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What do you see masturbating as? Sin? Sorry about all the topics you must have!

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Well. As I am sure you all must have heard a lot about this...

masturbating


What do you guys think about this?

Theres so so so many people that do it...

Here are somethings people have said:

Well, since I'm not a guy, I have nothing to "spill on the ground".

I doubt that much attention is paid - there are much bigger crimes going on out there in the world.



That was not Onan's sin. His sin was DISOBEDIENCE, and had nothing do do with masturbation, which was only incidental to the disobedience.

There is no reason to think that God would have any problem with masturbation. Nothing in the Bible indicates that.

God only gets mad when we disobey God. In the case where someone (bible person) spilt seed to prevent pregnancy, God specifically told someone to impregnate.


No, I don't think God is mad at all about any form of pleasure!


What do you guys think about it? I am catholic.


Well if masturbating IS a sin.

What will happen to you if you do it? Will your life be very bad?

Will someone very close to me split up, if I do masturbating?

Thanks for any help.
 

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My knowledge on the subject can in part be found at this link:

http://www.christianforums.com/t554...ou-touch-without-lust-nothing-goes-wrong.html

Essentially, if you can touch and nothing goes wrong, I do not think you can call it a sin because the only way for that to happen is without lust. If something does go wrong, I think there is sin (whether it leads to death or not is another question).
 
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My knowledge on the subject can in part be found at this link:

http://www.christianforums.com/t554...ou-touch-without-lust-nothing-goes-wrong.html

Essentially, if you can touch and nothing goes wrong, I do not think you can call it a sin because the only way for that to happen is without lust. If something does go wrong, I think there is sin (whether it leads to death or not is another question).
what exactly is "goes wrong"?
 
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The Catholic Church says that masturbation is a mortal sin, lusting or not.

Any sexual activites, outside of vaginal sex in a marriage with the use of contraception, are considered sexual sins, and they consider all sexual sins mortal sins.

What will happen if you do it? I don't know. Since it is a mortal sin, I believe the Catholic stance is that you go to hell if you die without it unrepented, but as for my personal views, I don't know.

Will someone close to you split up if you do it? I'm not sure what you are talking about...God doesn't always punish us for our sins in this life. I'm sure masturbating won't affect anything aroung you, just inside of you.
 
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First of all, I understand that the comment I am about to make does not philosophically address the issue, but as far as I'm concerned it addresses the spirituality of it. We, as Christians, often ask "is this wrong," "is it a sin for me to," and so forth...that is fine and well, but we are working backwards...if we are truly believers. As believers, and thus FOLLOWERS of Christ, we should be seeking to grow continually closer to Him, not simply avoid closer and closer adherence to the world and the doctrines of it established by the prince and power of the air. We should be seeking to glorify Christ, and this process includes our bodies, being Paul tells us that the believer's body has now become the chosen dwelling place of the Holy Spirit. If we began sifting through our lives by asking the question, "Does this glorify my Father?," rather than asking, "Is this tearing me farther from my Father?" I think we will find many of these "gray" areas become much clearer. "Whether you eat, drink or whatever you do, do it all for the glory of God." Paul states in

Romans 6:12-14 (NAS)
"Therefore do not let sin reign in your mortal body so that you obey its lusts, and do not go on presenting the members of your body to sin as instruments of unrighteousness; but present yourselves to God as those alive from the dead and your members as instruments of righteousness to God. For sin shall not be master over you, for you are not under law but under grace."

So the questions a believer should ask themselves concerning masturbation then become this...

"Does this action honor the Lord?"
"Am I enslaved to this action?" (or is it habitual, do i feel it necessary, however you want to word it.)

If as a believer I realize that the answer to the first is no and/or the answer to the second is yes then I know I am in sin, because I am not supposed to be slave to anything, but Christ and I am held to a higher standard as a believer which James words like this...(4:17)

"Therefore, to one who knows the right thing to do and does not do it, to him it is sin."

