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What do you think? 6th grade girls required to be vaccaniated for HPV.

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Ahhhhhh! I still don't know how I feel about this vaccine let alone having the government require it for my girls. But I think the thing that really bugs me about this specific situation is the greed involved. It doesn't sound like it is really about the safety and health of women but about a pharmacuetical company making more money!
 
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I actually have my reservations about this one. HPV is sexually transmitted, do the girls really have to be vaccinated this early? That decision should be left up to the parents. Besides, we might be smart for thinking ahead, but shouldnt we really stress on abstainence? Getting the girls vaccinated is alot like passing out free condoms in middle school, imo. Definitely going too far.
 
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I think it's a good thing and I'm going to be vaccinated as soon as I can because if there's something to prevent me from getting HPV and cervical cancer later on the down the road in life then I'm all for it even though I'm not sexually active. But it's really the parents decision when it comes down to it.
 
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I have a HUGE problem with this. The other required vaccines, I can see why they are required. This one, I do believe the Texas government (I think that is the state which is requiring it so far) is overstepping the line. Where is the longitudinal research. Also, I heard insurance companies are not covering it. How can they make something mandatory if people can't afford it and insurance companies don't cover it. I heard it was around $150.
 
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I get very nervous around the word "required," but I have no problem otherwise. You need to get the vaccine before you begin having sexual contact in order for it to be effective--that's why it should be done so young. Not so that they can run right out and have sex, but because it's during a time when they shouldn't be having it, and when the right time does come they'll be protected from the start.

And, rough as it is to think about, not all sexual contact is consentual. I have been seriously considering getting it myself, even though I am not sexually active and probably won't be for a long time, simply because I belong to a social class that is particularly likely to be sexually assaulted.

Also, for the most part, I am strongly in favor of using natural consequences as a form of discipline--you refuse to wear a coat, you get cold; you break something, you pay for it. But, it is just not appropriate if the consequences are potentially fatal, the child is not able to fully appreciate them, and the parent has the ability to prevent them.
Sure, if nature is allowed to take it's course, the natural consequences of sneaking off to play in the pool alone is that you might drown. That's not a consequence I would "use" though. If I see it happening, I will prevent it.
Likewise, the natural consequence of unprotected sex is that you might contract STD's and, in this case, die of cancer many years down the line. That's another consequence I won't be using. Given the ability to prevent it, I will.

And besides all that, there's no reason the girl would have to know which vaccine they're getting, or the exact cause and nature of the disease.

Heck, I still don't really know what mumps and rubella are...except that I probably won't get them.

I see no reason why it shouldn't be treated the same way as Hep B (also an STD) vaccines--which my school required around this age. We actually got them in school, in the teachers' lounge. I don't think anybody was made more likely to run out and have sex, or get amature tattoos simply because they were vaccinated against a likely consequence.

Think about the vaccines you have right now:
Does having a Hep B vaccine compromise your own sense of sexual morality?
Does having a tetanus vaccine compromise the care you take with sharp, rusty objects?
Does having a safety net make a tightrope walker more likely to fall?
 
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The word "required" bothers me too. I wonder if there are any side effects from the vaccine that might show up later down the line. ALSO, just a thought on this...if the virus is sexually transmitted and "it takes two to tango" why are young males not "required" to take it so that when they "tango" they don't catch it & spread it around ? Also, our local newspaper said the "shot" series is about $360 ...the shot must be given/taken 3 times...according to the article I read.
 
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.if the virus is sexually transmitted and "it takes two to tango" why are young males not "required" to take it so that when they "tango" they don't catch it & spread it around ?

That occured to me too, while I was writing. Disturbing, isn't it?
 
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Absolutely NO. There is no way I would let one of my girls get this vax.

Gardasil only "protects" against 4 of the 19 strains of HPV. It's not been thoroughly tested, it got pushed through the FDA by Merck, who is Funding this. Ads on TV have fueled fear in women and not given a whole lot of information. Gov. Rick Perry (Texas) pushed this through in Texas Without consent of the legislature.

Perry has already received $6000 from Merck. If other states pass this also, Merck is going to generate BILLIONS of dollars. Each shot is given in a series of 3, costing $360.

This has nothing to do with public safety and protecting women from cervical cancer, it Everything to do with making Merck GOBS of money.
 
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Here is an article about the side effects of Gardasil:
http://www.washingtontimes.com:80/business/20070202-100152-9747r.htm

Here is some more info:

According to Merck's product insert, there was 1 case of juvenile arthritis, 2 cases of rheumatoid arthritis, 5 cases of arthritis, and 1 case of reactive arthritis in 11,813 Gardasil recipients plus 1 case of lupus and 2 cases of arthritis out of 9,701 participants primarily receiving an aluminum containing placebo. Clinical trial investigators dismissed most of the 102 Gardasil and placebo associated serious adverse events, including 17 deaths, that occurred in the clinical trials as unrelated.

"There is too little long term safety and efficacy data, especially in young girls, and too little labeling information on contraindications for the CDC to recommend Gardasil for universal use, which is a signal for states to mandate it," says Barbara Fisher. "Nobody at Merck, the CDC or FDA know if the injection of Gardasil into all pre-teen girls – especially simultaneously with hepatitis B vaccine - will make some of them more likely to develop arthritis or other inflammatory autoimmune and brain disorders as teenagers and adults. With cervical cancer causing about one percent of all cancer deaths in American women due to routine pap screening, it was inappropriate for the FDA to fast track Gardasil. It is way too early to direct all young girls to get three doses of a vaccine that has not been proven safe or effective in their age group."

Fifteen women in the Gardasil group and 16 in the placebo group gave birth to babies with abnormalities. Five of the babies were conceived by women 1 month after they received the vaccine. The rest were conceived by women after 1 month of injection with Gardasil. In the same report, Gardasil was also found to cause an increase in abnormal/precancerous cells in the cervix. It doesn't take rocket science to intelligently translate that into an increased risk for cervical cancer. __._,_.___
 
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I don't think this should be mandatory. I also do not think enough is known about this vaccine yet. If my daughter were this age, I wouldn't want her to have it...at least not yet. I'll be watching for side effects. For some reason, I have a bad feeling about this vaccine. I'm not sure why because I am very pro vaccine but, for now, just thankful it's not an issue in our home.

just want to add, while I do have reservations about this vaccine, I do think the concept is good. Thousands of women die yearly as a result of cervical cancer and nearly 100% of all cervical cancer cases are due to HPV. This vaccine protects against the HPV strains that will most likely cause cervical cancer. So I do believe the idea is good. I am just not feeling that great about the vaccine they have right now. It has nothing to do with whether or child will refrain from sex until marriage. The question is will their future spouse. If either your spouse or yourself has had more than one partner, your chances of having HPV skyrocket.
 
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Gardasil only "protects" against 4 of the 19 strains of HPV.

True, but to be fair, those 4 casue about 70% of the cervical cancer.

ALSO, just a thought on this...if the virus is sexually transmitted and "it takes two to tango" why are young males not "required" to take it so that when they "tango" they don't catch it & spread it around ? Also, our local newspaper said the "shot" series is about $360 ...the shot must be given/taken 3 times...according to the article I read.

Yes, 3 shots are required and it is not know how much protection one receives if one only has one or two of the shots.

They have tested it on men, but it does not have any effect.
 
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