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What does the God of the creation think about homosexuality?

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Bro homosexuality has been around for a long time be it with men or woman . Heterosexual relationships don’t fare much better with the laws of God when it comes to sex before marriage. Actually there wouldn’t be too much left of western civilisation today if God acted upon those laws to their fullest extent. The power of sexual union is one of the most pleasurable and spiritual experiences known to humanity. So much so that not many keep consistent with the many biblical laws you mention be they heterosexual, homosexual or lesbian
 
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Repent, for if we are sinning willfully there remains no more sacrifice for sin, Only judgement and fiery indignation.
Yes - that's what im saying to everyone.

Repent or face the fiery indignation !!!

I also cut them out !!!
 
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Yes - that's what im saying to everyone.

Repent or face the fiery indignation !!!

I also cut them out !!!
Cut them off you say . There have been those that have done just that throughout our histories. Being some extreme removing an eye along with other limbs . Cut it off you say. Confused one then there still be much trouble from God if all did. I dare say the God would hold you accountable for failing to go forth and multiply and replenish the earth
 
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accountable??

I'll just cut/paste bible verses to god.

checkmate!!
 
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We are told not to fellowship. For a little leaven, leavens the whole.

To avoid confusion between two different issues being (seemingly to me) conflated with one another here, I think we need to bring into our interpretive equation 1 Corinthians 5:9-11 along with our self-application of 1 Corinthians 6:9-11.

Each of these is a different [set] of social scenarios that we need to be more discerning about---one is in relation to those persons 'outside' the Church, and the other is in relation to those persons inside the Church. Somehow, I keep seeing folks getting all of this confused and synthesizing one solid moral principle to apply across the board in the "name of holiness" which wasn't Paul's directive.
 
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I assume you mean 2 Cor 6.
In both circumstances we are called not to fellowship. So whatever point you are trying make is lost in that detail.
 
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I assume you mean 2 Cor 6.
In both circumstances we are called not to fellowship. So whatever point you are trying make is lost in that detail.

No. Did you attempt to read the two passages I cited???? "That detail" is anything but lost. It can be ignored, however.
 
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I assume you mean 2 Cor 6.
In both circumstances we are called not to fellowship. So whatever point you are trying make is lost in that detail.

Obviously, we're not to be unequally yoked with unbelievers, but that's not the issue that I'm pointing to. What I'm attempting to head off at the pass is the excuse some Christians give for utterly cutting off, or feeling like they can opt out from, being loving toward their neighbors.

Loving one's non-Christian neighbor might include things like taking them out for lunch and having an amiable but mutual talk, or mowing their lawn. It doesn't mean patting them on the back for whatever sins we all know that humanity frequently falls into.

So, we can be analytically clear about this distinction and do so to avoid both confusion of terms as well as confusion of our responsibilities.
 
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In truth, i struggle with the bible a lot - knowing what it is and how to read it. How it should be studied. Sometimes i see nearly the entire new testament as a record of paul's religious ideas. (Obviously he didnt write all of it).

Just because paul believed that - ought i also believe it??
Thats not to say the bible isnt "truth" or spiritually significant to me - it is.
It's just not a rule book to me.

i think i have a mission on earth which is to love whoever im with and do my best in my little bubble of the world.
Im not rushing off all over the world to be a christian rockstar - i have a much humbler part than that.

As for cutting people out. i think there is a difference between righteousness and goodness.
Im not trying to be right all the time - i do love, respect and admire goodness though. the righteous stuff - i'll just have to trust god for that
 
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Well, the act itself is an abomination or an abominable act, according to the lord, but nonetheless
the lord will deal with people at the end. We talking the second resurrection, the white throne judgment, but the books says in Revelation 21: 8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.
 
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The book say in Revelation 22: 10 And he saith unto me, Seal not the sayings of the prophecy of this book: for the time is at hand.

11 He that is unjust, let him be unjust still: and he which is filthy, let him be filthy still: and he that is righteous, let him be righteous still: and he that is holy, let him be holy still.

12 And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be.
13 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.

14 Blessed are they that do his commandments that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.

15 For without are DOGS, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.
 
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Right. Exactly.
 