And while I am sure I will hear disagreement concerning this view, I believe that what Paul states in 1 Corinthians 6:18-20 could be made into a case concerning sexual self-gratification...

"Flee immorality. Every other sin that a man commits is outside the body, but the immoral man sins against his own body. Or do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit who is in you, whom you have from God, and that you are not your own? For you have been bought with a price; therefore glorify God in your body."

(the last part of that "glorify God in your body" is obviously what I was eluding to earlier and confirms my earlier point about what our focus should be as a believer.)

Anyway, hopefully that helps you with your question.
I'd love to hear any feedback or rebuttle.

Much love in Christ!
 
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First of all, I understand that the comment I am about to make does not philosophically address the issue, but as far as I'm concerned it addresses the spirituality of it. We, as Christians, often ask "is this wrong," "is it a sin for me to," and so forth...that is fine and well, but we are working backwards...if we are truly believers. As believers, and thus FOLLOWERS of Christ, we should be seeking to grow continually closer to Him, not simply avoid closer and closer adherence to the world and the doctrines of it established by the prince and power of the air. We should be seeking to glorify Christ, and this process includes our bodies, being Paul tells us that the believer's body has now become the chosen dwelling place of the Holy Spirit. If we began sifting through our lives by asking the question, "Does this glorify my Father?," rather than asking, "Is this tearing me father from my Father?" I think we will find many of these "gray" areas become much clearer. "Whether you eat, drink or whatever you do, do it all for the glory of God." Paul states in

Romans 6:12-14 (NAS)
"Therefore do not let sin reign in your mortal body so that you obey its lusts, and do not go on presenting the members of your body to sin as instruments of unrighteousness; but present yourselves to God as those alive from the ead and your members as instruments of righteousness to God. For sin shall not be master over you, for you are not under law but under grace."

So the questions a believer should ask themselves concerning an action then become this concerning masturbation...

"Does this action honor the Lord?"
"Am I enslaved to this action?" (or is it habitual, do i feel it necessary, however you want to word it.)

If as a believer I realize that the answer to the first is no and/or the answer to the second is yes then I know I am in sin, because I am not supposed to be slave to anything, but Christ and I am held to a higher standard as a believer which James words like this...(4:17)
"Therefore, to one who konws the right thing to do and does not do it, to him it is sin."

And while I am sure I will hear disagreement concerning this view, I believe that what Paul states in 1 Corinthians 6:18-20 could be made into a case concerning sexual self-gratification...

"Flee immorality. Every other sin tha ta man commits is outside the body, but the immoral man sins against his own body. Or do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit who is in you, whom you have from God, and that you are not your own? For you have been bought with a price; therefore glorify God in your body."

(the last part of that "glorify God in your body" is obviously what I was eluding to earlier and confirms my earlier point about what our focus should be as a believer.)

Anyway, hopefully that helps you with your question.
I'd love to hear any feedback or rebuttle.

Much love in Christ!


Excellent, BWP! :clap:
 
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It would depend on the context of the touching yourself. touching yourself between a married couple, assuming that your spouse is the object of your fantasy and that both are comfortable with it, would not be sin. However, somebody lusting after a person they are not married to would be sin making it inappropriate for a single person. We certainly be forgiven for it.
 
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Masturbation is ot a sin. The Bible has done an excellent job of making clear actions that are sinful, of given us principles that, when applied, make it clear something is a sin.

There is no verse that even discusses masturbation. There is no passage that discusses the "sin" of self gratification. Onan was not masturbating; Onan was having sexual relations.

Masturbation can become a sin, as can any activity taken to excess, but it is not inherently sinful.

Yes, someone might leave you because of this. YOu read some of the posts - "filthy" "disgustng" and some believe it is a sin. Someone who felt that way might leave someone who admits to masturbation. I consider that a good thing: better to discover this difference of opinion before the marriage.
 
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