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What do you see in this scripture.

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Rev 17:8 The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition: and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is.
 

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Rev 17:8 The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition: and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is.

It is the same sign given in the death and resurrection of Jesus.

Revelation 1:8 The Lord which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.

But keep in mind Jesus was also given as a sign for many in Israel.

Luke 2:34

King James Version (KJV)

34And Simeon blessed them, and said unto Mary his mother, Behold, this child is set for the fall and rising again of many in Israel; and for a sign which shall be spoken against;

This is confirmed in Romans 11:15;"For if the casting away of them be the reconciling of the world, what shall the recieving of them be, but life from the dead."

Israel recieved a head wound from the sword of the Lord(Word of God), but that deadly wound was to be healed.:thumbsup:
 
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In what way do you consider Israel to be the beast.

Israel is not the whole beast as seen in Revelation, but it is part of the beast being one of the heads that was wounded to death, but his deadly wound was healed. (Rev. 13:3)

The whole beast is made up of all nations, but it recieves its power from the red dragon.

The power of the red dragon is the nature of the beast, it is the nature of the firstborn man, which is earthly.

Learn the nature of the beast.

Jeremiah 31:27
Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will sow the house of Israel and the house of Judah with the seed of man, and with the seed of beast.
 
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I have see this, and I have seen the abomination that makes desolate as Job did, Elihu breaking the face of his covering, a turning, even his daughters recieveing an inheritance among the sons, but he has the same wife. Adam, the woman's covering, her perception was before the cross, is not because of the cross but yet is, a salvation that is yet with sin. The book of Revelation to me has become a book within. Just as the temptation of Jesus in the wilderness was for Him and as the book of Job was within Job. Job could have freely eaten of any tree of the garden but he choose knowlegde.
 
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The mark of the beast is the fleshy nature in the firstborn state of man which is earthly and carnally minded.

The name Adam means earthly and red.
Esau the firstborn came out red.
The heifer to be sacrificed for the abomination is red.
The dragon that gives power to the beast is red.
The beast the woman sits upon is red.

The man of sin is the first born nature in man which is flesh, which also shall go into destruction.(son of perdition.)

Here is a post I wrote a while back on the man of sin.


In 2 Thessalonians 2:3 we are told before the coming of the Lord there is to first come a falling away, and that man of sin shall be revealed. This falling away point pertains to the fullness of the Gentiles, but who is the man of sin? If we go back to Genesis 1:27 we see in the beginning God created man in his own image. We know by scripture that God is a spirit, and that he is the invisible God. So we know, and understand by this that God was not talking about an outward image, but rather an inward image.

Jesus told us to be perfect, just as your Father in heaven is perfect. So by this we see, in the beginning man was created in the image of a perfect God. With that let us go to Ezekiel 28:15 where the Lord is speaking to the evil one himself. The Lord said; " Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou was created, till iniquity was found in thee. So who is the Lord talking to in this manner?

If you go back to verse 13 we see this man was in the Garden of Eden. Now some might think this is refering to Satan, but if you go back to Ezekiel 28:2 we see the Lord refers to him as a man. The Lord tells this man, because his heart is lifted up, he has said I am a god, I sit in the seat of God. Meaning because of mans pride he has lifted up his heart against the Word of God, and has put his own ideas in the place of Gods Word. And this is just what the serpent told the man in the beginning; that he would be like God if he ate from the tree of knowledge.

This sitting in the seat of God means he has put himself in the place of God. And if we go back to 2 Thessalonians 2:4 we see this man of sin would exalt himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sits in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God. So what is the temple of God? In 1 Corithians 3:16 we see that we (our bodies) are the temple of God. And we see in 1 Corinthians 6:19 that our body is to be the temple of the Holy Spirit, which is made for God to dwell in.

Also in 2 Corinthians 6:16 we see the Lord said he would dwell in this temple of our body. But we are also told in 1 Corinthians 3:17 that if any man defiles this temple,him shall God destroy. So in the beginning God gave us this temple, or Body, so that He might dwell in all his children. But the fleshy nature of man decided he knew better than God, and so then the iniquity entered, and man set himself up in the place of God.

We know by Romans 5:12 that by this first man Adam sin entered in, and by this sin came death; and this first sinful nature was passed on to all men. So we see the first state of man is to born to the flesh, that is to say he is carnally minded. It is written; to be carnally minded is death, but to be spiritually minded is life and peace. Jesus said; that which is born of flesh is flesh, and that which is born of Spirit is spirit. Showing how the first man is born flesh, but the born again man is made spiritual by way of God's Holy Spirit.

In Genesis 6:3 the Lord said; my Spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh. It is this fleshy spirit that rules in the first-born man. For in Galations 5:17 we see the flesh lusts against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh. So the Lord showed us in the story Noah and the flood, and the story of the Exodus from Egypt, how all the firstborn, and all those who are born of the flesh must die.

