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What is Faith...? Believing...? Doubt...?

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Interesting OP,

Do I hold faith that because my race killed love...Will love save me because I do not understand it ? Thus, what I do not understand I shun, but...expect a higher moral ground from that which I kill daily in sin so when I die I party with God ....

Of course !! That is faith in a righteousness none of us posses no not one. Thus, I move over and quit claiming goodness and righteousness for there is none in me ever. After reading the Word in knowledge alone, as me alone, in the translation it [bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse]ed me off. In that anger I quit reading and took sin as my lover and mannn I loved my sin and reveled in it until one day God put a someone in my path to teach format of the Word. My perception of it, in do I see it as a task? And yeah buddy, I sure did, even sitten there with him and listening to this drivel was...Task. Then this guy starts doing stuff for me not even asked for but plucked out of conversations not in the Word. Just simple kindness that broke this hardened heart to start listening . I talk of people are bad to rely on matters of Spirit and this guy too is a firm believer of that so as he teaches, he and me got bibles, he always reaffirmed 20 30 times a sit down don't believe me believe the Word as we both got fingers on the verse. Perception is key to everything ... If I have faith in Gods love, after a time in the Word reading nothing but love, and bam I was hit with revelation where all before, this verse was not ...Perceived in love, by me on my own. I read it in knowledge format where there is no God. My perception was limited to peoples version of love. My baptism came again as the Spirit enveloped to leave me broken just like when I was 12 but led astray by a religion that depends upon guilt to fill the coffers thus the antithema to consciousness teaching NT . God is true , He will not forsake His children (He will let you roam on your own and court sin but will not leave you there) as living proof of 35 years wandering in self destruct mode yet had the baptism at 12 but forgotten it was until a second visiting reminded this vessel I relied on people to teach .... Knowledge of Spirit.

Imagine, as a child, the baptism visits you and we go get saved and are ate up in pure joy . Next week , same child goes back to same church and the lesson is in OT and it instills guilt to the babe in the Spirit of love but because momma believes we believe and straddle the two different books of the bible and apply law to us. Eventually this mind snaps and a big ole F that ensues lets just have fun while we can . There is process for those that are new to Christ and it aint in the OT. For southern bumkins like me one of yall big brained people out there ought to write "Christ for dummies" :D. We like our dummies books :oldthumbsup::oldthumbsup: . So this one tries to teach concept of love in my own pain of misconstrued understanding that snapped a 15 year old mind (3 years of soaking up guilt taught and quantity of reading the Word to ...Avoid hell or Prov:1:7 personified in the first half of the verse and the second half wisdom of people not God) and took sin as the lover. Hope something edifies in this content besides that's one dumb bumpkin :D .
 
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I'm pretty sure the definition of those terms goes something like this:

When you are presented with a problem, or question that you do not understand the answer to, or something you cannot prove, you have two courses of action:

Doubt or Belief.

A Christian at some point in your life presented to you the idea that you are dead to sin, and that your current course will lead you to Hell, which is eternal separation from God (or eternal punishment as a lot of preachers will call it), and that the way out of this was to accept Christ and Repent for your Sin (along with all of the other things that come with that).

You had two courses of action:

Doubt (which is what most people do)
Believe (which is what we did)

Now, when you Believe in something that you cannot prove (God went to great lengths to make sure a lot of this stuff could not be proven with the methods and knowledge of Men), you believe because of Faith, not because of Proof.

We believe in gravity, because we have proved it exists. We don't know why it exists, we just know that it does, and it has a certain strength, and it affects objects in a certain way. There is no "Faith" in Gravity, because we've Proven it.

We believe that 2+2 = 4, because we've proven it. There's no Faith there.

We believe in God, and the things He has commanded us to do, even though we cannot Prove that He exists using our means (He designed it this way on purpose). That's Faith.

Now, no Christian will ever be perfect. Satan constantly throws attacks at us, left-and-right. He is constantly accusing us, trying to make us feel wretched and unclean, trying to tell us that God doesn't love us, and at times, he tells us that God doesn't exist and we should forget about the idea of Heaven because it doesn't exist.