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Therefore Israelites (which are also considered Negroes, African Americans, blacks so on and so forth) that were removed from their land and brought to the northern hemisphere in the hulls of ships and who were sold into slavery do not have a chance!

So this is a part of prophesy that happen to the Israelite, even spoken by Moses in Deuteronomy 28 chapter. The nine tribes was the first to go into slavery and after the days of Jesus the last three tribes went into slavery, under the Romans. The Israelities (Jews) of the Bible, and most noteworthy, the Bad Treatment and Continuous Bad Conditions that were Prophesied to befall the real Israelites if they failed to keep the laws and commandments of God. God promised the Israelites that if they failed to obey him, he would curse them and eventually have them removed from their land and carried as slaves into every nation upon the earth. Israel failed, and God kept his promise.

After the Israelites were remove from the land of Israel, it was left as an empty vacant lot, with know inhabitants. Now, if one can understand that any land which has been emptied of its rightful owners can be claimed by any nationality of people that have power or permission to settle in and possess it, then it should also be easy to understand that nationality of people Which move in it and take over the land can assume (adopt) the culture, history, and even call them self by the name of the people that the they have replaced. After a long period of years, that nationality would be accepted by the rest of the world as being the original and rightful inhabitants of that land. This would especially be true if the original people of the land had been move by force, and carried off as slaves. Such is the case of the real Israelites (Jews)!

When someone else is called by your named it is very easy to become lost and living in your land, while you have been carted off into slavery and are called by whatever nation you are found. After being in slavery for a long period of years, and throughout generations, it would be impossible for your children to remember their history. How can they remember what they were never taught?

But this goes into a whole other lesson
 
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Okay, but what does any of this have to do with the Africans who were kidnapped into slavery? Are you saying that the Africans were Israelites, or just that both groups endured enslavement, or something else?

Also, the Israelites or Africans who "do not have a chance": they do not have a chance at what?
 
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Confused one you struggle with the Bible a lot. Well in our own strength it is impossible to understand. But with Gods guiding Spirit his Spirit shall lead us into all truth. And with that the truth does set us free. As to the entirety of the Bible it is like a gold mine with a supply of endless gold nuggets waiting to be discovered to bless our souls as we dig deeper. The riches within are inexhaustible. So much so it’s a life long journey with not all being revealed until come that perfect day. As to the Apostle Paul I assume you speak of celibacy. It was only Pauls opinion and a wise opinion in many ways with being more flexible with Gods work but certainly not meant for all. Paul may have even been once married but we can’t say for sure. But one thing is certain many of the apostles were married at least according to Paul’s quote in 1st Corinthians 9:5 ( Don’t we have the right to take along a believing wife as do other apostles ) the tradition of priests having to remain single came centuries later with such a oath . And probably not a wise one. As it should have always been optional for many a good servant cannot endure such a oath. As to the Bible as truth . Well yes the Bible is always truth. The problem is generally with us mere mortals not digging deep enough. As to having a mission in life. Well you certainly don’t need rock star status for that . Quite simply put if you be a child of God then you are already one of Gods elect and God has a plan for you ❤️ it’s called a relationship with God. Learning to love the God with all our hearts ♥️. That be another life long journey: ). Confused one wishing you a blessed day for today . Yours Kathleen
 
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Is it ? Sex is sex and the marriage bed be undefiled. Perhaps outside of marriage any act of sex outside of marriage is deemed abominable to the God. Bro as to Revelations 21: 8 how many within the church lay claim to at least one of those attributes mentioned but have now passed from death unto eternal life who have practiced such things . It can only be referring to those who have not accepted Jesus Christ as their saviour
 
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Grace is nothing more than a free gift. And that free gift is our access back to the tree of life (Jesus) which Adam caused us to lose by disobeying God. Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned: (Romans 5: 12) But to maintain your grace you must keep the law. (1John 3:4) Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law. Now we have just read the biblical definition of sin, the transgression (breaking) of the law (commandments.) It doesn’t matter what you or I think sin is, it’s what God says sin is that counts.

Paul says in (Rom. 4:15) Because the law worketh wrath: for where no law is, there is no transgression. If there is no law there is no sin.

Paul said in "1 Corinthians 6:9" Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, 6:10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.
 
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