What does God say about Homosexuality?

[BigChrisfilm]

Genesis 19:4-5
4But before they lay down, the men of the city, even the men of Sodom, compassed the house round, both old and young, all the people from every quarter: 5And they called unto Lot, and said unto him, Where are the men which came in to thee this night? bring them out unto us, that we may know them.

Leviticus 18:22
22Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.

Leviticus 20:13
13If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

Deuteronomy 23:17-18
17There shall be no harlot of the daughters of Israel, nor a sodomite of the sons of Israel. 18Thou shalt not bring the hire of a harlot, or the price of a dog, into the house of the LORD thy God for any vow: for even both these are abomination unto the LORD thy God.

Romans 1:26-27
26For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: 27And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.

1 Corinthians 6:9-10
9Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, 10Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.

 

[davedjy]

Do we need more homosexuality threads? do you know how many we currently have? *passes out*

 

[davedjy]

Read:

Leviticus 18:22 and 20:13 read: “You shall not lie with a man as with a woman; it is an abomination.” and “If a man lies with a man as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall be put to death, their blood is upon them.” Taken out of historic context, these verses seem to clearly condemn sexual relationships between two people of the same sex, or at least male homosexuality. However, very few scriptural experts will contend that these passages apply to modern day homosexual relationships. American Baptist religious professor Tony Campolo, puts it this way, “You have to understand that passages from Leviticus are not a good case for condemning homosexuality. The Old Testament is not a good case because the Old Testament is divided into two kinds of law: moral law and what we call purity codes. Purity codes are what we call kosher laws. And if you read the Old Testament you will find there’s a whole host of kosher laws, of what you can eat, what you can’t eat, what kind of clothes you can wear. All of these are spelled out. There is no question that when Christ came and when Peter preached, that purity codes were put aside. We no longer live kosher lives like our orthodox Jewish friends do. And those who are scholars, even the most conservative of scholars, will argue that the statements in Leviticus that have to do with homosexuality fall into the purity code category. As a matter of fact it comes right after the passage that says that to touch the skin of a dead pig is an abomination, which puts the whole Super Bowl into moral question.”

What about I Corinthians? It reads: “Do not be deceived; neither the immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor sexual perverts, nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor robbers will inherit the kingdom of God.” The problem with this verse is that “sexual pervert” is translated in some texts as homosexual. But the reality is that we don’t know what the Greek words “malakos” and “arsenokoitai” really mean. They are translated as effeminate, soft, sexual pervert, and even homosexual. But no one really knows. Interestingly enough, up to the fourteenth century, arsenokoitai was translated as masturbation. Scholars have concluded that they just don’t know what the words are referring to for sure. Other words for homosexual did exist in Greek at that time, but were not used in these verses. Why? Even though they claim to know, don’t assume a televangelist knows what these verses mean when well-studied experts can’t be sure.

That leads us to I Timothy 1:10. It reads: “Now we know that the law is good, if any one uses it lawfully, understanding this, that the law is not laid down for the just but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and sinners, for the unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers, immoral persons, sodomites, kidnapers, liars, perjurers, and whatever else is contrary to sound doctrine.” This verse only refers to homosexuality if the word sodomite is intended to mean homosexual, which we rebuffed in our discussion of Sodom and Gamorrah. Walter Wink, Professor of Biblical Interpretation at Auburn Theological Seminary, argues that this reference in I Timothy actually refers to a form of male prostitution in which boys were castrated in order to maintain their feminine-like, child-like characteristics for sexual purposes of exploitation. That in no way falls into the concept of two consenting adults entering into a commitment with each other.

That brings us to Romans 1:24-27. “For this reason God gave them up to dishonorable passions. Their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural, and the men likewise gave up natural relations with women and were consumed with passion for one another, men committing shameless acts with men and receiving in their own persons the due penalty for their error. And since they did not see fit to acknowledge God, God gave them up to a base mind and to improper conduct.”

