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What does Psalm 51:5 mean to You ???

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What does Psalm 51:5 mean in your opinion ? How do you interpret it ???

It's a lamentation on the part of the writer. It's a "woe is me, what a wretched man am I" type of thing. It reminds me of the Wayne's World characters saying "we're not worthy". An odd analogy, I know.
 
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It's a lamentation on the part of the writer. It's a "woe is me, what a wretched man am I" type of thing. It reminds me of the Wayne's World characters saying "we're not worthy". An odd analogy, I know.

When king David was in his mother's womb, was he holy or unholy ???
 
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When king David was in his mother's womb, was he holy or unholy ???

He was neither. We have to read the bible as literature, not as an instruction manual. The books of the bible are letters, songs, and narratives. It isn't a checklist.
 
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He was neither. We have to read the bible as literature, not as an instruction manual. The books of the bible are letters, songs, and narratives. It isn't a checklist.

Neither ??? What other options are there ?

So you believe 2 Timothy 3:16 is a lie ?
 
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So if believers are called the "Sheep" and Non believers are called the "Goats",. What are the neutral people called ???

Actually sheep and goats refers to those who do the things they are supposed to vs. those who do not. There are those who never hear the gospel but still do the things they are supposed to do.
 
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Actually sheep and goats refers to those who do the things they are supposed to vs. those who do not. There are those who never hear the gospel but still do the things they are supposed to do.

So you disagree with Mark 16:16 ???
 
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Actually sheep and goats refers to those who do the things they are supposed to vs. those who do not. There are those who never hear the gospel but still do the things they are supposed to do.

So a person doesn't need to trust in Jesus for salvation??? They ultimately only need to trust in their good works for their salvation?
 
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So a person doesn't need to trust in Jesus for salvation??? They ultimately only need to trust in their good works for their salvation?

It takes both. Someone hears the gospel, believes, changes their ways, is baptized for forgiveness of their previous sins. Afterwards they are expected to lead godly lives including helping and serving others. That has been the teaching of Christianity since the beginning.
 
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It takes both. Someone hears the gospel, believes, changes their ways, is baptized for forgiveness of their previous sins. Afterwards they are expected to lead godly lives including helping and serving others. That has been the teaching of Christianity since the beginning.

Well how many good works must a person do per year to be considered a good person ???
 
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Exactly....... Good works should only be done out of gratitude for what Jesus did. Not to earn salvation.

Jas 2:24 You see then that a man is justified by works, and not by faith only.
 
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