That is also why Jesus said;flesh and blood shall not inherit the kingdom of God. And that is also why he said that except a man be born again of the Spirit, he shall not enter into the Kingdom of Heaven. The Lord showed over and over in scripture how the first-born fleshy state of man would not be accepted of God. Just as with Esau, who sold out his birthright to feed his own fleshy desire. Just as Judas, who was a sign of that son of perdition, would also sell out the Word of God made flesh for his own personal gain.

So we see in all these examples the Lord has given us how all those who are still living in the flesh, which is the spirit of this world; shall also perish.

For instead of accepting the knowledge that only comes from God by faith in his Word, they have gone about to set up themselves through their own carnal way of thinking. And the man-made fleshy church is no diffferent. In Mark 7:13 Jesus told those hypocrites of his day; " You have made the Word of God of none effect through your traditions."

Truly man has sold out the Truth over profits, and personal gain, and has even changed the Truth to justify himself in his own eyes. Truly they have turned the Fathers House into a den of thieves.

All those who are not anointed with the oil of the Holy Spirit, and are not washed in the blood, or wine of the Lamb of God, will go into destruction.



Romans 8:13; " For if you live after the flesh you shall die: but if through the Spirit do put to death the deeds of the body, you shall live.
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Yes, I see these trhings as well, Adam, the image and likeness was a liar from the beginning he could not abide in the Truth/Life befcause there was no Life or Truth in him, he was the accuser, good, evil both ram and badger skins. The seed of the woman is the the Life of the woman, just as the natural sun is the light of the moon. Things are becoming without dimesion to me. I find that I can eat of any tree of the garden. This is happening around me, I see men as trees. For me the manna has ceased, I no longer hear, I see and the things I see knowledge can not contain. If I touch it with knowledge or cast the Truth down between my ears it becomes a wandering. I see things in feasts yet without dimension, the gentiles as pentecost, they seek after knowledge, good, evel. Jews seek a sign, the sign is a virgin with child, virgins don't give birth they are delievered! I can no longer put into words what I see every day and I'm seeing at an accelerated pace. The gulf between between my Spirit/Christ and my soul/woman is getting measureably larger by the day. When I first tasted of the lord I seemed to hear more than those around me. Over the last thirty years I have heard much that most would give you the right foot of fellowship over. But things are changing, the voice of the bridegroom is in the land, He's calling us in. I have seen this in miraids of ways through scripture and all around me. At times the Truth, a seeing opens up to me and it's as if a universe explodes inside of me. This happens in the middle of the night when I wake up and multiple times throughout the day. The woman can not percieve these things, can not touch them, if she does they become as Cain and the building of a city. As a well driven nail. Jesus was given this kingdom, every thought, I am. The kingdom in Him was without observation. The guy who calmed the raging waters with a word then asked for the toilet paper to wipe his bum. Tabernacles is beginning, in us but if darkness does not become light to you, you don't see the abomination you can not flee or come out from among her.
 
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This is the man, the accuser of the woman, that they narrowly look upon and say he has weakened the nations. The nations, children, are thoughts. There is an outward manifestation of an inward thing, in is where he is leading us, out is merchandise. The fear of the king is as the roaring of a lion (seeking whom he may devour) the god of this world is Adam. He is the covering of our thoughts. when Jesus spoke to Jerusalem saying He would have gathered her children, He was reffering to our thoughts, gathering them all into One, The Father. Father is just a word, knowledge that delcares a Truth ...Truth. The word Father delcares a Truth that is past finding out, past knowledge, no dimension. This Kingdom is not of this world. The kingdom in us is I am anything less is a robber and a thief, adam, an image and a likeness. I am very excited for about what's getting ready to happen in the earth. I'm sure it will get a little ruff but we won't know it, we'll be like Enoch, he walked with God three hundred years, fulness. He lived three hundred and sixty five years. One year, Enoch's Jubilee. Enoch was not. When speaking about Jerusalem Jesus said your house is left to you desolate. This is a good thing. We do not labor, you labor for what you do not have, this is law, a working to something, a plaowing of the field or tilling of the ground. Adam, the beast that tills the field, knowledge. We are as He is. For us Adam has also tilled passover. "Sing, O barren, thou that didst not bear; break forth into singing, and cry aloud, thou that didst not travail with child: for more are the children of the desolate than the children of the married wife, saith the LORD. " The fruit of the womb, good and evil, knowledge, is the untimely figs. The casting of the stars are the casting of the leaves and also the breaking of the face of the covering that is casted over all the nations (thoughts) and over all the people. The Dragon (Adam) are the nations, seven heads, a rest that is brought about by works, law, labor, the mark of the beast, mark of Cain. I'm very excited, Life is about to swallow up death. The earth swallowed Abel now Abel is about to swallow the earth. In us. Two came out of the Garden only One returns.
 
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Israel recieved a head wound from the sword of the Lord(Word of God), but that deadly wound was to be healed.:thumbsup:


This opened up to me through Job and the seed of the woman and the seed of the serpent. They are the same Seed. How much larger Truth has become to me, this Truth of the One Father before the world was.
 
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