This is the most contentious reference to homosexuality and the only direct reference to lesbianism in the Bible. I admit that two of the theologians I have quoted today, Tony Campolo and Walter Wink, who find no other Biblical verse as an unqualified condemnation of homosexuality, both agree that this verse does without a doubt condemn same-sex sexual behavior. However, Peggy Campolo, Tony’s wife, believes that Paul is not talking about same-sex relationships, but about sexual orgies as part of religious worship.

Ms. Campolo states, “I’d like you to note that Paul wrote Romans in the city of Corinth where the prevailing religion was the worship of Aphrodite. Aphrodite was a hermaphrodite with both male and female sexual organs and in the worship of Aphrodite people played the role of the opposite gender and engaged in sexual orgies with same sex prostitutes who were available in the temple. It was against these orgies that Paul wrote in the first chapter of Romans. There is an obvious connection between idolatry and homosexual practices in Romans one, and what Paul says here cannot be applied to the kind of relationships created by loving homosexual partners. I don’t think it’s a proper use of the Bible.”

Although Walter Wink believes that Paul was condemning same-sex relationships, he also believes that Paul makes this assertion because of his limited understanding of homosexuality. No doubt Paul was unaware of the distinction between sexual orientation, over which one has very little choice, and sexual behavior, over which one does.

 

[EnemyPartyII]

Big Chris Film, unless you can honestly tell me you are compliant with ALL of the Levitical laws, that you don't do anything that they call "abomination" do you have any right to cite them here

 

[davedjy]

Big Chris Film, unless you can honestly tell me you are compliant with ALL of the Levitical laws, that you don't do anything that they call "abomination" do you have any right to cite them here

The greater sin is not realizing how redundant creating these threads are...

 

[MrsJoy]

the passage in acts is not calling all things clean.
it was calling all christians, all believers clean btw

 

[BigChrisfilm]

Big Chris Film, unless you can honestly tell me you are compliant with ALL of the Levitical laws, that you don't do anything that they call "abomination" do you have any right to cite them here

Wrong. I don't live in sin, I don't promote what I do, and I don't do it because I like it. If you are saved, you will not LOVE your sins, and homosexuals LOVE their sins, to the point of saying it isn't a sin at all, which is going against scripture and God himself.

 

[davedjy]

Wrong. I don't live in sin, I don't promote what I do, and I don't do it because I like it. If you are saved, you will not LOVE your sins, and homosexuals LOVE their sins, to the point of saying it isn't a sin at all, which is going against scripture and God himself.

No, there are other denominations that don't believe what you do. Perhaps God isn't convicting them because it isn't a sin.

 

[BigChrisfilm]

No, there are other denominations that don't believe what you do. Perhaps God isn't convicting them because it isn't a sin.

It doesn't matter if there is other denominations that believe something I don't. There is also a Mormon religion, Islam, and Buddism. Hopefully you being a Christian have discovered why those religions are not going to heaven. Perhaps God isn't convicting them because they are not Christians.

 

[manchambo]

Wrong. I don't live in sin, I don't promote what I do, and I don't do it because I like it. If you are saved, you will not LOVE your sins, and homosexuals LOVE their sins, to the point of saying it isn't a sin at all, which is going against scripture and God himself.

Well, what exactly are we talking about here? Wearing certain fabrics? Eating bacon? Which of these abominations do you commit without loving them. I myself find it hard to believe that anyone could eat bacon without loving it.

 

[davedjy]

It doesn't matter if there is other denominations that believe something I don't. There is also a Mormon religion, Islam, and Buddism. Hopefully you being a Christian have discovered why those religions are not going to heaven. Perhaps God isn't convicting them because they are not Christians.

Well, it isn't your place to judge, but those other religions don't believe in the Bible, or they have an extra Bible they follow instead or have replaced it with.

 

[Time4AChange]

We really dont need any more homosexuality threads...us dwelling on it is seriously going to start doing more harm than good...the devil loves the fact that we keep dwelling on proving one another wrong, it leaves very little room for ppl to think about changing and letting God convict them if all they're doing is responding to threads on a website. Just let go, and let God. I agree with you BigChris, and i feel your pain, it's frustrating when truth is clearly being rejected...but everything you'll post has probably already been posted and rejected by those for homosexuality. Even though the Scripture is crystal clear, they'll say "scholars have dismissed that verse", or "not all denomininations follow that Scripture", or something of the sort. Even though the Bible says the Word was with God, and the Word was God, right now they rather put their trust in scholars (mere men, born into sin and still capable of it just like you and i), or denominations (the ones that have strayed away from to Word to be tolerant of all), than put their trust in the Word(God). And for some reason they think that trusting scholars, or denominations over CHRIST is the CHRISTian thing to do.

