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What Does Atheism Profit Atheists?

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Then ask a bunch, lol. What a ridiculous conversation when the point seems to be no more than proving a clearly good answer wrong.

You consider relying on someone else when you can instead test it yourself a good answer?

And when you rely on the wrong person you come up with answers like the ones you tout here.
 
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Did you mean pedestal?

Or did you really mean to say "peddle stool"?
 
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I literally can't stop laughing since this post...the irony of you telling anyone about "foolishness" and then going on to spell "pedestal" as "peddle stool" like we're all a bunch of poo traders.

Is English not your first language? You clearly don't understand words like "tangible" or "verifiable" or concepts like "cognitive dissonance"...so I'm just curious what the impediment to conversation is here. Are you very young?
 
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It's hard these days Belk...it's the certainty with which that sentence was constructed...

It's like I can imagine him sitting there thinking, "these fools have set themselves up upon a bunch of peddle stools and I'm gonna let them know!"....

And I literally, just a couple posts ago, told him, "hey, you don't seem to understand the meaning of these words you're using..."

Yet, with the confidence of a sleepwalker...he just steps right back in it.

Someone's peddling stool here alright...
 
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LOL
 
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If I can draw again the statement that you are not accountable to every animal, right? So why do you think that you are on par with God if your end, as a finite mortal man, will one day go to his grave just like other mortal men.

But animals are not told to worship us. We demand nothing of them.
 
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We don't claim to be their god, love every hair on their heads, or offer them eternal life if only they worship us. They can see, feel and touch us, The comparison is so wrong on so many levels.
 
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Your argument is from a position of ignorance and this is a logical fallacy.

I'll just stop you here since I already know what a "argument from ignorance" is and I haven't said that you're wrong because you haven't proven yourself correct...I say that you're wrong because you are wrong.


I can, and do dismiss them. If you must know, I've asked christian (many in fact) about their personal experiences with god...and they are not the same. What can one conclude except that they did not have the same experiences?

I even created a thread on the topic just for people like yourself. If you want, I'm sure I can provide a link. You can read over the experiences of many people and see for yourself that not only are they not the same...they are wildly different.



You're still using "tangible" wrong.


Please stop abusing the bold button.

You can make the same argument from popularity over and over...but it's still a fallacy. It wouldn't matter if the entire world except for myself believed specifically in your god...it wouldn't make them correct.



You're using "verifiable" wrong. You can't verify anyone's account of god...even your own.

How can you flip flop on your own constructive cognition in evidentiary gathering when it comes to the billions of independent Christian witnesses?

You have a high and almighty double standard when it comes to Christainity? Why I said it so?

You're using "dissonance" wrong...but it is amusing so I'm not going to try and educate you on it.

You never apply it consistently, because you continue to feed dissonance into the equation, in order to maintain your rigid preconceived cognition about the none existence of God.

Apply what consistently?


The independent experiences of billions of Christians throughout the last 2000 are verifiable and corroborative.

They are neither verifiable nor corroborative. I'd also add that you have no clue what the experiences of billions are or were...and that is fact.


It all depends upon what I'm being asked to believe...and the method of understanding which is being used. If it's a matter of science...I understand something about how that knowledge was gained. The same can be said of many fields of knowledge.

When it comes to the claims of a mere religion though...I have no real clue how you arrived at your beliefs. It could be a multitude of ways...it could be pure imagination. All I know for certain is that you won't be able to provide any proof or evidence of your beliefs and that you'll get very emotional about them.

Neither of those things increase my confidence that your beliefs are true.





See above...it's all going to depend upon the claim and the methodology behind it.

As a general rule though, no...when someone tells you easy, unverified answers to all of life's questions, and then ties them together with some rules about how you should be, and then tells you just to believe them or something awful will eventually happen to you lol....no, as a general rule I'd say do not believe that person.

In Christianity, the multitude who are having a real and tangible experience with Jesus Christ

Not tangible...I can start a thread if you like asking if people ever touched Jesus Christ...I don't think many christians will claim that. I don't think you understand what tangible means. The dictionary is your friend.

are testifying it directly as primary's witnesses, who have been touched by Jesus and have been there by experiencing God first hand.

I'm gonna disagree on that. I've asked a lot of christians about their experiences with god...absolutely none ever claimed to touch him physically.


Dismissed!
Because it is a false, fake and phony assertion.

Is that all it takes to dismiss an assertion now?!?

Then you are Dismissed!!! You've written false phony assertions!!!



When we use the word "tangible" yes...we are specifically talking about the sense of touch. The physical sense of touch. That's what "tangible" refers to...to use it any other way is a mistake.

You too have roll models

You mean "role models" right? Were you home schooled or something?

I'm serious...what's going on with you?

in all aspects of life that give you inspiration, whether you like the arts, sciences or theatre, you have been touched by people you know not from a five sense point of view,

Even if I were to say that I was "touched" by them...I wouldn't say that "my experiences with them are tangible" because I can't physically touch them. That's what tangible means.

We need to stop now because we are at an impasse. I need to know if you're aware that...

1. Words have meanings.
2. If you just make up meanings for words that already have meanings...no one knows what you're talking about.
3. Communication is dependent upon our ability to understand one another.

Do you understand these three points? They're not up for debate. I'm only bringing them up because you seem to want to invent your own definition for "tangible" here...and it's not gonna happen.


See above...

I didn't invent the word tangible...but I do use it correctly. All those things that you mentioned are not tangible. Look the word up.....please...before you continue to embarrass yourself.



Probably because they didn't believe in him either...or he flat out didn't exist. Regardless...

Cognitive dissonance is a form of psychological distress that comes from holding conflicting ideas/beliefs/opinions. For example, if one believes that god knows the future...and that they have free will...that person may experience cognitive dissonance when trying to resolve those two beliefs.

Since you really don't have a clue what I believe...all of your claims of cognitive dissonance are baseless and empty.


I tried it...nothing happened...do you feel better now?

Why Christians do what they do, even after what became of them in the Bolshevik Revolution is because they have been touched by the Jewish Messiah who loves Jews and wants them back on his side and by his side.

I see....are you Russian or something? It would explain a lot.
 
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