What if there's no God?

Rocky582 · Jun 8, 2005

To be able to call yourself a Christian, you must all be bias and know that God is God and God is there and have experience god's Glory. But just hypothetically, if at the end of your life, there is no God (assuming that is there's still another after life by no god), beside from being depress to the fact that you've believe and have hope in something that didn't does not exist, will you regret dedicating your life to Christianity? Why and why not?

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Arikereba · Jun 8, 2005

First of all, "assuming that there's still another after life by no god," that's a big assumption to make, and says nothing about what kind of after life it might be.

Yes and no. I think the best thing is to live one's life in accordance with the truth, whatever the truth might be, so I would have regretted that much although I don't know how much it would affect my life. But also no, because it's not like there's a million fun things I could be doing that I'm missing out on, and a philosophical framework for living your life with compassion isn't a bad thing.

lawtonfogle · Jun 8, 2005

Rocky582 said:
To be able to call yourself a Christian, you must all be bias and know that God is God and God is there and have experience god's Glory. But just hypothetically, if at the end of your life, there is no God (assuming that is there's still another after life by no god), beside from being depress to the fact that you've believe and have hope in something that didn't does not exist, will you regret dedicating your life to Christianity? Why and why not?

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first off this depends on the second life. Could i remember my first life?

But to your question, i would not regret it, it is probally the only reason i am not in jail right now (i was and am mentally unstable)

levi501 · Jun 8, 2005

Rocky582 said:
To be able to call yourself a Christian, you must all be bias and know that God is God and God is there and have experience god's Glory. But just hypothetically, if at the end of your life, there is no God (assuming that is there's still another after life by no god), beside from being depress to the fact that you've believe and have hope in something that didn't does not exist, will you regret dedicating your life to Christianity? Why and why not?

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no, nothing to regret if you fade into oblivion.
This is why you see so many just-in-case xians who hold beliefs(or say they do) because it costs them nothing to believe. Just in case there is a God they'll lie to themselves and say they believe because they fear the punishment they'll receive for nonbelief according to xian dogma.
Or sometimes they just fear the social stigma... at least in the south, so they say they're xian by default.

Diagoras · Jun 8, 2005

Is this a take on Pascal's wager? So far we have absolutely no evidence that our conciousness survives brain death. What if our 'souls' all end up on the planet Knotlob and we are judged by the Grand Whizzie? What if we are all reincarnated as slugs? You can speculate until the cats come home, but it's really pointless. At this point in time, with the evidence we have, we can only say our concousness stops at brain death. period, end of story. So asking 'hypothetically, if at the end of your life there is no God' is really not a hypothetical question at all. So the time to ask the question about dedicating your life to Christianity (or Judiasm or to Islam) is now. When you die, it's too late. You will already have wasted time, energy, money on something worthless.

arizona_sunshine · Jun 8, 2005

Diagoras said:
You will already have wasted time, energy, money on something worthless.

How do you define worth?

I am very comfortable knowing that I have invested time, energy and money on something that brings peace to my mind and, I believe, relief to others. This is the case regardless of whether I spend eternity in paradise, a burning hell hole or having ceased to exist.

sfd3492 · Jun 8, 2005

Diagoras wites

>"So far we have absolutely no evidence that our conciousness survives brain death"

Really? None? Are you sure about this? No evidence at all? What if I provided you with evidence? What would 'acceptable' evidence look like, and what would you do with it?

vanshan · Jun 8, 2005

If there were no God, I would rather live my life quite differently. I would rather spend my time pursuing things that pleasure me, rather than trying to become selfless and obedient to Christ. Goodness is not its own reward.

Without God, I would want to live like an American.

Basil

Quijote · Jun 8, 2005

vanshan said:
If there were no God, I would rather live my life quite differently. I would rather spend my time pursuing things that pleasure me, rather than trying to become selfless and obedient to Christ. Goodness is not its own reward.

Without God, I would want to live like an American.

Basil

Ouch! could you not have said this two years ago when I was not yet an American citizen??

Good set up though

Quijote · Jun 8, 2005

I would not regret it. Many of the happiest moments of my life revolved around my beliefs (meeting my wife, our wedding, having the kids baptised, many childhood memories). Also, many of the core tenents of Christianity are good, commonsensical teaching for living life.

cheers

Carri20 · Jun 8, 2005

To be able to call yourself a Christian, you must all be bias and know that God is God and God is there and have experience god's Glory. But just hypothetically, if at the end of your life, there is no God (assuming that is there's still another after life by no god), beside from being depress to the fact that you've believe and have hope in something that didn't does not exist, will you regret dedicating your life to Christianity? Why and why not?