They'll probably just read my post and reject it again, like they've been doing....so this is directed to you BigChris....i feel your pain, and i been praying for this situation all week, but only God can help them. We just all have to believe together in the name of Jesus, and leave the rest up to Him.

 

[kiwimac]

Sodom and Gomorrah have nothing to do with homosexuality. God had already decided to destroy those cities long before the Angels got there. Moreover the KJV translation of the passage is flawed, it was NOT "all the men", it WAS "All the people." Last time I looked, Women and Children are not normally onlookers at homosexual activities but they may well be participants in attacking those who are different.

Moreover neither Jesus nor Ezekiel consider the crimes of Sodom and Gomorrah to be homosexuality, they consider them to be crimes of inhospitality, of oppression of the poor and the widow, of a failure to share their resources with those in need.

kiwimac

 

[NewChildofGod]

Wrong. I don't live in sin, I don't promote what I do, and I don't do it because I like it. If you are saved, you will not LOVE your sins, and homosexuals LOVE their sins, to the point of saying it isn't a sin at all, which is going against scripture and God himself.

How can you speak for all homosexuals. Have you made it a point to speak to all homosexuals on this planet? That is like saying that all obese people (which over eating is a sin, right?) LOVE food!
As a Christian, I feel I am called to LOVE others because God said to LOVE one another. I have found that when you preach to people that what they are doing is wrong and say things like ALL homosexuals...well that is when people stop listening to you. But when you are Christ-like and joyful, non-Christians want to know why you are so happy, why during this time of trouble you have a certain glow about you, why you are giving encouraging words to others, and the "why's" go on. People want what you have and they want to know how to get it!

 

[thereselittleflower]

For once, let's take an honest and factual look at the use of "Abomination" in Leviticus and the OT in regards to the giving of the OT law, both moral and ritual.

Abomination in Hebrew:

H8441
תּעבה תּועבה
tô‛êbah tô‛êbah
to-ay-baw', to-ay-baw'
Feminine active participle of H8581; properly something disgusting (morally), that is, (as noun) an abhorrence; especially idolatry or (concretely) an idol: - abominable (custom, thing), abomination.​

H6292
פּגּל פּגּוּל
piggûl piggûl
pig-gool', pig-gool'
From an unused root meaning to stink; properly fetid, that is, (figuratively) unclean (ceremonially): - abominable (-tion, thing).
​

H8263
שׁקץ
sheqets
sheh'-kets
From H8262; filth, that is, (figuratively and specifically) an idolatrous object: - abominable (-tion).
​

H8262
שׁקץ
shâqats
shaw-kats'
A primitive root; to be filthy, that is, (intensively) to loathe, pollute: - abhor, make abominable, have in abomination, detest, X utterly.
​

Now . . .

Lev 18:22 Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.8441

Lev 20:13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both8147 of them have committed an abomination: 8441they shall surely be put to death;their blood shall be upon them.

Deu 7:25 The graven images of their gods shall ye burn with fire: thou shalt not desire the silver or gold that is on them, nor take it unto thee, lest thou be snared therein: for it is an abomination8441 to the LORDthy God.

Deu 7:26 Neither shalt thou bring an abomination8441 intothine house,lest thou be a cursed thing like it: but thou shalt utterly detest it, and thou shalt utterly abhor it; for it is a cursed thing.

(passing children through the fire: )
Deu 12:31 Thou shalt not do so unto the LORD thy God: for every abomination8441 to the LORD, which he hateth, have they done unto their gods; for even their sons and their daughters they have burnt in the fire to their gods.

