What is wrong with say... (ex) black lip stick?

[PaxThroughX]

So the other day I was in a church service. One of the things the pastor was talking about was that he cant go to the mall by himself, he rather bring his wife with him then go alone. The point he was trying to make was that this world is going to keep getting worse and we must put out trust in G-d so that we may not be caught in all the mess. Well what he said in reference to that (which scared him I guess?) was the "black lip stick, and just the kids there and the same sex holding hands etc." Ok I understand very clearly about same sex marriage, for its against G-d. However, what is so bad about black lip stick? What makes red lip stick less or no sin-convicting to a "Christian," I would say?

 

[Girder of Loins]

I would imagine he is stereotyping people who wear black lipstick. I don't think he is saying "black lipstick=sin", but that you know the crowd with black lipstick is the crowd you don't want to be around.

 

[PaxThroughX]

I would imagine he is stereotyping people who wear black lipstick. I don't think he is saying "black lipstick=sin", but that you know the crowd with black lipstick is the crowd you don't want to be around.

Yes but whats so bad about and I am going to say what he is talking about, goths? Emos, metalheads, scene... Whats so bad about these groups of people? What makes a aero football player any better? I dont understand, it doesn't make sense to me. Maybe because I am among the group.

 

[Girder of Loins]

From the outside, the goth and metalhead group tend to seem "dark" to people, and this apparent "darkness" is then grouped subconsciously with other things the person thinks is "dark" such as drugs, alcohol, sex, et cetera. This leads the person to subconsciously(or consciously) attribute these things to all people in the goth and metalhead groups, even if they don't actually belong. Mostly, it is the human brain trying to organize and categorize peoples, ideas, and things, and stereotyping takes place. It isn't always intentional, but the results tend to be the same.

 

[PaxThroughX]

From the outside, the goth and metalhead group tend to seem "dark" to people, and this apparent "darkness" is then grouped subconsciously with other things the person thinks is "dark" such as drugs, alcohol, sex, et cetera. This leads the person to subconsciously(or consciously) attribute these things to all people in the goth and metalhead groups, even if they don't actually belong. Mostly, it is the human brain trying to organize and categorize peoples, ideas, and things, and stereotyping takes place. It isn't always intentional, but the results tend to be the same.

Ahaha. I get it because we all know when we say dark that makes the color black evil. I get where these people are coming from but it is not welcoming to "the groups," when judgement is already been placed.

 

[loverules]

I understand what you are both saying. I get judged ALOT simply based on the way i dress, let alone my make up (which i have recently dulled down a bit.)
I once had an old woman look at me on the opposite side of the road and when i looked back at her she started walking faster as if she was scared, i will admit it was kind of funny haha but all i did was smile back.

I think people think of what media and "past history" has made them out to be. But people should know better not to Judge by appearances and all the old woman at the church u went to prejudged me, but when they got to know me they said i was the "sweetest little girl" they had met.

so now i just think "treat people as you want to be treated" and carry on with my busynes

and as for the black lipstick, it can be creepy if not worn properly as the other week i found out both red and black lipstick make me look like i am about to drop dead but i can see the point on black lipstick being sin

God bless u bowfs

Kirsty x

 

[HarborOrange]

So the other day I was in a church service. One of the things the pastor was talking about was that he cant go to the mall by himself, he rather bring his wife with him then go alone. The point he was trying to make was that this world is going to keep getting worse and we must put out trust in G-d so that we may not be caught in all the mess. Well what he said in reference to that (which scared him I guess?) was the "black lip stick, and just the kids there and the same sex holding hands etc." Ok I understand very clearly about same sex marriage, for its against G-d. However, what is so bad about black lip stick? What makes red lip stick less or no sin-convicting to a "Christian," I would say?

He's just stereotyping and making broad, uneducated, generalizations. When I tell people I listen to metal and hardcore, they automatically assume I'm some devil-worshiper or something hahaha. But at the same time, I'll just as often listen to classical music or ambient. So really, stereotypes just flat out are flawed all around.

There is nothing inherently wrong with any sub-culture of people, unless they divert from the good path and start becoming morally deviant in an area (sexual deviance/defiance, drugs, alcohol, violence, etc.).

However, he was probably just trying to make a point innocently and wasn't inferring that someone was evil just because of black lipstick.

...by the way, I'll get back to your PM soon. I've been working on getting set up for the next semester so I've been too busy to log onto the forums lol.

 

[PaxThroughX]

I understand what you are both saying. I get judged ALOT simply based on the way i dress, let alone my make up (which i have recently dulled down a bit.)
I once had an old woman look at me on the opposite side of the road and when i looked back at her she started walking faster as if she was scared, i will admit it was kind of funny haha but all i did was smile back.

