Correct words, I support. Bearing the word of God is a great responsibility.If you wouldn't trust your physical health to someone who refuses to go to medical school, why would you trust your spiritual health to someone who refuses to go to seminary?
Not that I believe a seminary somehow makes someone magically a better pastor or minister; but Christ our God taught, "To whom much is given, much is expected." When we place a person into a position of guidance, leadership, and authority we are granting them a great deal of responsibility, and such a person should be held accountable to that responsibility.
The Church has always trained and taught ministers. Whether we are talking about the Apostles themselves who got the absolute best hands-on seminary training ever, directly from the Lord Jesus Himself; or to all the pastors and churchmen down through the centuries who learned and studied under those themselves who had been trained and studied in the Scriptures and the right teaching of he faith.
You wouldn't go to see a quack for medical help; you shouldn't seek the guidance of heretics, self-appointed teachers and preachers, false prophets, and other wolves.
Be firm in Christ, stand firm upon the faith, devote yourself to study. The Church calls and ordains ministers of the Gospel, faithful pastors of Christ's Flock--for the sake and good of the Faithful. Therefore, we ought to hold our ministers and leaders to high standards in doctrine, education, and in godliness. Not elevating them on pedestals, but holding their feet to the fire to keep them accountable.
-CryptoLutheran
I'm confused..Is a bible college different from church?
I'm not sure how this works..if you are studying at one or have studied in one can you share your experience? Are they good or bad?
Does God call you to one and how do you know which one to go to? Are there different denominations? Or are they just for people who grew up in religion, decide they want to be ministers because it runs in the family?
I'm curious because I'm not sure why some people would go to bible college if they didn't believe in God. I was reading this book by Phillip Yancey, which I found interesting because he said he went to a bible college but didn't have any faith. I don't know the whole story, or what he learned, or how he found faith, or exactly what his faith now is..
In the Bible it says the church is the priesthood of all believers - WE are priests. It also says we don't need man to teach us, the Holy Spirit teaches us. It is up to us to search the scriptures and study the Word prayerfully, we don't need to pay someone to help us do this. The Holy Spirit gives us gifts making us pastors, teachers, ministers, healers etc. It never says we have to go to a bible college to learn all this...all the apostles were empowered by the Holy Spirit, without him they could do nothing.
so..i'm not sure about bible colleges.
I don't agree with having to go to college at all to be a pastor or a rabbi or a christian school. To many people in todays world look up to pastors and etc for answers of the truths which are misinterpreted and passed down over tradition. I am not saying sunday churches are useless and dont serve a purpose. But that nobody can be more qualified to lead a church than what God ordains. Where in the bible did God send the apostles to college to learn how to teach the word? Jesus taught the apostles to go and make disciples not open up a college teaching the word.I'm confused..Is a bible college different from church?
I'm not sure how this works..if you are studying at one or have studied in one can you share your experience? Are they good or bad?
Does God call you to one and how do you know which one to go to? Are there different denominations? Or are they just for people who grew up in religion, decide they want to be ministers because it runs in the family?
Do they treat women differently from men? Do you have to be a certain age?
Is reading the Bible not enough and do you have to learn all about church history and theological arguments as well? Do they teach rituals and rites or is that only in catholic seminaries? Or are they practical?
I'm curious because I'm not sure why some people would go to bible college if they didn't believe in God. I was reading this book by Phillip Yancey, which I found interesting because he said he went to a bible college but didn't have any faith. I don't know the whole story, or what he learned, or how he found faith, or exactly what his faith now is..but it seems to me you can go to bible college and never really read the Bible. Because he writes in one of his books that he decided to read the bible from the beginning, straight through something he'd never done and I'm going, ?? hold on, didn't you go to Bible college? Do some bible colleges just treat the Bible as a Christian dictionary to pull quotes from to bolster their own ideas about religion? Or am I just generalising, that bible colleges don't teach this it's just the student doesn't believe.
Another one is Karen Armstrong the former nun who now writes lots of books about religion and God. I'm pretty sure she is a humanist, she likes the IDEA of God rather than having a personal faith in the Lord himself. I read her memoir, and she was writing constantly about trying to find God but failing in her catholic religion. I wanted to tell her it was very simple. She just needed to be humble and pray.
I just feel quite sceptical about people who treat God as their hobby and make him more complicated than He really is, then go to bible college and write books that make them out to be scholars and theologians as if they were above ordinary believers. I tried to read some books written by christians because I wanted to know how their walk with Christ was, and what they learned. But they don't turn out to be believers at all. Like Lloyd Geering. And then I want to know if the people who teach in these bible colleges are not believers, because if the teachers don't believe then what are they really teaching?
And then the people that attend the churches where the ordained ministers don't believe..what is it the church members are learning?
Do churches just hire pastors based on how well they passed their exams and adhere to the churches own doctrine rather than whether they have a heart to serve God?
I had a pastor in church one day say how he was finally going to get a chance to get up and speak, he didn't spend 3 years in bible college for nothing. And it made me question..if you had something to preach in church, wouldn't it be because the Spirit led you to say it rather than because you studied for 3 years and got a diploma?
In the Bible it says the church is the priesthood of all believers - WE are priests. It also says we don't need man to teach us, the Holy Spirit teaches us. It is up to us to search the scriptures and study the Word prayerfully, we don't need to pay someone to help us do this. The Holy Spirit gives us gifts making us pastors, teachers, ministers, healers etc. It never says we have to go to a bible college to learn all this...all the apostles were empowered by the Holy Spirit, without him they could do nothing.
so..i'm not sure about bible colleges.
I don't agree with having to go to college at all to be a pastor or a rabbi or a christian school. To many people in todays world look up to pastors and etc for answers of the truths which are misinterpreted and passed down over tradition. I am not saying sunday churches are useless and dont serve a purpose. But that nobody can be more qualified to lead a church than what God ordains. Where in the bible did God send the apostles to college to learn how to teach the word? Jesus taught the apostles to go and make disciples not open up a college teaching the word.
today most of people beliefs are based upon:
.what "my" pastor said
."These people are biblical scholars, they know what they are talking about!"
. This is the church i grew up in
.
We do not need a church curriculum over the Word of God. The biggest problem is due to education purposes we have sought to send our children to the best teachers we can find to teach us stuff. But doing so it has crept into the church. Would you want someone who went to college to learn about God teaching your children or family the word if he is not truly saved and filled with the holy spirit. i just dont agree with havibng to go to college to learn how to teach the bible to other people.
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