(regarding idols: )
Deu 13:14 Then shalt thou inquire, and make search, and ask diligently; and, behold,if it be truth, and the thing certain, that such abomination8441 is wrought among you;

(regarding necromancy, etc: )
Deu 18:12 For all that dothese things are an abomination8441 unto the LORD: and because of these abominations8441 the LORD thy God doth drive them out, (853) from before thee.


​

Now, let's look at other instances of the use of the English word "abominiation" to translate the Hebrew in Leviticus . . .

Lev 7:18 And if any of the flesh of the sacrifice of his peace offerings be eaten at all on the third day, it shall not be accepted, neither shall it be imputed unto him that offereth it: it shall be an abomination,6292 and the soul that eateth of it shall bear his iniquity.

Lev 11:10 And all thathave not fins and scales in the seas, and in the rivers,of all, that move in the waters, and of any livingthingwhich is in the waters, they shall be an abomination8263 unto you:


Lev 11:11 They shall be even an abomination8263 unto you; ye shall not eat of their flesh, but ye shall have their carcasses in abomination.8262,

Lev 11:12 Whatsoever hath no fins nor scales in the waters that shall be an abomination8263 unto you.

Lev 11:13 And these are they which ye shall have in abomination8262 among the fowls; they shall no be eaten, they are an abomination:8263 (853) the eagle, and the ossifrage, and the osprey,

Lev 11:20 All fowls that creep, going upon all four, shall be an abomination8263 unto you.

Lev 11:23 But all other flying creeping things, which834 have four feet, shall be an abomination8263 unto you.

Lev 11:41 And every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth shall be an abomination;8263 it shall not be eaten.

Lev 11:42 Whatsoever goeth upon the belly, and whatsoever goeth upon all four, or whatsoever hath more feet among all creeping things that creep upon the earth, them ye shall not eat; for they are an abomination.8263

​

Now, what does this all show?


It shows that the argument that one can't make an issue of the fact that homosexuality is condemned as an abominiation in the Old Testament Law because the Old Testament Law treats issues of Ritual Purity as abominations too, is patently false; for it bases its foundation on AN ASSUMPTION that the OT law treats all issues called "abomination" in English the same, using this to lead to the conclusion that the laws on homosexuality are somehow not a part of the MORAL law of God, but rather the ritual purity laws of the Old Covenant and so have no bearing on us today.

But, as we have just seen through an examination of the real evidence, this argument is entirely bogus and without merit . .

The flaw of that argument is to focus on the ENGLISH while IGNORING THE UNDERLYING HEBREW to see if there are any distinctions or not . . .


What I have just done above is to expose the FALLACY IN LOGIC used by those who make such "arguments" by examining the ASSUMPTION that the English word "abomination" is in any way controlling on whether or not we understand the commands to be regarding moral law; and I did so by forcing us to LOOK AT THE ORIGINAL LANGUAGE . . .


The actual evidence is quite astounding actually and absolutely destructive to the arguments for homosexuality not being a moral issue, for it shows that when the OT scripture speak of MORAL issues being an abomination, a particular Hebrew word is used, yet when the OT scriptures speak of RITUAL PURITY issues being an abominaiton A DIFFERENT Hebrew word is used . . CONSISTANTLY.


So, above we find that the Hebrew word H8441

תּעבה תּועבה
tô‛êbah tô‛êbah​

is used in regards to MORAL LAW, not ritual purity laws . . .

And we find that the Hebrew words H8263

שׁקץ
sheqets​

and H8262

שׁקץ
shâqats
shaw-kats'​

are used in regards to RITUAL PURITY laws . . not moral law . . .


So the reality is, the scriptures in Leviticus DO NOT treat homosexuality at all in the same way they do ritual purity laws of the Old Covenant. . . .

Homosexuality is treated in the same way violations of other MORAL laws, the violation of which are an abomination unto God, SUCH AS

IDOL WORSHIP, and
causing one's children to PASS THROUGH THE FIRE to Molech, and
the engaging in

DIVINATION,
NECROMANCY,
SORCERY,
WITCHCRAFT, etc, etc,​

are treated . . .

ALL ABHORENT violations of the UNCHANGING MORAL Law of God. . . . abominable violations of God's Unchanging moral law.



THAT is what scirpture says about homosexuality . . . .


