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What is wrong with Dawkins?

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SiderealExalt

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Exactly what I think. So it's not just you? I did not expect The God Delusion to be some sort of super comprehensive look at all off the information available on the subject of the book, but more as almost a series of essays of his on the subject. I didn't find his arguments to be based on strawmen. Particularly because many of them have been covered at length about a billion other times before and did not expect any thing much different except his own take on the subject.
Dawkins' problem is that he is laboring under the delusion that most Christians don't believe in science, specifically evolutionary biology, when in fact the majority of Christians do believe in science, specifically evolutionary biology.

I would suspect he doesn't labor under that delusion. I would suspect he and others "labor" under the opinion that Christians and others continue to have certain religious beliefs DESPITE being aware of different aspects of science.
 
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I should have stuck to my initial plan of not bothering with you anymore. Half of the mental refuse you're spewing at me and stamping with a 'reason' label is just more biased, arrogant, ignorant, unreasonable garbage.

I'm going to admit that there is simply no getting through to you. I would attempt continue with you but it appears that you want to resort to your little "0x0=atheism" rhetoric, which means nothing to anyone but you.

I will, however, answer the question of "who? Part two" because it was the only honest and reasonable section of text in your entire post. ...Even though you had not asked previously.

The biblical authorities, regarding the bible answering everything, which I refer to are:

Integrative Psychotherapy By Mark R. McMinn and Clark D. Campbell

godgoverns.org

gospelcom.net

deanandjill.com

dtm.org

Christianity and the Secular By Robert A. Markus

and even though I can't verify it for you; my former pastor and youth pastor made mention of the ideal along those lines. I can't prove that to you of course, but I know what I was told.

That said, I'm done with you. I know that no amount of argumentation will ever change a persons mind but, the hope is that when the appropriate conditions are present, one will see potential for other possibilities and make the choice for themselves.

Anyhow, best of luck to you. Maybe you'll get into an academic institution one day and be able to teach your 0x0 theory (I mean truth) to a class... haha!
 
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Dunno... how would you explain:

The Crusades.
The Inquisition.
The Reformation conflicts.
Pogroms

etc...

And to add...as some of the Christians here are so fond of reminding us. Christianity is about more than it's nicey nice, Care Bear parts.
 
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Dunno... how would you explain:

The Crusades.
The Inquisition.
The Reformation conflicts.
Pogroms

etc...

Rehashing the old old days makes "you guys" look rather, well, rote. Why not blame european history on european history? The history of european peoples is war, war, and more war. Guess what they did when they got hold of atheism and darwinism? Eugenics and killing fields sound familar?

Oops, the killing fields was atheism SE Asian style.

More people were killed in one year by avowed atheists in the 20th century than in all of the atrocities ever commited when Christendom was used to rule kingdoms. We could probably break that down to days or even an afternoon.

How man children were just slaughtered today in abortions mills in westernized nations?

Natural selection anyone?

Muurder is violating Christian doctrine.

Killing the weak is Darwinian theory put into practice.
 
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I should have stuck to my initial plan of not bothering with you anymore. Half of the mental refuse you're spewing at me and stamping with a 'reason' label is just more biased, arrogant, ignorant, unreasonable garbage.


Wow, what a long list of a few websites and a couple of books.

Bye.
 
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Killing the weak is Darwinian theory put into practice.
That is a giant load of fecal matter. Evolution does not state anything about killing the weak, instead survival of the fittest refers to species or subspecies level where either that species is strong enough to adapt or it is not.
 
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That is a giant load of fecal matter. Evolution does not state anything about killing the weak, instead survival of the fittest refers to species or subspecies level where either that species is strong enough to adapt or it is not.

Or put another way:

Killing the weak is Darwinian theory put into practice.
 
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Muurder is violating Christian doctrine.
As SoF and Henaynei have so kindly pointed out, murder is wrong but killing is not.

So, Christians can "kill," they just can't "murder."

Killing the weak is Darwinian theory put into practice.
Uh, no, because that would be artifical. Darwin talked about "natural" selection.

I mean, geeze. I'm not a huge fan of Dawkins, but you make him look like Saint Francis of Asis.
 
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As SoF and Henaynei have so kindly pointed out, murder is wrong but killing is not.

Darwinian morality.

So, Christians can "kill," they just can't "murder."

Where in scripture does it say that? Apostolic truth is what guides "Christians."

Uh, no, because that would be artifical. Darwin talked about "natural" selection.

Death instead of murder. Humans don't like either, unless they are on the giving end.

I mean, geeze. I'm not a huge fan of Dawkins, but you make him look like Saint Francis of Asis.

Dawkins stands firmly on Darwin as his guide to his path.

www.dawkinslennoxdebate.com
 
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Religion effects all of us, and I think Dawkins does a good job of attacking it.
Dawkins "attacking" Christianity (but never religion in geneeral) sounds like it gets your seal of approval. THis is consistent with Romans 1, where we read:
"Who, knowing the righteous judgment of God, that those who practice such things are deserving of death, not only do the same but also approve of those who practice them."

Also, Richard Dawkins attacking religion has all the subtlety, wit and finesse of a juvinile delinquent breaking into a mansion with a sledgehammer.
 
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Fun little metaphors aside; Dawkins focuses specifically on Christianity because it is the major religion of the west. It is a very prevalent force in our society. Do you think people in Saudi Arabia who have the courage to criticize religion spend their time criticizing Christianity or... Shinto?

Also, are you advocating putting people to death?
 
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You give the excuse that Dawkins attacks Christianity because of Christianity's popularity. If this is true, shouldn't the God Delusion have been titled Atheists Against Popular Religions, or something to the effect?
 
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