What does having 96% chimp dna mean to you?

pitabread · Dec 31, 2017

rjs330 said:
What ugly political agenda are you referring to?

Destroying science education. Creationists' goals have traditionally been to suppress the science education of science they don't like.

rjs330 · Dec 31, 2017

doubtingmerle said:
I'm not afraid of no gods.

Got evidence?

Well perhaps "fear" is too strong of a word. But you have to admit that to accept intelligent design means you have to consider who the designer was right? Can one really accept intelligent design without considering or at least questioning who the designer is?

xianghua · Dec 31, 2017

pitabread said:
An animal wouldn't look like that object. Again, what part are you not understanding about the reason that watch looks and functions the way it does is due to its physical construction?

its a theoretical question. lets say that it will look like that object. will you consider it to be a watch or not? very simple.

pitabread · Dec 31, 2017

xianghua said:
its a theoretical question.

A theoretical question still needs to have some grounding in reality. Your question has no grounding in reality; it's pure fantasy and therefore there is no real answer.

You might as well ask what I think life inside a Disney cartoon would be like:

lets say that it will look like that object. will you consider it to be a watch or not? very simple.

I've already answered this. You have a bad habit of asking the same questions over and over expecting different answers. I've already given you my response, so you can stop asking.

doubtingmerle · Dec 31, 2017

rjs330 said:
Well perhaps "fear" is too strong of a word. But you have to admit that to accept intelligent design means you have to consider who the designer was right? Can one really accept intelligent design without considering or at least questioning who the designer is?

If there is an outside force that was evolved in creation, I would want to understand that force, as would practically every scientist.

doubtingmerle · Dec 31, 2017

pitabread said:
You have a bad habit of asking the same questions over and over expecting different answers. Stop asking. You've got your answer already.

A sentiment that every parent has had to express.

But in a discussion of science, that should be different.

tyke · Dec 31, 2017

pitabread said:
You have a bad habit of asking the same questions over and over expecting different answers

Isn't one of the definitions of insanity doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result?? Since no insanity is involved here there must be another reason why the same question(s) is/are asked ad nauseam.

This has become a boring thread, I'm afraid.

Speedwell · Dec 31, 2017

rjs330 said:
What ugly political agenda are you referring to?

To start with,
To teach creationism in public school science classes.
To require fundamentalist Protestant prayer and Bible study of all students, regardless of their religion (this is known as "putting God back in the schools").

That's the minimum, but it goes farther. Some years ago, a slate of creationists was elected to the school board of Vista, California (a residential suburb of San Diego). Besides the above, their program included such things as,
Forbidding the teaching of tolerance of ambiguity and diversity.
Forbidding the teaching about women who have achieved success in careers outside the home.
Bolting the students' desks to the floor to eliminate group work, which undercuts the divinely ordained authority of the teacher.
Teaching blatantly revisionist US history (a la David Barton)
Eliminating any kind of sex education.
And so on, all pretty typical of creationist goals still today.
Or you can just take a look at the campaign platform of your creationist Poster Boy, Judge Roy Moore (leaving aside his alleged pedophilia; he is from Alabama, after all).

I've lived in the Bible Belt and seen this kind of thing in action for myself where creationists have political power, for instance little kids being routinely harrassed and bullied by their teachers for belonging to the "wrong religion." Creationists look back to the bad old days of the 19th century when Evangelical Protestantism enjoyed an entirely unwarranted status as the unofficial state religion. They see themselves as the true heirs of that Golden Age and want to bring it back. No thanks.

pitabread · Dec 31, 2017

Speedwell said:
Eliminating any kind of sex education.

What I find especially amazing is the idea that you can somehow eliminate sexual activity by eliminating sex ed. Like that has ever worked.

Speedwell · Dec 31, 2017

rjs330 said:
Is ID present in creation?

I don't think so, but I can't tell for sure because the usual evidence of design is not present in it.

Almost there · Dec 31, 2017

ImAllLikeOkWaitWat said:
I know some people like to point out how close our species is to chimps and use this as evidence that God doesn't exist but would you really come to this conclusion on your own? If God created The universe, chimps and humans. Why couldn't he have used similar methods when creating chimps as us.

I was watching a video about 15 body parts that we were supposed to lose over the next 500 years due to evolution and it had me starting to have some atheist sayings run through my mind and made me just ponder a bit. I eventually came to the conclusion that if God created humans and chimps then we should expect similarity between two created things God made right?

So what do things like the closeness of our dna to chimps, and the fact that we have certain body parts that we don't even need mean to you in regards to your belief in God or lack of belief?

A 2001 Dodge Neon and Intrepid use the same door handle, and probably a LOT of other parts, not including the obvious screws, bolts, wires, etc. The reason is simple. Efficiency, the same design group, designed for the same basic function. i.e. all that matching DNA is a strong case for design.

Almost there · Dec 31, 2017

pitabread said:
What I find especially amazing is the idea that you can somehow eliminate sexual activity by eliminating sex ed. Like that has ever worked.

I was taught how to touch in sex ed. I had no clue until the nurse explained to us how to do it. I was in 8th grade. 1967

bhsmte · Dec 31, 2017

Almost there said:
I was taught how to touch in sex ed. I had no clue until the nurse explained to us how to do it. I was in 8th grade. 1967

Did you pass the class?

Almost there · Dec 31, 2017

bhsmte said:
Did you pass the class?

There wasn't a test.

bhsmte · Dec 31, 2017

Almost there said:
There wasn't a test.

Good thing I guess.

USincognito · Dec 31, 2017

rjs330 said:
And evolution is a man made theory...

As opposed to theories "made" by what?

rjs330 said:
...that has no actual evidence of it ever occurring.

That simply isn't true. Evidence for evolution is constantly presented and constantly ignored or hand waved away by Creationists.

FrumiousBandersnatch · Jan 1, 2018

bhsmte said:
Did you pass the class?

You have to wait until it comes to pass...

Hieronymus · Jan 1, 2018

we don't have 96% chimp DNA

sfs · Jan 1, 2018

Hieronymus said:
we don't have 96% chimp DNA

A more accurate statement would be: our best estimate is that 97% of our DNA is 98.7% identical to chimp DNA.

doubtingmerle · Jan 1, 2018

bhsmte said:
Did you pass the class?

I hope he had a good lab partner.

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