.

 

[Der Alte]

...Ms. Campolo states, “I’d like you to note that Paul wrote Romans in the city of Corinth where the prevailing religion was the worship of Aphrodite. Aphrodite was a hermaphrodite with both male and female sexual organs and in the worship of Aphrodite people played the role of the opposite gender and engaged in sexual orgies with same sex prostitutes who were available in the temple. It was against these orgies that Paul wrote in the first chapter of Romans. There is an obvious connection between idolatry and homosexual practices in Romans one, and what Paul says here cannot be applied to the kind of relationships created by loving homosexual partners. I don’t think it’s a proper use of the Bible.”

Show us some credible, verifiable, historical evidence for anything about Aphrodite? And then explain how Aphrodite had anything at all to do with Rome? Remember Paul was writing this to Rome and it had to make sense to them.

Is there any kind of evidence that the Romans knew anything about any Greek deity, including Aphriodite. We have TV and internet and most people don't have a clue about the religions of other countries.

 

[davedjy]

Show us some credible, verifiable, historical evidence for anything about Aphrodite? And then explain how Aphrodite had anything at all to do with Rome? Remember Paul was writing this to Rome and it had to make sense to them.

Is there any kind of evidence that the Romans knew anything about any Greek deity, including Aphriodite. We have TV and internet and most people don't have a clue about the religions of other countries.

They knew what he was talking about.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aphrodite

 

[Der Alte]

For once, let's take an honest and factual look at the use of "Abomination" in Leviticus and the OT in regards to the giving of the OT law, both moral and ritual.

Abomination in Hebrew:

H8441
תּעבה תּועבה
tô‛êbah tô‛êbah
to-ay-baw', to-ay-baw'
Feminine active participle of H8581; properly something disgusting (morally), that is, (as noun) an abhorrence; especially idolatry or (concretely) an idol: - abominable (custom, thing), abomination.​

H6292
פּגּל פּגּוּל
piggûl piggûl
pig-gool', pig-gool'
From an unused root meaning to stink; properly fetid, that is, (figuratively) unclean (ceremonially): - abominable (-tion, thing).
​

H8263
שׁקץ
sheqets
sheh'-kets
From H8262; filth, that is, (figuratively and specifically) an idolatrous object: - abominable (-tion).
​

H8262
שׁקץ
shâqats
shaw-kats'
A primitive root; to be filthy, that is, (intensively) to loathe, pollute: - abhor, make abominable, have in abomination, detest, X utterly.
​

Now . . .

Lev 18:22 Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.8441

Lev 20:13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both8147 of them have committed an abomination: 8441they shall surely be put to death;their blood shall be upon them.

Deu 7:25 The graven images of their gods shall ye burn with fire: thou shalt not desire the silver or gold that is on them, nor take it unto thee, lest thou be snared therein: for it is an abomination8441 to the LORDthy God.

Deu 7:26 Neither shalt thou bring an abomination8441 intothine house,lest thou be a cursed thing like it: but thou shalt utterly detest it, and thou shalt utterly abhor it; for it is a cursed thing.

(passing children through the fire: )
Deu 12:31 Thou shalt not do so unto the LORD thy God: for every abomination8441 to the LORD, which he hateth, have they done unto their gods; for even their sons and their daughters they have burnt in the fire to their gods.

(regarding idols: )
Deu 13:14 Then shalt thou inquire, and make search, and ask diligently; and, behold,if it be truth, and the thing certain, that such abomination8441 is wrought among you;

(regarding necromancy, etc: )
Deu 18:12 For all that dothese things are an abomination8441 unto the LORD: and because of these abominations8441 the LORD thy God doth drive them out, (853) from before thee.


​

Now, let's look at other instances of the use of the English word "abominiation" to translate the Hebrew in Leviticus . . .

Lev 7:18 And if any of the flesh of the sacrifice of his peace offerings be eaten at all on the third day, it shall not be accepted, neither shall it be imputed unto him that offereth it: it shall be an abomination,6292 and the soul that eateth of it shall bear his iniquity.

