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What do you think about Emo's?

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When I was young no one talked about Emo's, but I have noticed that youth these days talk a lot about this. All I know is that Emo really is some sort of music style and that people that like this music also like a certain style when it comes to clothing. But I have also noticed that these people are really unpopular to many, apparently because they have psychological problems. And if someone have problems like that, then they get called Emo's, even if they don't have this taste about music or clothing, and everyone hate them. It do certainly seem very cruel, and I am glad I am not growing up as a teenager today, since it seem very brutal to hate people that have psychological problems.
 

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I hate cutting and everything that encourages cutting.

Do you mean that you hate people that suffers from self-injury?

Who encourages self-injury? I don't think I've ever seen anyone do that.

And what do self-injury got to do with Emo's?
 
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I can't help but feel that people into the emo culture are so positive that no one understands them that they go out of their way to be un-understandable... or something. Either way, I'm sure they're great people that just need a decent chance to make some good friends that aren't perpetually depressed.
 
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Cutting is a mainstay of the emo subculture. The music encourages it.

I had to deal with a cutter once, she wasn't emo, but still. I will never deal with another cutter again.

OK, it doesn't sound healthy with music that encourages self-injury.

I don't understand what you mean to "deal with", do you mean that you had a friend or something that self injured herself? And you never want more friends like that?
 
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OK, it doesn't sound healthy with music that encourages self-injury.

I don't understand what you mean to "deal with", do you mean that you had a friend or something that self injured herself? And you never want more friends like that?

I feel reluctant to describe her as a friend, as I was a friend to her but she wasn't a friend to me. But yeah.
 
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I will now describe 'emo' in a nutshell: depressed bisexual half-goth cutter.

That's about it.

most emos are psychologically healthy people who just like to rebel from the norm in appearance or taste in music/movies. same deal with goths.
Goths are more real than emos. One thing I do when I'm getting food at the local mall is I people watch and the difference between emos and goths is that emos are people that don't have the psychological scars or angst needed to be goth. The goths have a reason to be depressed, the emos are just overdramatic.


I hate to say it, but emo is the new hippy. Hippies rebelled against society, punks rebelled, goths rebelled and now it is emos that are doing the rebelling.

The only real differences I see between goths and emos (aside from the above mentioned angst) is that emos sometimes cut themselves and have a serious problem with sexual identity. Emo guys look like girls and even looking around 'normal' people, it's becoming popular for guys to look like women with their tight pants, piercings and having a distorted sense of sexual identity. In that regard emo rebellion has been sucessful.
 
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I am getting the impression that people that suffer from depressions, self-injury and/or is suicidal are considered Emo's, or have I misunderstood somewhere?

I can't see the connection between the clothing and the music style, and these mental problems.

I feel reluctant to describe her as a friend, as I was a friend to her but she wasn't a friend to me. But yeah.

If the girl was so depressed that she injured herself then it is likely that she might have seemed to not care about you, but probably this had to do with that she had no feeling of joy from anything, including friends, but saw everything as something black and meaningless.

But I don't know the full story. But I know that those that suffer from something like that probably need someone that care, more then others.
 
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I will now describe 'emo' in a nutshell: depressed bisexual half-goth cutter.

That's about it.


Goths are more real than emos. One thing I do when I'm getting food at the local mall is I people watch and the difference between emos and goths is that emos are people that don't have the psychological scars or angst needed to be goth. The goths have a reason to be depressed, the emos are just overdramatic.


I hate to say it, but emo is the new hippy. Hippies rebelled against society, punks rebelled, goths rebelled and now it is emos that are doing the rebelling.

The only real differences I see between goths and emos (aside from the above mentioned angst) is that emos sometimes cut themselves and have a serious problem with sexual identity. Emo guys look like girls and even looking around 'normal' people, it's becoming popular for guys to look like women with their tight pants, piercings and having a distorted sense of sexual identity. In that regard emo rebellion has been sucessful.

I've never met any goths or emos, not even sure if I've seen any, even if I live in a fairly large city. Black-metal people are more dominant here, and they are usually not depressed or bisexual, but more like harmless nerds that like comic books and junk food etc. But why do people hate the emos? Problems with things like depressions, self-injury and sexual identity doesent sounds like something I would hate a person for. Have the youths become more cold and careless? I remember when I were young, if someone had problems with mental illnesses, then the other kids would try to comfort them usually.
 
