What is True?

Cleany · Feb 9, 2006

truth is only relative to the system that houses it and the purpose of truth is the communication of those systems with the "truth" as the trojan horse.

there needs to be some vague understanding of the new system, or similarity with a known system for the "truth" to even make sense, for there to be a starting point. you could conclude that ...

jesus is the truth of god whos reality, of which ours is a feint shadow, he wants us to know.

Mocca · Feb 9, 2006

Cleany said:
truth is only relative to the system that houses it and the purpose of truth is the communication of those systems with the "truth" as the trojan horse.

(Emphasis placed by me)
About the bolded part... says who?

Mocca · Feb 9, 2006

Can we conclude that truth can exist in logic and metaphysics?

Cleany · Feb 10, 2006

Mocca said:
(Emphasis placed by me)
About the bolded part... says who?

says me m8

levi501 · Feb 10, 2006

I don't see how 1+1=2 isn't an absolute truth.

If there is an all powerful God can he make 1+1=3... No.
If this takes away his all-powerful status then "cool".

Mocca · Feb 10, 2006

Rofl. After more thought, absolute truth can exist if the truth of certain axioms is assumed. Hmm?

Forest · Feb 10, 2006

Edx said:
You are playing word games, like asking if its possible if God could make a rock so heavy he couldnt lift it.

Look its quite simple, really. Even if what we believe is correct, that doesnt mean we can know with absolute certitude that it is correct. How could we? Even hypothetically? As long as there are other possibilities, no matter how improbable, we can never know absolutely if what we think we know is 100% absolutely correct. And since there is no way we cant be sure we're not all just in The Matrix or some kind of Zen Dream where nothing is real, possibilities will always remain.

This is exactly why science calls fields of study "theory".

You are actually saying that we can be absolutely sure about one thing and that one thing is that we can never be absolutely sure about anything.

Kind of like saying you should never say never.

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