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You say that as if it is the goal of the theory of evolution to destroy theism, which is simply not the case.Since Darwin, only about 10% of the world population are atheists. Even after TOE is forced down our children's throats in schools and practically all universities have turned away from their origins as Christian based, ya'll still have your measly 10% of ungodly people. Faith in God is strong and you are the minority.
I've been a seeker for 9 years. I assure you, pride is not the problem, considering that my personal vices are much more along the lines of wrath and sloth.Your arrogance and pride will keep you away from God.
This may be your final warning!
My primary statement was that Agnostics have come for the conclusion that God is not knowable and that is what I backed up with Webster's definition.What you said was,
"They want to take a less provocative and extreme position, to appear on the fence, balanced but in between somewhere - which is nowhere. "
Is that in Webster's too? That agnostiocs take the position they do because of the appearance they want to give to others?
No, like your grandpappi the Ape.You mean like Christianity and Hinduism?
It is an opposing view, it began that way and continues to be destructive - no worries though, it is futile and incapable of thwarting God plan for His elect.You say that as if it is the goal of the theory of evolution to destroy theism, which is simply not the case.
I've been a seeker for 9 years. I assure you, pride is not the problem, considering that my personal vices are much more along the lines of wrath and sloth.
Then why do evolutionists arc & spark when someone brings up some wild apes that do something natural like columbine concertgoers?You may intend that as an insult, I view it as a compliment. Thank you.
-_- my lack of belief in deities is not due to some perceived lack of need for a deity in my life or demanding control over my life. It is due to the lack of evidence that deities exist, no more and no less.It is an opposing view, it began that way and continues to be destructive - no worries though, it is futile and incapable of thwarting God plan for His elect.
It is not the kind of pride you may associate among people, it is the pride that you think you are the director of your destiny, while sitting on your own throne rejecting any authority above you, refusing to submit yourself to a Supreme Being. Pride is in essence saying, I don't need a God to run my life, I'm in charge.
It was the same sarcasm that you used referring to Christianity as a myth. Christianity is a fact whether you believe it or not, it exists. Even Hinduism is a real religion. Belief in God is a reality, not myth.You may intend that as an insult, I view it as a compliment. Thank you.
You say that as if animal intelligence wouldn't be interesting to us if we were all creationists.Then why do evolutionists arc & spark when someone brings up some wild apes that do something natural like columbine concertgoers?
No poopy shoe licking required, just an open heart, His yoke is easy and His burden is light. You will have your evidence soon!-_- my lack of belief in deities is not due to some perceived lack of need for a deity in my life or demanding control over my life. It is due to the lack of evidence that deities exist, no more and no less.
Additionally, plenty of atheists are supporters determinism, people that do not believe free will actually exists and view events as pre-determined. I personally am apathetic about it; I don't care if free will exists or not.
But you know what I am? A coward. If I thought there was some supreme being that would punish me for not submitting to it, I'd lick its poop covered shoes every day of my life to avoid divine retribution. So, I find your post to be extremely presumptuous.
Soon is a relative term. I'll be satisfied as long as I don't die first.No poopy shoe licking required, just an open heart, His yoke is easy and His burden is light. You will have your evidence soon!
I just think it's ironic when we're taught that we're animals that should believe in natural selection, fight or flight, survival of the fittest, and certain life choices due to genetic predisposition; then those teachers stand around and scratch their heads and wonder what went wrong when someone acts like the animal he's been told he is all his life.You say that as if animal intelligence wouldn't be interesting to us if we were all creationists.
Because they wont stay dead, we are not vampire hunters.When I used to participate in the general C/E debate over a decade ago, a common refrain from the creationist/ID side was how evolutionary biology was doomed, more and more scientists were rejecting it, and that it would eventually be replaced by some sort of scientific creationism or ID.
None of this has obviously come to pass, with creationism/ID making zero dent against mainstream science. Not only that, but creationism has even been losing popular support insofar as USA polling goes.
All I really see from creationists these days when it comes to prognostications is run-of-the-mill apocalyptic prophesy.
Have creationists given up on overturning the scientific establishment? Is it now just a matter of sitting around, chanting about the evils of evolution and waiting for the world to end?
What is the end goal for creationists these days?
When I used to participate in the general C/E debate over a decade ago, a common refrain from the creationist/ID side was how evolutionary biology was doomed, more and more scientists were rejecting it, and that it would eventually be replaced by some sort of scientific creationism or ID.
None of this has obviously come to pass, with creationism/ID making zero dent against mainstream science. Not only that, but creationism has even been losing popular support insofar as USA polling goes.
All I really see from creationists these days when it comes to prognostications is run-of-the-mill apocalyptic prophesy.
Have creationists given up on overturning the scientific establishment? Is it now just a matter of sitting around, chanting about the evils of evolution and waiting for the world to end?
What is the end goal for creationists these days?
I'm not sure that's true. I lived in the Bible Belt for a while and found that agnostics (and atheists) seemed to have an easier time of it than non-YEC Christians. I thought it might be because they were regarded as potential targets of conversion, whereas a person already secure in his faith in Christ would not be.My primary statement was that they have come for he conclusion that God is not knowable and that is what I backed up with Webster's definition. Atheism is frowned upon on some circles. They will always receive negative reactions and so its easier to play it neutral, to avoid friction and call themselves Agnostic, it's cool, less provocative. They are not really saying I do or I don't believe, not commiting and so it appears that they are on the fence. There is no fence though - the fence is not any better than being a firm atheist. My father was atheist and you used to tell us, "Don't tell anyone, its a secret ..." There was a bit of shame there.
Yes, creationists want to impose creationism (and the associated fundamentalist Protestant prayer and Bible study) on all public school children, regardless of their faith. Who is bothering who?
People are taught that they are animals, but we are also taught that our intelligence comes with added responsibility that other animals do not have. A hamster that eats its babies has no thought of the horror of its own actions, and never could deeply think about it. A human parent, on the other hand...I just think it's ironic when we're taught that we're animals that should believe in natural selection, fight or flight, survival of the fittest, and certain life choices due to genetic predisposition; then those teachers stand around and scratch their heads and wonder what went wrong when someone acts like the animal he's been told he is all his life.
In the USA at least, teaching creationism in publically funded schools is a violation of constitutional law. So no dice.
So maintaining the Free Exercise clause of the Constitution against creationists is bothering them??? Which is better? To avoid bothering creationists? Or to stand up for the religious freedom rights of children of other faiths in the public schools?YOU are bothering creationists.
Generation times vary for different organisms. I mean, the Triops in my evolution experiment will experience as many generations in 10 years as humans would in more than 2500 years. Obviously, how much a population can change within a specific time frame will partially depend on how quickly they mature and breed. This is why bacteria are commonly used for evolution experiments; their generations can pass within minutes.Well according to your own belief, change takes generations, perhaps thousands of years.... Why change your belief now and demand change in your lifetime, even if I have shown you empirical proof of change hundreds of times within your lifetime?
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