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Which Enoch?but if either tree shows up anytime before that , might I suggest we don't even touch it until after judgement day.which I will take to mean the Great white throne.
the other daughter trees and springs of wisdom and such I will ask about then and there.
in the mean time your Tree of Knowledge appears to be wherever his throne is I think is what Enoch is saying .
and I suspect that the dismantled tree is probably it.
I wonder why he dismantled it? yet it is still growing I think it said .
it doesn't seem to need a root.
By all means at all times continue in His Grace, yet we continue in His word to know the truth of things which He desires us to search out, and it is this Truth of Him which we are permitted to boast in;I always wonder about if it was about training and timing also.
but later I believe that at least doing it with out his permission / rights was choosing a life without him.
thus thus in the old covenant had boats loads of stuff you shouldn't even touch and here again says
Heb 13:10
We have an altar, where of they have no right to eat which serve the tabernacle.
thus he has always kept forbidden fruit in our face for a very good reason I think.
and about the opposite tree has it's laws also.
He promises to some churches that some will be given the right to eat from the tree of LIFE .
Rev 2:7
He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the tree of life, which is in the midst of the paradise of God.
Rev 22:2
In the midst of the street of it, and on either sideof the river, was there the tree of life, which bare twelve manner of fruits, and yielded her fruit every month: and the leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations.
Rev 22:14
Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.
does anyone know when we are or are not to eat from the tree of life?
we can make lots of assumptions. but do we know?
from all I can find in it . just don't do it there is important conditions / laws associated to it. . first that He give the right.
and a second condition I only found plainly stated in Enoch's record. and is hinted at here in these verses.
and what even made me question when we can or can't , was some ancient beliefs by Amazonian indians.
they knew NOT to EAT .
There is a right that is given or taken because of outside conditions and laws higher than we now understand .
because we don't know what we don't know. if we rely on our own knowledge , ideas and our own understandings.. we are all lost already.
but might I suggest that anyone who takes that fruit before they get permission from the real Lord of Lords and really his Father face to face in his city .. could get the same consequences that Adam and Eve did for stealing, taking with out permission or really against permission , or acts of rebellion . consequences being Expelled and cursed to die/decay/ or be punished with pain for the act of rebellion. etc. which one I don't know . I don't want to know . all I know is
"Don't touch that " or you get the hammer.. hammer time. not until I see the father face to face.
so is it about self will? or Obedience to him ? or both ?
Even lost tribes in the amazon have been told by their shaman and such not to eat from the tree of life until they are given permission by someone they can probably only define..
my huge problem there in lies who might be passing out permission and when they might be doing that !
I suspect the next round of temptation ( time of trail) or the one past that past the 1000 years , somehow might be like the old story and it has the same exact rhyme but a different tree.. . maybe the song should be labelled " rights and entitlements" or " our knowledge of the laws of a loving God " or maybe
"surely He would" ?
but what I know for sure is
"don't touch that"
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