Ok so i cant know God exists or heaven and i wont go to hell for doubting God exists. What do i do now? Try not to freak out about there being no heaven that just seems like l am going into my doubt and welcoming agnostism. How do i not worry about hell.
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Hi Raven, if there is no God, there is no Hell. By believing in Hell you prove to me rather conclusively that you believe in God as well. Just remind yourself that your OCD masks your true self pretty well but not well enough to totally hide your true self from you. If you look you will find clues that the real you, the person you want to be, is still there struggling to be heard over the stupid cries of the fake OCD you---the one that pretends you don't believe in God. Love ya' sister! I'm praying for you!
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I have asked. I feel I am in this constant battle everyday to prove God exists. It makes me want to read evidences for him not existing which makes me feel hellbound but even when I do read that stuff I still doubt thinking I can't know if Christians are right or atheists are. So I am left with being agnostic. I don't want to be agnostic and just say I don't know if God is real or not but that is how I feel. Do I embrace it and say ok well I need to come to terms but the fact maybe there is no heaven (which makes me feel I will go to hell because I am doubting and embracing agnosticism) or do I constantly just say no I rebuke this I believe in God but that doesn't prepare me mentally if heaven is not there. Then thoughts come in what if afterlife exists but God doesn't. Aahh! How do I live like this.
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I would suggest reading God's words. The bible is His message to us. I would start just one chapter a day. John is a great place to start! You can't know God and about Him without His words.
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Raven,
You have to run the risk of treating it like OCD, even though to do so won't feel right to you.
This means letting go of looking for any evidence to try and reassure the doubt. It means allowing (allowing is NOT the same as embracing) the thoughts to be in your head without battling them at all. No rebuking them, No checking your feelings, No looking for answers to them or trying to solve them, No asking anybody if they think you are still saved, no reassurance seeking what so ever. Just let it all blab and on but DO NOT ATTEND to it.
Meanwhile do not allow yourself to avoid God. Avoidance is also part of the compulsion of OCD. What I mean is, go to church, read a chapter or two in your Bible every day, even if when you do so the OCD throws a bunch of doubt filled crud at you. Talk to the Lord even when your feelings are making you feel as if He isn't hearing you. This is how I'd talk to Him; "Please, Lord, show me when I'm giving in to my OCD and looking for reassurance concerning my standing with you rather than just doing the best I can to live in obedience to you. When I'm compulsing Lord, please just nudge me and help me to have the courage to stop. I have an illness and I know you are aware how horrible it makes me feel about my standing with you. I'm going to do my level best to manage it but I'm going to need your help. I'm too weak to do it without you. Even if I can't feel reassured about whether or not, in the end, you'll bring me home to heaven with you, I will still follow you because all other paths lead no where. Please help me Lord Jesus with this horrible disorder so that I can once again praise you with joy in my heart. And when you've stood me back up, please allow me to help someone else who is suffering." In Christ's powerful and precious name. Amen.
Love you kiddo!
Mitzi
You have to run the risk of treating it like OCD, even though to do so won't feel right to you.
This means letting go of looking for any evidence to try and reassure the doubt. It means allowing (allowing is NOT the same as embracing) the thoughts to be in your head without battling them at all. No rebuking them, No checking your feelings, No looking for answers to them or trying to solve them, No asking anybody if they think you are still saved, no reassurance seeking what so ever. Just let it all blab and on but DO NOT ATTEND to it.
Meanwhile do not allow yourself to avoid God. Avoidance is also part of the compulsion of OCD. What I mean is, go to church, read a chapter or two in your Bible every day, even if when you do so the OCD throws a bunch of doubt filled crud at you. Talk to the Lord even when your feelings are making you feel as if He isn't hearing you. This is how I'd talk to Him; "Please, Lord, show me when I'm giving in to my OCD and looking for reassurance concerning my standing with you rather than just doing the best I can to live in obedience to you. When I'm compulsing Lord, please just nudge me and help me to have the courage to stop. I have an illness and I know you are aware how horrible it makes me feel about my standing with you. I'm going to do my level best to manage it but I'm going to need your help. I'm too weak to do it without you. Even if I can't feel reassured about whether or not, in the end, you'll bring me home to heaven with you, I will still follow you because all other paths lead no where. Please help me Lord Jesus with this horrible disorder so that I can once again praise you with joy in my heart. And when you've stood me back up, please allow me to help someone else who is suffering." In Christ's powerful and precious name. Amen.
Love you kiddo!
Mitzi
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one time in my life when I was really struggling with doubt, I felt like God told me to just keep walking....one day at a time. (and quit ruminating about all the stuff in my head)At the time I didn t realize that is precisely what therapists who understand the dynamics of OCD also recommend....just like Mitzi said above. But the Bible does say faith comes by hearing and hearing by the word go God. So as Mitzi said, try not to avoid reading the Word or attending a good Bible believing church. Maybe you will just feel like you are going through the motions but change takes time.
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That doesnt make sense though i need to look at worse case that it isnt ocd in case i croak soon.
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I believe in the possibility of hell, heaven and God. I dont think God likes me to think of him as a possibility and since i cant prove the reason i see things this way is ocd. I need to focus on worse case scenario and what will happen if it is worst case scenario.
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I want to believe. Who doesnt want to believe. I cannot prove God exists i can not see him. I am happy for u kodadog that you can believe without seeing.
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My OCD makes me scared of hell! This is something I always struggle with!
I love God and I know he is there, and I know Im saved, however my OCD always tells me I am going to hell and God has left me! My head is telling me one thing, while my heart is telling me another!
I will be praying for you! I know how scary this feels!
I love God and I know he is there, and I know Im saved, however my OCD always tells me I am going to hell and God has left me! My head is telling me one thing, while my heart is telling me another!
I will be praying for you! I know how scary this feels!
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If i didnt want to believe i would not care but I cant just feel safe like when i die i will go on up to heaven. I used to be sure it was there. Now i hope it is and that scares me. Who wouldnt be afraid of death then.
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