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it's evolution if the variation is selected and remains in the population.so you consider any such variation as evolution. but again: its just a variation, so why call it evolution?
Because it's not just a variation, it's a particular kind of variation. We call that particular kind of variation "evolution". We don't call other kinds of variation "evolution". Using different words for different things helps us keep track of them. That's how language works.so you consider any such variation as evolution. but again: its just a variation, so why call it evolution?
The force is strong with this one.Only a Sith deals in absolutes but not science.
Because it's not just a variation, it's a particular kind of variation.
Yes, I agree that evolution is a kind of variation. It's also a kind of process, and a kind of thing.so you agree that its a variation
True.a change of color is also a particular kind of variation.
No, it's not really evolution if the change in color is not a heritable trait that changes in frequency in the population. If it is a a heritable trait that changes in frequency in the population, then it really is evolution.but its not realy evolution since its still the same creature basically.
If it is a a heritable trait that changes in frequency in the population, then it really is evolution.
No, I don't see the problem.yep. so as i said: according to this criteria any heritable new trait that changes in frequency in the population is evolution. so according to this if human will stay as human for about billion years, is still be evolution by definition. see the problem?
according to your criteria even if all creature were created at once by a designer (without a common descent), evolution will still be true. you realy dont see any problem with that situation?
a better term will be variation rather then evolution. such variation can heppen even in a non-living object such as car, that can change its color during the time.
No, I really don't see any problem with that situation. Evolution is a process that happens. We can observe it happening, as species change genetically from generation to generation. It happens whether species were specially created, came from a common ancestor, or were constructed by aliens. Evolution can lead to multiple species branching off from one species, but it doesn't have to.according to your criteria even if all creature were created at once by a designer (without a common descent), evolution will still be true. you realy dont see any problem with that situation?
so evolution is true even if special creation (without a common descent) is true. at least according to your criteria.No, I really don't see any problem with that situation. Evolution is a process that happens. We can observe it happening, as species change genetically from generation to generation. It happens whether species were specially created, came from a common ancestor, or were constructed by aliens. Evolution can lead to multiple species branching off from one species, but it doesn't have to.
It so happens that on this planet, all the life forms we know have arisen by the process of evolution from a common ancestor (or a common ancestral pool of organisms). That happens to have been the result of evolution here.
No, I really don't see any problem with that situation. Evolution is a process that happens. We can observe it happening, as species change genetically from generation to generation. It happens whether species were specially created, came from a common ancestor, or were constructed by aliens. Evolution can lead to multiple species branching off from one species, but it doesn't have to.
It so happens that on this planet, all the life forms we know have arisen by the process of evolution from a common ancestor (or a common ancestral pool of organisms). That happens to have been the result of evolution here.
Evolution is a process. It can't be true or false any more than rainfall or eating are true or false. It is true that evolution occurs, even if special creation occurred. It is also true that existing species share a common ancestry. Two different statements.so evolution is true even if special creation (without a common descent) is true. at least according to your criteria.
. It is true that evolution occurs, even if special creation occurred.
It is also true that existing species share a common ancestry.
thanks. but this berkeley source disagree with that statement:
An introduction to evolution
"Evolution means that we're all distant cousins: humans and oak trees, hummingbirds and whales"
and: "The central idea of biological evolution is that all life on Earth shares a common ancestor"
so evolution cant be true if special creation is true.
if you refer to all species on earth then no- its just a belief.
I conclude (with P< .005) that you don't understand science experiments.There you go again - "almost", "must have" - either it did or didn't. If it did, the experiment successfully proved it. If it didn't, the experiement successfully proved that it didn't. There is no "almost". At least, there isn't in the scientific method. It's quite binary.
Right. Common ancestry is a reasonable inference form the way we know evolution works.and: "The central idea of biological evolution is that all life on Earth shares a common ancestor"
so evolution cant be true if special creation is true.
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