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OR, someone else , not them, may have been wrong.
That would be called self-righteousness,
or vanity ,
also.
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OR, someone else , not them, may have been wrong.even when they were blatantly wrong. That's called self-righteousness.
What's your point in bringing this up with me?OR, someone else , not them, may have been wrong.
That would be called self-righteousness,
or vanity ,
also.
.
Again, I offer you this one precious clue...you cannot go literal. Jesus shows us this when He points out the representations of the stars and the candlesticks in the introduction.
The beast does not stop people from buying and selling
I don't remember now.....What's your point in bringing this up with me?
Backwards - the mark is required to be accepted by a person, before they are allowed to buy or sell.The beast does not stop people from buying and selling, he, leaves them with the mark if the do buy and sell.
You are obviously not trying to follow what I have explained. True Christians do not receive the mark of the beast...true Christians buy but do not sell their faith (and again that is a manner of speaking).??
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So then we can insert that anywhere we feel like it.
So then everywhere it says that the beast does do that -- we just insert "not" in front of it??
So then we "join the beast" in that "not sell" ??
That looks like a lot of creative writing.
I know you may be quite learned, but such folks still offer an explanation for their "well grounded" and "hard and fast" beliefs...please do so.An actual precious clue is knowing the difference between what's literal and what is symbolic. The buying and selling in Rev 13 is literal and has to do with commerce.
Revelation is basically a summary of the faith.
There need be no description of some buying and selling faith for it to be so,
The beast does not stop people from buying and selling
As Christians we only buy from Christ that pure gold He speaks of here in Revelation and we do not sell it, must not sell
You are obviously not trying to follow what I have explained.
Backwards - the mark is required to be accepted by a person, before they are allowed to buy or sell.
This has nothing to do with the mark.true Christians buy but do not sell their faith (and again that is a manner of speaking).
It was much better before you admitted this.BTW, I did come upon my interpretation independent of any human help and at that time compared it to our church interpretation and almost identical.
true Christians buy but do not sell their faith (and again that is a manner of speaking).
It is not a new interpretation it is ages old and passed down...how about your interpretation? how did you come upon it?
Again, this is a manner of speaking or as Proverbs puts it one of the "sayings of the wise"...same thing. Jesus, all-wise, says...I counsel you to buy from me gold refined in the fire, so you can become rich (Revelation 3:18) I have repeatedly tried to make myself clear on this point, but it escapes you. Do you understand what He is saying there...tie it in with Psalms and Proverbs.True Christians buy their faith? Unbelievable.
Who said Revelation is literal? Where is this written. Scripture is rich in symbolism.It is error to "interpret" literal things. You said, "The beast does not stop people from buying and selling" and that was wrong. You claim Christians buy their faith. That's wrong. Time to rethink everything you believe about Revelation etc.
BTW, I knew this to be an almost fruitless endeavor, but God does work through His Word and in His own time...none of you really agree and it all appears to be a big guessing game on your parts. The guesses are from your own minds, not Scripture.Who said Revelation is literal? Where is this written. Scripture is rich in symbolism.
Again, this is a manner of speaking or as Proverbs puts it one of the "sayings of the wise"...same thing. Jesus, all-wise, says...I counsel you to buy from me gold refined in the fire, so you can become rich (Revelation 3:18) I have repeatedly tried to make myself clear on this point, but it escapes you. Do you understand what He is saying there...tie it in with Psalms and Proverbs.
Who said Revelation is literal?
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