It's too hard for me to imagine that, even hypothetically. It's like saying "what if there was no oxygen on earth?" ..I wouldn't be here to begin with. I wouldn't be able to live. So I guess my response is, I wouldn't be able to regret anything.

Diagoras · Jun 8, 2005

sfd3492 said:
Diagoras wites

>"So far we have absolutely no evidence that our conciousness survives brain death"

Really? None? Are you sure about this? No evidence at all? What if I provided you with evidence? What would 'acceptable' evidence look like, and what would you do with it?

As far as I know, there is no verified account of a person returning from the grave and giving us a description of what was on the other side. Near death experiences don't count for various reasons.

Quijote · Jun 8, 2005

Diagoras said:
As far as I know, there is no verified account of a person returning from the grave and giving us a description of what was on the other side. Near death experiences don't count for various reasons.

Not a fan of Romeros films are ya?!

Though even in his films those who return from the grave don't do much talking...

cheers

angela 2 · Jun 8, 2005

Rocky582 said:
To be able to call yourself a Christian, you must all be bias and know that God is God and God is there and have experience god's Glory. But just hypothetically, if at the end of your life, there is no God (assuming that is there's still another after life by no god), beside from being depress to the fact that you've believe and have hope in something that didn't does not exist, will you regret dedicating your life to Christianity? Why and why not?

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Being depressed or having regrets would be so far down the scale of importance as to be almost invisible. If there is no God, we are all dead in our sin, and we have no hope of mercy, forgiveness or substitutionary atonement. That's the big deal.

.Mikha'el. · Jun 8, 2005

There is no way to know whether there is a God or not. For me, I would not regret it, for I think that being a Christian and being wrong leaves one in much better shape than being an atheist and being wrong! After all, the atheists have nothing to fall back on if they are wrong!

Anti-Fear · Jun 8, 2005

I think believing in Jesus is a win win situation because even if God did not exist Christianity provides an idealogy to people, this idealogy brings around immense personal growth, motivates you towards self-improvement, and makes people happy.

MQTA · Jun 8, 2005

vanshan said:
If there were no God, I would rather live my life quite differently. I would rather spend my time pursuing things that pleasure me, rather than trying to become selfless and obedient to Christ. Goodness is not its own reward.

Without God, I would want to live like an American.

Basil

I'm an American and God, No God, I'm living the same way all these years. I do what I do, I've done what I've done, and if He's there, He's been approving all along. If not, no change.

MQTA · Jun 8, 2005

Carri20 said:
It's too hard for me to imagine that, even hypothetically. It's like saying "what if there was no oxygen on earth?" ..I wouldn't be here to begin with. I wouldn't be able to live. So I guess my response is, I wouldn't be able to regret anything.

That's true, but hypothetically, we know we have oxygen, and if it were to ever suddenly disappear or our atmosphere changed suddenly, we'd not even have time left for a prayer.

Our Sacred Honor · Jun 8, 2005

Rocky582 said:
To be able to call yourself a Christian, you must all be bias and know that God is God and God is there and have experience god's Glory. But just hypothetically, if at the end of your life, there is no God (assuming that is there's still another after life by no god), beside from being depress to the fact that you've believe and have hope in something that didn't does not exist, will you regret dedicating your life to Christianity? Why and why not?

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well then that would just suck now wouldnt it...

Diagoras · Jun 9, 2005

Petrarch said:
There is no way to know whether there is a God or not. For me, I would not regret it, for I think that being a Christian and being wrong leaves one in much better shape than being an atheist and being wrong! After all, the atheists have nothing to fall back on if they are wrong!

Oh, I think there is certainly a way to know whether a 'God' exists or not. Is the description of the 'God' internally consistant? Is there evidence? Use the same criteria you would use to evaluate any claim. Not every claim is true.

As far as being 'wrong', what you have presented is a simple version of Pascal's Wager. The problem with this is that there are more selections than the Christian God. What if Odin is waiting for you, or Allah and they really don't think you are a 'True Believer'. This particular God may even prefer an atheist over someone who worships a 'false' God. Since we could all be 'wrong' the best avenue to take is to make your own decision based on what you know NOW, not what you IMAGINE will happen in the future.

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