurately?

I'd like to also point out that *you* made the remark that prompted the way I responded and made the explanation necessary.
You said:
"I know that Christians believe in a heaven and hell and they might also feel like there *needs to be something after we die*... "

So that's why I was answering in the way I did. I never felt like there needed to be something after I die. Many atheists make comments like this and assume that's why Christians become Christians. Maybe that's he case for some, but it was not so in my case.

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Kiritsugu Emiyah said:

You provided your answer more than once and both times you felt like you needed to tell how true your ideas are...

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Kiritsugu Emiyah said:

I know that Christians believe in a heaven and hell and they might also feel like there needs to be something after we die... how could we simply stop existing? What would not existing be like?

I have begun to think that after I die I will go back to the way I was before I was born. That is to say that the way I was before being born is the way I will be after I die. This makes not existing understandable to me. This makes it easier for me to comprehend what I think not existing means.

How do you guys feel about the idea that we don't really need and afterlife, there doesn't have to be anything, we don't need to continue existing because we didn't need these things before we were born either?

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Kiritsugu Emiyah said:

I know that Christians believe in a heaven and hell and they might also feel like there needs to be something after we die... how could we simply stop existing? What would not existing be like?

I have begun to think that after I die I will go back to the way I was before I was born. That is to say that the way I was before being born is the way I will be after I die. This makes not existing understandable to me. This makes it easier for me to comprehend what I think not existing means.

How do you guys feel about the idea that we don't really need and afterlife, there doesn't have to be anything, we don't need to continue existing because we didn't need these things before we were born either?

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drich0150 said:

Just because you can't remember anything before this life, does it mean nothing could have existed for you? Like wise just because your current understanding of life ends with death it impossible for consciencous to carry on after?

Proof?

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ViaCrucis said:

I don't know that it's that difficult to conceive of something not existing. We live in a world where things come into existence and then no longer exist quite regularly. My sandwich didn't exist until I made it, after I ate it it no longer exists.

As far as the idea of the "afterlife" goes I prefer the way N.T. Wright puts it, Scripture--and by extension Christianity--isn't concerned with life after death and doesn't have much to say about it at all, instead it is far more interested in life after life after death.

The fact of the matter is that if one reads through the Bible one will very quickly notice that at no point is there "going to Heaven when you die" statement. The closest Scripture ever gets is to say that to be absent from the body to be present with the Lord. And in the Apocalypse the saints and martyrs are portrayed as being before God's throne. Instead Scripture is far more interested in not what happens after we die, but in the ultimate state of creation--that the creation will be made new, restored, set to rights, and that means not "going to Heaven" but being raised, bodily, from the dead.

If one looks at what the Church has historically taught, especially in the Creeds, consistently the emphasis is on the resurrection of the dead and everlasting life in the age to come. It is not zipping up into an ethereal plane called "Heaven" but the renewal and restoration of all things, and God setting our world to rights.

It is for this reason Christ came into the world, was crucified, buried, and dead, and was raised up, ascended, and coming again. That is, this is the point of the Gospel, the point of the Christian religion. That God is, in and through Jesus, setting things right.

-CryptoLutheran

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ViaCrucis said:

I don't know that it's that difficult to conceive of something not existing. We live in a world where things come into existence and then no longer exist quite regularly. My sandwich didn't exist until I made it, after I ate it it no longer exists.

As far as the idea of the "afterlife" goes I prefer the way N.T. Wright puts it, Scripture--and by extension Christianity--isn't concerned with life after death and doesn't have much to say about it at all, instead it is far more interested in life after life after death.

The fact of the matter is that if one reads through the Bible one will very quickly notice that at no point is there "going to Heaven when you die" statement. The closest Scripture ever gets is to say that to be absent from the body to be present with the Lord. And in the Apocalypse the saints and martyrs are portrayed as being before God's throne. Instead Scripture is far more interested in not what happens after we die, but in the ultimate state of creation--that the creation will be made new, restored, set to rights, and that means not "going to Heaven" but being raised, bodily, from the dead.

If one looks at what the Church has historically taught, especially in the Creeds, consistently the emphasis is on the resurrection of the dead and everlasting life in the age to come. It is not zipping up into an ethereal plane called "Heaven" but the renewal and restoration of all things, and God setting our world to rights.

It is for this reason Christ came into the world, was crucified, buried, and dead, and was raised up, ascended, and coming again. That is, this is the point of the Gospel, the point of the Christian religion. That God is, in and through Jesus, setting things right.

-CryptoLutheran

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