Wherever your weakest point is, is where Satan will try to hit you the hardest. But, sometimes he'll throw a changeup because you'll be expecting your weak point to be hit. If your weak point is, say, sexual sin, he might decide to throw a Doubt in God's Existence at you because you'll be expecting and preparing for a sexual sin attack.

The point is, every Christian will have doubts at some point in their lives. Maybe when you go to bed, you might think "What if I'm wrong, what if this is all wrong? What if He doesn't really exist? What if when I die, I just cease to exist?"

That's Satan talking, not you. Push it out of your mind. Pray. Ask the Lord to rebuke Satan for you, maybe even say a quick apology if that helps you feel better. The most important thing, is that despite any doubts you might have in a day, He will forgive you and gladly welcome you back after you fight it off. He knows Satan is constantly attacking us, and He knows that each time Satan tries and fails to topple us, we build our bases stronger to prepare for the next attack.

He knows there will be doubts. We are imperfect, and we are still imprisoned in our flesh. I'm pretty sure that 100% Faith and 0% Doubt is kinda like the "sinless" life -- it is simply impossible to attain while on this Earth. Doubt is actually a sin itself and since a "sinless" life is impossible to attain, one can easily say that 0% doubt is also impossible.

The important thing is, that you fight the doubt off and you remain steadfast on the path. Stumbling once in awhile will happen, just stay on the path till its end. Even if you veer off the path, yell out for the Lord and He will come and find you and lead you back to the path.

The Good Shepherd won't lose a single one of His sheep, as the Bible says.

EDIT: I'd also like to remind the OP of "Doubting Thomas". One of the APOSTLES doubted in Christ's resurrection, despite Christ telling them this would happen beforehand (and of course, don't forget Jesus's reaction to Thomas's doubt). If an Apostle doubted, what does that say about us? Of course we can't have perfect faith. That's just impossible.
 
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Faith is believing (on the Lord Jesus Christ)

But is Faith/believing "knowing" without any doubt in your mind at all?, or is faith the process toward 100% belief?

God Bless!
An understanding that I like.
Faith is an action word.
Faith is present when one puts their "belief into motion".
The more solid ones foundation of belief is the stronger ones faith becomes.
Thus, walking in faith is "trusting Jesus", because of what we believe. (and know what is true)

God Bless,
Rev Thomas
 
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Faith is believing (on the Lord Jesus Christ)

But is Faith/believing "knowing" without any doubt in your mind at all?, or is faith the process toward 100% belief?

God Bless!
Faith is believing (on the Lord Jesus Christ)
Believe what ?
He was the messiah, He was the savior , He was the redeemer : where in another word He was the God him self?.(Isa43:11, 45:21, 49:26, 60:16 )
from these beliefs we are saved ?.
Yes, if we really understand .
Mt13:23 And the seeds sown in the good soil stand for those who hear the message and understand it: they bear fruit, some as much as one hundred, others sixty, and others thirty."

How can we sure that we really understand Him ?, may be the questions below will lead us to the further step examining our selves whether we really understand ( because "understand" comes as grace not as efford ).
a. If He was the Messiah, savior, redeemer for the God's people , Why should He come about 2000 years ago, why not in Abraham era or Moses era ?.
b. Why should He dye first, followed by raising , and after these events came to pass----->then said : salvation is only by grace ?.
 
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Faith is believing (on the Lord Jesus Christ)
Correct. That is "saving faith". But faith is really simple. Just as you believe those you trust, you believe God because you trust God, and Christ, and His Word. So why should we trust God? Because He alone is trustworthy, and He has given us a trustworthy record of His Son (1 Jn 5:9-12):
9 If we receive the witness of men, the witness of God is greater: for this is the witness of God which he hath testified of his Son.

10 He that believeth on the Son of God hath the witness in himself: he that believeth not God hath made him a liar; because he believeth not the record that God gave of his Son.

11 And this is the record, that God hath given to us eternal life, and this life is in his Son.

12 He that hath the Son hath life; and he that hath not the Son of God hath not life.
 
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What I'm trying to say is: Can it be faith without doubt, if your 100% certain, then what can you be taking on "faith"
When you see a chair, do you agonize over whether it will hold you up, or do you simply sit down?

So where there is faith and trust, there is no doubt, and where there is doubt there is no faith and trust. It is 100% one way or another.
 
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