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What is meant by dying by if you saw God

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Read this somewhere, what is meant by this? I hear God is in and everywhere. Or is most things just creations and he looks in from an external point of view? Or out to an external view? God is good and love so why would me seeing him right now purely kill me?
 

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Do you mean:-
Isaiah6:1 In the year of King Uzziah’s death I saw the Lord sitting on a throne, lofty and exalted, with the train of His robe filling the temple. 2 Seraphim stood above Him, each having six wings: with two he covered his face, and with two he covered his feet, and with two he flew. 3 And one called out to another and said,
“Holy, Holy, Holy, is the Lord of hosts,
The whole earth is full of His glory.”
4 And the foundations of the thresholds trembled at the voice of him who called out, while the temple was filling with smoke. 5 Then I said,
Woe is me, for I am ruined!
Because I am a man of unclean lips,
And I live among a people of unclean lips;
For my eyes have seen the King, the Lord of hosts.

6 Then one of the seraphim flew to me with a burning coal in his hand, which he had taken from the altar with tongs. 7 He touched my mouth with it and said, “Behold, this has touched your lips; and your iniquity is taken away and your sin is forgiven.”

God is Holy and sinners cannot stand/survive in his Holy prescence. Anymore than darkness can still be in a room when you turn the light on.

God is everywhere via his Spirit, but God is not in everything and everything is not God.
This is because he made all of creation. He exists outside of time and space, which are also his creation.
 
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J.T.'s answer just above is useful, and I needn't repeat it, so I'd like to tell you how I felt way back, not long after converting, within the first few years. At one point, as I was wanting more intensely to draw closer to God, I began to think of what it would be like to be near to Him physically (which on a deep level we long for!)...and I felt a certain fear, because, as it seemed in my feeling, perhaps metaphorically, I felt if I was brought into His physical presence, even nearby physically to Christ in Heaven as He is now in His full glory (!) I feared that I would be immolated, by the light of His presence. That I'd not be able to be that near, physically. Of course, God can withhold that overwhelming glory when it would destroy mortal men, so that they are not destroyed in their mortal bodies. This feeling or dream like idea was true in a way, in that we must be more totally transformed, purified. As Moses, we could not look directly on His face in our mere mortal bodies and live in mortal bodies. But we needn't worry, because He is transforming us, and in our new spiritual bodies to come, we will not be as we have been here.
 
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In the Old Testament Moses asks to see God, to which God says, "No one can see Me and live." But God permitted Moses to experience the barest glimmer of the Divine Glory, which caused Moses' face to shine so bright that he had to wear a veil.

It's important to make a couple points here. One of which is that God cannot, in the literal sense, be seen; as God has no shape or form, He is unfathomable and incomprehensible. What we learn from this, however, is that God in His naked glory is too much for us to comprehend or handle. If you or I were to experience the fullness of God's glory--as we are, mortal, sinful, etc--it would utterly destroy us. God is so incomprehensibly Holy and Other to ourselves that we could not even bear to conceive, let alone experience, Him in His naked glory.

It's not that God is going to kill someone who looks at Him, it's that He is so incomprehensibly glorious that He is beyond us in ways that we cannot even begin to imagine.

C.S. Lewis in one of his writings draws several analogies, he says what if we consider we are in a room and a man says, "On the other side of the door there is a ferocious beast." We would likely experience a kind of fear, a primal fear, because we know and understand what a ferocious beast is and could possibly do to us. It's a natural fear. But then what if we were in a room and a man told us, "On the other side of the door is a great spirit." And if we believed him, we would experience another kind of fear, but a different kind of fear. It is not a fear of the known, but a fear of the unknown.

That inkling of "the numinous", of the transcendent other, causes in us what we might call dread or awe.

The Bible often speaks of the "fear of God". By which the biblical writers don't mean natural fear, or being "scared", but rather the dread awe of God. Of considering the immense and immeasurable reality of God, that God is God.

And so the language of Scripture highlights this: That God in His Essence, in His bare glory, is so immense, unfathomable, immeasurable, and ineffable that we dare not even think we can begin to know or understand Him.

But that doesn't mean that we cannot know Him, only that we cannot know Him in His Essence. We cannot approach Him or encounter Him in His bare naked glory. Instead we meet and know God through Jesus Christ.

In the prologue of John's Gospel we read, "No one has ever seen God, but the only-begotten Son who is at the bosom of the Father, He has made Him known." (John 1:18). Later on in John's Gospel Jesus says, "If you have seen Me you have seen the Father." To know God's Son is to know God. So Jesus says, "If you had known me, you would have known my Father also. From now on you do know him and have seen him." (John 14:7). Because God the Father has desired to be known through His Son, and so His Son has become flesh, become human. And so in Jesus, the very Son of God made man, we have met God, and know Him. Not as the distant unbearable glory hidden behind the veil of His majesty, but as the loving and compassionate Father of our Lord Jesus Christ. So Jesus invites us to know God, to know His Father, through Himself.

That is why we don't seek after God except through Jesus. It's why Jesus says, "I am the way, the truth, and the life; no one can come to the Father except by Me."

-CryptoLutheran
 
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Most of it true but not all , like Satan is sinner and can stand in presence of God even talk to Him.

It's just sinful human flesh can't stand the power of God and be in his presence , we are told that God is consuming fire ( speaking of God the Father , there was account with pre-incarnated Christ in OT wrestling with Jacob , so when Jacob says "I saw God face to face ", then he means Christ and not YHWH cuz he would be dead instead).
 
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Is human flesh in itself sinful or is it the spirit/faith or lack of spirit/faith inside that would ultimately kill us? Like for example, we know good will always reign over dark, if a person has more darkness in their heart than good (only God would know the balance fully I reckon) then they would be destroyed because most of what they are is not of God and they would not be be able to bear it?
Or no matter how much faith you have you would still be destroyed...?
God does not want to destroy us but he himself would not be able to stop that from happening? Or maybe that's the wrong perspective, maybe he does communicate with us "directly" just not within his full power as to not stress our feeble human brains out?
Like Moses, he was able to do good works in the name of the Lord, but perhaps he also lost his mind in the process...
 
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Before Adam and Eve fell, they could commune with God directly. After the fall of man, the human line became tainted by sin. We are not all born in sin and shaped in iniquity. So unless we are changed and made incorruptible and perfect we cannot look upon the glory of God. God has therefore sought over the years to communicate to us through prophets, preachers, the bible, the holy spirit, etc. But no man can behold Jesus in his full glory in the same way we cannot go near the sun and look at it. Our bodies just wont be able to handle it.

In the Old Testament, when the priest had to enter the Most Holy Place where the ark of the covenant was, the very presence of God was there. The priest had to make a special sacrifice for himself to remove all his sin before going into that room. They would tie a rope onto the priest so if he dies in there they can get him out because if they go in there they would die as well. There is a story iin the bible about a man who touched the Ark of the Covenant and died instantly. Its all about the overwhelming glory of God.
 
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