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I am getting the impression that people that suffer from depressions, self-injury and/or is suicidal are considered Emo's, or have I misunderstood somewhere?

I can't see the connection between the clothing and the music style, and these mental problems.
Because the music encourages not only depression, but embracing the depression. I got depressed too when I was a teenager, and I listened to alternative back then which had some pretty depressing lyrics, but emo takes it to a whole new level.

If the girl was so depressed that she injured herself then it is likely that she might have seemed to not care about you, but probably this had to do with that she had no feeling of joy from anything, including friends, but saw everything as something black and meaningless.

But I don't know the full story. But I know that those that suffer from something like that probably need someone that care, more then others.
No, this was the kind of person who burned through professional counselors like you wouldn't believe. She used people's compassion, I wasn't the only person she did this to. At the same time.
 
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"Emo" means "emotion". Emo's are 99.9% teenagers; most of them have dysfunctional families and revel in their unhappiness. It's a culture of misery.

I think the fact that we have an "emo" culture at all, speaks as a sign of the times, and is tragic and very sad.
 
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Because the music encourages not only depression, but embracing the depression. I got depressed too when I was a teenager, and I listened to alternative back then which had some pretty depressing lyrics, but emo takes it to a whole new level.
OK, I don't think I have heard any music like that. I used to listen to Radiohead sometimes many years ago, and it was pretty depressing, not sure it embraced it though. Is it that kind of music?

No, this was the kind of person who burned through professional counselors like you wouldn't believe. She used people's compassion, I wasn't the only person she did this to. At the same time.
I sounds like a person like I feel like sometimes. I've had many psychologists that haven't been able to cure me, and on this forum there is so many people that have tried to cheer me up when I've been down, and it has really helped me at those times, but that doesn't mean that I won't be depressed again, since it is a part of being bipolar, I've been depressed since childhood and need medication to not get suicidal, nearly killed myself some years ago, before I started on the mood-stabilizers. I had some bad experiences as a child and as I grew up, and I am not sure if I ever will be feeling "cured".

So maybe it was something the same with your friend. I know that my father and my brother think that I am just lazy or something because I don't work, but they only know the surface of me.
 
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I've never met any goths or emos, not even sure if I've seen any, even if I live in a fairly large city. Black-metal people are more dominant here, and they are usually not depressed or bisexual, but more like harmless nerds that like comic books and junk food etc. But why do people hate the emos? Problems with things like depressions, self-injury and sexual identity doesent sounds like something I would hate a person for. Have the youths become more cold and careless? I remember when I were young, if someone had problems with mental illnesses, then the other kids would try to comfort them usually.
Yes, the kids have become cold and careless.

In Seattle, there was a man known as the "Tuba Man" who dressed as Uncle Sam and played a tube. He would play this tuba outside of the sports stadiums, the opera and things of that nature. He wasn't rich or crazy, but he was just a guy over his thirties who wanted to make people happy. Unfortunately, he was killed a few months ago by none other than... teenagers.

Even in my old high school people were given nothing but absolute hell. The only exceptions were someone who had a relative die or someone who was physically abused by those around them.

Of the emos that I've seen and occasionally spoken with, they are just depressed over silly things. Things like "I never got a pony for Christmas when I was a little kid so I'm going to dwell and let that fact kill me and my entire life".

High school overdrama on steroids really. The newest corruption of society.

Give it another five maybe seven years. It'll die out.
 
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The "look" is overdone. It's annoying how cutting edge [no pun intended] they think they are and look, when in fact, every last one looks like they just stepped out of a Hot Topic or Torrid catalog. I'll take rabid Aberzombie style over the pretentious emo look anyday.

Emo music itself doesn't particularly annoy me.
 
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Although I've always dressed fairly conservatively, I'll admit that I kind of like the punk/goth look. I was friendly with a few people in those subcultures back in the day. Emo's seem superficially similar in a way. Who cares if they listen to emotional music, conform to their own group standards, and dress to express how they feel? I'll bet for every emo that has a true disability, there are at least 10 that don't. As long as they aren't actually harming themselves, I say leave them alone. The few who are should get professional help. Rather than picking on them, people should pick them up... maybe help them smile... show them that life doesn't have to be miserable etc.
 
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