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Originally posted by Apologist
This is theistic evolution and I find that very problematic.
Consider this from CRI's web site:
Genesis 3 unmistakably asserts that death overcame man when he transgressed God's command. Death, according to Scripture, had no hold on man until some later period following his creation. This flies directly in the face of evolutionary theory. Still, theistic evolutionists may try to skirt these passages by regarding the opening portion of Genesis as non-historical. But such recourse can only lead them to even more disastrous avenues. Theistic evolutionists can allegorize Genesis as much as they want, but to do so, they have to contend against Scripture itself. Paul, in such passages as Romans 5 and 1 Corinthians 15, clearly treats the Genesis account in historical terms and he speaks of human death as God's judgment on sin. It was for this very reason -- to answer for God's punishment for our sin -- that Christ died. This is the very heart of the Gospel. Quite frankly, Theistic Evolution, in my opinion, is a contradiction in terms, somewhat like talking about burning snowflakes.
But if human death were not God's judgment on sin, as theistic evolutionists would have to maintain, what then did Christ die for? Those clinging to evolutionary dogma would have to admit that Jesus lied when He claimed to die for our sins. Consequently, the atonement is robbed of all meaning, while the Gospel is hollowed to an empty shell. In their attempt to fuse evolutionary theory with Scripture, theistic evolutionists only wind up perverting God's Good News into no news, as we remain dead in our sins.
Originally posted by Neo
[*]John 1:18 "No man hath seen God at any time."
[*]Exodus 33:20 "Thou canst not see my face: for there shall no man see me, and live."
[*]I John 4:12 "No man hath seen God at any time."
Eph says..
"I know why you stay up all night at your computer Neo"....
Hey Neo...you should do a Bible word study and find out just what "The Matrix" is..
In the literal Greek...It reads..No one has seen the fullness of God...
We can see a portion of what God is..thru Jesus Christ....but thats not the entire picture of what God is...
Moses was allowed to look at God's "rear end" as he passed by on the Mt...That also wasn't the entire picture..! see EX 33:20:23...God says "my back parts" BUT that is the KJV cleaning up what God actually said in the Hebrew..!
...Because everyone knows God would never say things like that...There are unattended little children running around here on this forum..and their eyes and ears might melt...if they knew what God really said...!
So.....Neo since I'm now on constant "thin ice" review with some of the Monitors..I won't post what GOD actually said in the Hebrew because I'll get the boot for it...!
I won't post what GOD actually said in the Hebrew because I'll get the boot for it...!
Originally posted by s0uljah
You cant quote Scripture?
Eph writes...
I can...but not the way God said it...!
Originally posted by EPHRIAM777
Originally posted by s0uljah
You cant quote Scripture?
Eph writes...
I can...but not the way God said it...!
Originally posted by seesaw
Well I can't really say much on that subject because I don't believe in god, but seebs, smilin and Thebear seems to accept evolution or I think they do and they think Jesus died from our sins. I think that they could talk about this better than I.
Eph writes...
ANYONE...who thinks EVO...is based on "science"...Might also think Star Trek is "science".....!
Let me say right up front....Science FICTION..isn't science...and EVO isn't science...it's fiction...!
Originally posted by s0uljah
Eph says...
I was warned not to use "adult" type language on this forum...( not curse words mind you..just PROPER adult words for certain "reproductive body parts"
GOD at times uses some "juicey" words...That the English translators of the KJV...decided to clean up...
Thus you end up with legalistic people taught it's not Christian..to use certain words...that GOD had no trouble using..!
...Of course around here I would never want to cause any babes in Christ to stumble...So for their sake...I agreed...( although I'll admit it is amazing to see how OLD some of those babes are )...!
Originally posted by EPHRIAM777
Originally posted by seesaw
Well I can't really say much on that subject because I don't believe in god, but seebs, smilin and Thebear seems to accept evolution or I think they do and they think Jesus died from our sins. I think that they could talk about this better than I.
Eph writes...
ANYONE...who thinks EVO...is based on "science"...Might also think Star Trek is "science".....!
Let me say right up front....Science FICTION..isn't science...and EVO isn't science...it's fiction...!
That is your opinion, but you are completely wrong. You seem to talk about evolution a lot, but it looks like you have never studied it. Evolution is mainstream science.
Originally posted by sulphur
I saw a alien two years ago and there three witnesses.Nobody believed me and I don't tell lies
Originally posted by sulphur
I saw a alien two years ago and there three witnesses.Nobody believed me and I don't tell lies
Eph chuckles...
Of course that statement alone shows some BIG holes...in it...!
Why did you wait 2 yrs to tell us about it now...?
Evo is based on that...So scientists come up with dating systems that START out saying the world is very old...and then seek to prove it...!
Defend this stuff if you want...But you don't even realise your defending something that is based on MANY different subjects...that are AGREED upon by the followers of this subject..!
t's a shame that you can't even SEE what I'm trying to tell you...! Because I have studied it..
The entire subject of EVO stands or falls...on there being "long slow gradual changes over vast amounts of time"...In order for things to evolve..!
So in order to back it up..they need "other" sciences to MATCH what each say...But the entire thing is like a "house of cards"...!
Knock one down and they ALL fall...!
There was no long slow gradual change with this planet...things didn't always decay at the same rate...thus Carbon 14 for example is a flawed system of dating..!
Do you see how ALL of it is interlocked yet..?
So...how did things Evolve if there wasn't a VAST amount of time...for slow gradual changes to occur..?
Evo is based on that...So scientists come up with dating systems that START out saying the world is very old...and then seek to prove it...!
A house of cards...thats all it is...ALL built on FAITH in their dating systems being right...! BUT they use these systems to only prove what they already believe..!
So they use fossils to date strata...and the strata to date the fossils..they claim "layers" of snow are yrs...and layers of strata are yrs...When in fact their proof for all this...is only based what they ALREADY "believe" in...!
Remember this....Someone made the world...OR the world made itself...The universe is governed by certian laws..Inertia...gravity...thermodynamics..where did they come from or evolve from..? where does energy come from..?
The Geologic column that Charles Lyle made is only found in textbooks...It's never been found in the earth..or an actual dig...!
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