In my eyes the only faith someone can have in religion is blind faith. No matter how much someone knows about their particular religion, there's nothing solid or believable evidence that suggests that there is a God.
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And really anything can be taken on blind faith, which seems to mean believing something without really knowing what it is or entails, essentailly ignorance of a topic though still claiming to adhere to it. So I will concede it is possible to have blind faith in religion (or again really anything), although the ignorance will not get the adherent too far.
What about Science? Does that not appeal to you?
Yet to others Islam is more logical, and to others Judaism. Which is why I believe that having to accept Jesus Christ as my lord and savior throughout my life is wholly unreasonably considering so many other religions could be true. To others, like me, Science seems more logical, so if I follow Science rather than religion, does this condemn me to hell? Or at least ban me from heaven if when I die I find there is one? Even if I've lived my life as a good person?
Why do you think we'll be in big trouble?
Yes, the human heart is wicked - true enough. But, remember, God is faithful, and it is written "Seek and ye shall find." God recognises someone's efforts in seeking truth, and He, by His Holy Spirit, does lead people to truth - even if it takes several years.
They are many things that doesn't make sense to me in Christianity
Al least, it not logical to say that all people who aren't christian will go to hell coz they didn't take Jesus as their savior and lord. Although many of them are much better people than the Christians themselves, It is just UNFAIR.
In my eyes the only faith someone can have in religion is blind faith. No matter how much someone knows about their particular religion, there's nothing solid or believable evidence that suggests that there is a God.
Then do some people who seek truth eventually believe in a different God? If the Christian God is supposed to lead them to the 'truth'?
Following science to what end though. I have never thought of science as an end unto itself, but rather a means to better explore and explain things. As for your afterlife, no one can answer that here frankly, though I pray it is blissful in the end.
It seems far more illogical to state absolutely there is no possibility of a God. Obviously we don't agree on the notion there is no real evidence to support there being a God. There isno "smoking gun" that is true, though a propondurance of the evidence points to a God.
Some people are driven away from Christianity by people's mistakes. They do sometime go and look to other religions in order to find acceptance. Thing is, whatever comfort or acceptance they find tends to be temporary. That's because of God's Holy Spirit gently drawing them. Sure, they can try and resist, but they won't find peace and fulfilment that way. That's why some people only come to Christ in their old age - some even in their dying moments, when the spiritual veil is lifted, and they get to see into eternity.
Just for knowledge, for understanding.
I agree, there is a possibility for most things. Where is the preponderance of evidence? Please, don't state the bible.
If that is so, why do some people believe so strongly in other religions there entire life, and feel that is the only true religion, and try to spread the word of that religion?
There are also times when people do the opposite of accepting Christianity in their dying moments, and instead accept another religion, how is this explained by Christians?
Well now I HAVE to say the Bible!
Anyways, for a more in depth answer part of my rationale are the five proofs of Thomas Aquinas; which yes strictly speaking are not proof, but are helpful.
Also, to quote one of my close friends, "I don't know how anyone can believe in evolution (which both of us do) and not believe in God. Sexual reproduction as well; yes I understand the science behind both, and that knowledge does not make me less certain of God nor dimish the beauty and profunditiy of both, but is an enhancement of them. Think about it, I don't care if you are freaking steven hawkins himself, the fact that complex and diverse life exists, and that in all likelyhood it come from extremely simple life forms is amazing, and most certainly not a guarentee. Same with our own personal beginings, two half cells uniting and sparking a chain reaction that ends with a multi cellular organism, with unique and specialized features. For me the greater the knowledge the greater, not less, the awe and the certainty that there exists an order to it all.
That's my well past bed time ramble...I hope it is somewhat coherent!
Exactly my pointwhich yes strictly speaking are not proof
Well, certain religions entrap followers, with the threat of execution if they try to abandon their religion. Fear of persecution drives them, at least in certain cases.
I must admit to never having encountered that, or seeing events like that recorded. The spirit world is largely a mystery to us, and I suppose people can mistake one spirit for another in their final moments.
Additionally, humans, this exchange itself, our diversity of thought and language demonstrates more than mere intelligence or creativity, but rather I believe demonstres something unique about man, are soul/spirit/spark of life whatever one wants to call it; it seems more than simply a product of our evolution.
yes, but they are dealing with different things.Intrigued Fellow said:What about Science? Does that not appeal to you?
The ultimate Christian hope is not going to heaven when you die, but being part of God's world put to rights on earth. To be part of that all of us need to be put right for ourselves and for the good of that restored creation. You can choose to be part of that putting to rights or not; God won't force you. Should you wish to be part of then Jesus is the way.Yet to others Islam is more logical, and to others Judaism. Which is why I believe that having to accept Jesus Christ as my lord and savior throughout my life is wholly unreasonably considering so many other religions could be true. To others, like me, Science seems more logical, so if I follow Science rather than religion, does this condemn me to hell? Or at least ban me from heaven if when I die I find there is one? Even if I've lived my life as a good person?
yes, but they are dealing with different things.
Science and Christianity aren't in competition or conflict.
it's called politics. Sadly churches are not immune from it.Intrigued Fellow said:Completely disagree, they're most defiantly in conflict. Christians used to prosecute people for spreading/believing in scientific theories that they didn't agree with, as it conflicted with their views.
the bible was never trying to answer scientific questions.This happened until they twisted the interpretation of the bible to suit proven scientific theories.
you, me, the whole creation is a mess.I didn't understand what you said here, explain it more clearly please?
it's called politics. Sadly churches are not immune from it.
the bible was never trying to answer scientific questions.
you, me, the whole creation is a mess.
God is fixing that up.
Do you choose to be part of that or not?
but it's not the bible's question.Intrigued Fellow said:'How was the Universe created?' is a scientific question,
no. God allowed us to. Because growing up isn't possible without the space to make mistakes.Didn't God supposedly create that mess?
Intrigued Fellow said:It still answered it nonetheless.
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