Lev 11:10 And all thathave not fins and scales in the seas, and in the rivers,of all, that move in the waters, and of any livingthingwhich is in the waters, they shall be an abomination8263 unto you:


Lev 11:11 They shall be even an abomination8263 unto you; ye shall not eat of their flesh, but ye shall have their carcasses in abomination.8262,

Lev 11:12 Whatsoever hath no fins nor scales in the waters that shall be an abomination8263 unto you.

Lev 11:13 And these are they which ye shall have in abomination8262 among the fowls; they shall no be eaten, they are an abomination:8263 (853) the eagle, and the ossifrage, and the osprey,

Lev 11:20 All fowls that creep, going upon all four, shall be an abomination8263 unto you.

Lev 11:23 But all other flying creeping things, which834 have four feet, shall be an abomination8263 unto you.

Lev 11:41 And every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth shall be an abomination;8263 it shall not be eaten.

Lev 11:42 Whatsoever goeth upon the belly, and whatsoever goeth upon all four, or whatsoever hath more feet among all creeping things that creep upon the earth, them ye shall not eat; for they are an abomination.8263

​

Now, what does this all show?


It shows that the argument that one can't make an issue of the fact that homosexuality is condemned as an abominiation in the Old Testament Law because the Old Testament Law treats issues of Ritual Purity as abominations too, is patently false; for it bases its foundation on AN ASSUMPTION that the OT law treats all issues called "abomination" in English the same, using this to lead to the conclusion that the laws on homosexuality are somehow not a part of the MORAL law of God, but rather the ritual purity laws of the Old Covenant and so have no bearing on us today.

But, as we have just seen through an examination of the real evidence, this argument is entirely bogus and without merit . .

The flaw of that argument is to focus on the ENGLISH while IGNORING THE UNDERLYING HEBREW to see if there are any distinctions or not . . .


What I have just done above is to expose the FALLACY IN LOGIC used by those who make such "arguments" by examining the ASSUMPTION that the English word "abomination" is in any way controlling on whether or not we understand the commands to be regarding moral law; and I did so by forcing us to LOOK AT THE ORIGINAL LANGUAGE . . .


The actual evidence is quite astounding actually and absolutely destructive to the arguments for homosexuality not being a moral issue, for it shows that when the OT scripture speak of MORAL issues being an abomination, a particular Hebrew word is used, yet when the OT scriptures speak of RITUAL PURITY issues being an abominaiton A DIFFERENT Hebrew word is used . . CONSISTANTLY.


So, above we find that the Hebrew word H8441

תּעבה תּועבה
tô‛êbah tô‛êbah​

is used in regards to MORAL LAW, not ritual purity laws . . .

And we find that the Hebrew words H8263

שׁקץ
sheqets​

and H8262

שׁקץ
shâqats
shaw-kats'​

are used in regards to RITUAL PURITY laws . . not moral law . . .


So the reality is, the scriptures in Leviticus DO NOT treat homosexuality at all in the same way they do ritual purity laws of the Old Covenant. . . .

Homosexuality is treated in the same way violations of other MORAL laws, the violation of which are an abomination unto God, SUCH AS

IDOL WORSHIP, and
causing one's children to PASS THROUGH THE FIRE to Molech, and
the engaging in

DIVINATION,
NECROMANCY,
SORCERY,
WITCHCRAFT, etc, etc,​

are treated . . .

ALL ABHORENT violations of the UNCHANGING MORAL Law of God. . . . abominable violations of God's Unchanging moral law.



THAT is what scirpture says about homosexuality . . . .


.

Go, girl!

 

[Der Alte]

They knew what he was talking about.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aphrodite

First I said credible, verifiable historical evidence NOT the internet equivalent of a public rest room wall, where anybody can scribble anything and anybody can change anything, no controls, no accountability.

And you evidently didn't even read this. Rome is not mentioned in this article.

 

[davedjy]

First I said credible, verifiable historical evidence NOT the internet equivalent of a public rest room wall, where anybody can scribble anything and anybody can change anything, no controls, no accountability.

And you evidently didn't even read this. Rome is not mentioned in this article.

Aphrodite was the prevailing God of the time in Rome.

I don't need to debate you, go do what you want.