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<blockquote data-quote="Foundstone" data-source="post: 55278420" data-attributes="member: 265872"><p>Alright, wonderful. We're on the same page there. So I guess my next question is, since the concept of god is obviously more meaningful to you than the simple renaming of other concepts, what DO you mean by god. Is this concept something you can explain to me, or is it simply a feeling that I would have to have. I often suspect that the feeling of awe and wonder and connectedness that I often feel when I think about the big philosophical concepts of life and the universe could be the same feeling that other people call god, or take as evidence of god. In that case, there's no sense in pretending we believe different things, we just have different names for the same thing. But this feeling that I sometimes have doesn't quite seem like the christian god. It's exactly like you said razeontherock, it seems like god is just a way to take ideas and concepts that are already amazing and awe-inspiring and adding unnecessary metaphysical baggage by anthropomorphising them, or inventing stories to accompany them. You see, on some level I suspect that in most ways I have very much the same concepts and beliefs that many of you do, but there also seem to be enough important differences that I hesitate to identify myself as a christian, and I suspect that my beliefs as I stated them above are not enough in line with christian thought that you would call me one either. But I think that's exactly what makes this discussion interesting.</p><p></p><p>That's exactly the right question I think. I don't think I could tell you though. First you'd have to tell me what it means to be a christian. How would my beliefs about the world and reality have to change in order for me to be a christian? Why should I be interested in being a christian anyway? I imagine that the things that would persuade me to become a christian are the same things that persuaded you to become one; I think our brains are similar enough that they should be susceptible to the same feelings and reasoning. You see, if there's something you know that I don't, and because of this my world view is different from yours in important ways, then I think it's very important for me to try to understand your world view so that I can ensure I'm not "missing out on reality" as you put it in a earlier post, just because of my ignorance.</p><p></p><p>Thanks!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Foundstone, post: 55278420, member: 265872"] Alright, wonderful. We're on the same page there. So I guess my next question is, since the concept of god is obviously more meaningful to you than the simple renaming of other concepts, what DO you mean by god. Is this concept something you can explain to me, or is it simply a feeling that I would have to have. I often suspect that the feeling of awe and wonder and connectedness that I often feel when I think about the big philosophical concepts of life and the universe could be the same feeling that other people call god, or take as evidence of god. In that case, there's no sense in pretending we believe different things, we just have different names for the same thing. But this feeling that I sometimes have doesn't quite seem like the christian god. It's exactly like you said razeontherock, it seems like god is just a way to take ideas and concepts that are already amazing and awe-inspiring and adding unnecessary metaphysical baggage by anthropomorphising them, or inventing stories to accompany them. You see, on some level I suspect that in most ways I have very much the same concepts and beliefs that many of you do, but there also seem to be enough important differences that I hesitate to identify myself as a christian, and I suspect that my beliefs as I stated them above are not enough in line with christian thought that you would call me one either. But I think that's exactly what makes this discussion interesting. That's exactly the right question I think. I don't think I could tell you though. First you'd have to tell me what it means to be a christian. How would my beliefs about the world and reality have to change in order for me to be a christian? Why should I be interested in being a christian anyway? I imagine that the things that would persuade me to become a christian are the same things that persuaded you to become one; I think our brains are similar enough that they should be susceptible to the same feelings and reasoning. You see, if there's something you know that I don't, and because of this my world view is different from yours in important ways, then I think it's very important for me to try to understand your world view so that I can ensure I'm not "missing out on reality" as you put it in a earlier post, just because of my ignorance. Thanks! [/QUOTE]
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