Starting today August 7th, 2024, in order to post in the Married Couples, Courting Couples, or Singles forums, you will not be allowed to post if you have your Marital status designated as private. Announcements will be made in the respective forums as well but please note that if yours is currently listed as Private, you will need to submit a ticket in the Support Area to have yours changed.
I'd need some scripture that you are saved by uniting your will to God's.But the way to salvation is in uniting your will to God's.
What if a person wants to have their own free will and not give it up?
I really like this post!The purpose of hell is to confine and punish those who lead and follow in the kingdom of darkness.
It was created, as such, in order to confine and punish the Evil One and his demonic minions. It is the greatest tragedy in the whole universe of being that men and women, forged in the image of God, have chosen to ally with that kingdom and so walk into that terrible place as well.
I'd need some scripture that you are saved by uniting your will to God's.
I would also say Hell is a choice. We choose to accept the life rope or we choose rebellion and hell... then many try to blame God for their own decision and accuse Him of injustice
So you believe that we are saved by our actions? What of the sovereignty of God?A reasonable argument could be made for it, I think (not saying this is what I believe, just speaking hypothetically). Scripture says that God wishes for us to be saved, so if we choose a course of action that leads to our salvation, we are in a sense united with God's will. Our desires and aspirations for ourselves become His desires and aspirations for us.
If I may, a non-believing friend of mine actually said that if Jesus stood before her and asked her to follow him, she would be unable to agree to because of Christians like Falwell, Robertson, et al. She would refuse to spend eternity with them. Sadly, she believes that hell is going to be "party central".Question: Do you think that people who reject God would choose any differently if the choice were made more explicit (i.e. God actually appears before them and gives them the ultimatum directly)?
That isn't Faith tho is it?Question: Do you think that people who reject God would choose any differently if the choice were made more explicit (i.e. God actually appears before them and gives them the ultimatum directly)?
Thats a very good question GuKKorQuestion: Do you think that people who reject God would choose any differently if the choice were made more explicit (i.e. God actually appears before them and gives them the ultimatum directly)?
So you believe that we are saved by our actions? What of the sovereignty of God?
I think the issue of bending wills is deffanately part of being a christian. But that said I don't think it is a salvation issue becaus we do not start to change by the Holy spirit until after we are alrady saved.
We must die to our old self and put on the new etc. read romans 6.
Also, so I am not off topic, I have heard that Hell is a place of tottal seperation from God. The problem with this is that if God was not in Hell he would not be omnipresent. So a friend of mine explained to me that hell is where God puts all of the harsh things of his personality Judgement, Anger etc. I hope that helps.
Actually the psalmist, speaking of the onmipresence of God, also said "if i make my bed in Hell, thou art there"Interesting. Where God goes to vent, essentially. I've never heard a view like that, thank you.
I just finished watching a series on Word Pictures on The Sovereignty of God. I have to admit that I was pretty impressed by what I saw and heard.No, I don't necessarily believe that. I was merely pointing out that a reasonable case for such a view could be made. In this particular case, though, I would think it wouldn't be the actions themselves that save, but rather what those actions lead to, that is, union with the will of God.
think of it as being conformed to the image of Christ.. you become conformed to Christ by submitting as you say.. but the ultimate goal is that you come to desire what he desires, to love what he loves etc.. thus your will becomes united to his will.What scripture says unite your will to God's?
We are to humble ourselves bowing to His will, i see nothing about uniting wills lol. Do we too become God by uniting wills with God? Does God meet us halfway in this uniting or what?
I know what youre likely trying to say, its just said very poorly imho
Uniting wills with God doesnt save you... believing Christ and repenting saves you
ultimately no.Question: Do you think that people who reject God would choose any differently if the choice were made more explicit (i.e. God actually appears before them and gives them the ultimatum directly)?
We use cookies and similar technologies for the following purposes:
Do you accept cookies and these technologies?
We use cookies and similar technologies for the following purposes:
Do you accept cookies and these technologies?