I think people think of what media and "past history" has made them out to be. But people should know better not to Judge by appearances and all the old woman at the church u went to prejudged me, but when they got to know me they said i was the "sweetest little girl" they had met.

so now i just think "treat people as you want to be treated" and carry on with my busynes

and as for the black lipstick, it can be creepy if not worn properly as the other week i found out both red and black lipstick make me look like i am about to drop dead but i can see the point on black lipstick being sin

God bless u bowfs

Kirsty x

May he bless you too. I must say i found it funny when people are scared of me.

 

[PaxThroughX]

He's just stereotyping and making broad, uneducated, generalizations. When I tell people I listen to metal and hardcore, they automatically assume I'm some devil-worshiper or something hahaha. But at the same time, I'll just as often listen to classical music or ambient. So really, stereotypes just flat out are flawed all around.

There is nothing inherently wrong with any sub-culture of people, unless they divert from the good path and start becoming morally deviant in an area (sexual deviance/defiance, drugs, alcohol, violence, etc.).

However, he was probably just trying to make a point innocently and wasn't inferring that someone was evil just because of black lipstick.

...by the way, I'll get back to your PM soon. I've been working on getting set up for the next semester so I've been too busy to log onto the forums lol.

I understand what your saying. I can't believe all the metal people i talk to have commented on this thread. Thank you all Ya the general sterotype gets annoying, but thats society.

Alright dude no worries.

 

[loverules]

May he bless you too. I must say i found it funny when people are scared of me.

i find it funny but then i feel bad for the old little peoples i wanna hug em and say sorry but then i think i would probably end up giving them a heart attack
but once people get to know me im really depressing and moody (to my parents) or bubbly and sweet(to old peoples) x

 

[NateDaGrimes]

sad, people are never fraid of me.. i guess thats why i dont go out much, all i do is ball.
and kirsty thats how i feel when im doing school xD

 

[PaxThroughX]

i find it funny but then i feel bad for the old little peoples i wanna hug em and say sorry but then i think i would probably end up giving them a heart attack
but once people get to know me im really depressing and moody (to my parents) or bubbly and sweet(to old peoples) x

Yeah lol. Well hey honor yee parents XD. I think old people are wise to talk to concerning life. You can found out interesting things that happened in like the 60's. Although I must say 60's and 70's where a werid um "clothing" period.

 

[PaxThroughX]

sad, people are never fraid of me.. i guess thats why i dont go out much, all i do is ball.
and kirsty thats how i feel when im doing school xD

You don't go out much? Does that mean you made that homeschool group? *coughs* XD

 

[NateDaGrimes]

yes i have, but i go out much with sports.. thats bout it.

 

[PaxThroughX]

yes i have, but i go out much with sports.. thats bout it.

We are of topic, but who cares its my thread! I saw the group and joined. I was just messin. What do you play?

 

[NateDaGrimes]

basketball. im good defencively on the court, when im feeling it, ill rain threes all day =P

 

[PaxThroughX]

basketball. im good defencively on the court, when im feeling it, ill rain threes all day =P

Legit dude. You have to show how to play good.

 

[loverules]

Yeah lol. Well hey honor yee parents XD. I think old people are wise to talk to concerning life. You can found out interesting things that happened in like the 60's. Although I must say 60's and 70's where a werid um "clothing" period.

yeah but it is kind of annoying when they tell u the same thing over and over and over again, even when u repeat it back to em, they still carry it on but hey atleast my mom and dad dont stop me...well...much hahaha x

 

[PaxThroughX]

yeah but it is kind of annoying when they tell u the same thing over and over and over again, even when u repeat it back to em, they still carry it on

For some reason I dont have that problem. Are you talking to WWII veterans or something?

but hey atleast my mom and dad dont stop me...well...much hahaha

I am not sure what you are referring to? Are you talking about clothing?

x

I am curious in the use of the letter you use a lot. Do you mean "x" as in a holy kiss with brother and sisters in Christ or the originally mean of X= Christ? Then again what I just said is basically the same principle so ya pointless questions....

 

[loverules]

For some reason I dont have that problem. Are you talking to WWII veterans or something?




I am not sure what you are referring to? Are you talking about clothing?



I am curious in the use of the letter you use a lot. Do you mean "x" as in a holy kiss with brother and sisters in Christ or the originally mean of X= Christ? Then again what I just said is basically the same principle so ya pointless questions....

no i talk to regular old people,..u know..the ones that smell like soap and think they know everything?

and yeah i mean clothing, make-up ect and i just put X as like a "signature" but i oringinally used it as a brotherly and sisterly kiss, so now worries x