What difference does it make?

hey, im feeling the same way, but what everyone has been telling me is that just trust the lord, let him guide you

Hi, How are you? The first five things you mentioned are things i don't see as
being positive things. I see them as things i can do or like. I do like music, and i like to make things. I've made about 75% of the things in my home.
I've never really looked at them as
positive things, only as things i can do.
I've always thought that being positive
had only to do with your attitude.The
christian songs I've written, i can't take credit for that; Those things were inspired by God. The secular songs I've written, as long as you can feel something in your heart, or something that has touched you thru circumstances,
i feel anyone can write a song. I realize
and believe that Gods' ways are not our ways, and that His wisdom is beyond
our comprehension. Not to sound dramatic or anything like that,but the
things I'm going thru right now are more than i can handle. My mind seems to
always be filled with dismal thoughts,
That's why i say " There isn't anymore
that i can do. I'm too tired physically
and mentally. That's the entire reason i
said, Lord i can't do this so i give it to you. If anything positive is going to happen, it's going to be because God saw some reason to act upon it. Some would say that's giving up. I say it's giving in even tho things in my spiritual
life seem ship wrecked. Sorry for rambling. Take Care. Amin.

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hey, im feeling the same way, but what everyone has been telling me is that just trust the lord, let him guide you

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Let me hear your concerns, worries, and fear.
Let US hear everything.

I'm sobbing because of your troubles.
Overwhelmed with saddness.
This is how God feels towards you.

It would be surprising not to think about meaning of life.
Every thing we achieved..
What did we do them for?
To glorify Christ.
Why?
Simply, because he died for us..furthermore, he is God, only one God without any equal, jealousy God..

As said in Luke,

Do not store your treasures on earth, where moth and rust destroy, and where thieves break in and steal. But store up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where moth and rust do not destroy , and where thieves do not break in and steal. For where your treasure is, is where your heart is.

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Some say life is just test..
test to achieve eternal life.
SOME say.
But in a book called Purpose Driven Life, it talks about test AND the love of the Lord for us.
As we are expression of love itself.
Sin blinded us from this truth and create disasters and evil.
Finally, judgment is fell upon us.
But God still loves us all.
If anyone who would reject, would be us.
God comes, rolls, and runs to us.

The songs and music you made, it was for Christ.
If it was, then that's purpose.
Living and dying, all comes to Jesus who died for us.

I had horrid attitude, selfishness, and loneliness.
This all changed after Christ came in my life.
However, I still struggle with such problem you have and I don't want to see my sister or any brother to be apart from Christ..

(I will just tell you this, would anything be any better if we stop believing? I think it would be more painful..)

I never had close friend who would stay with me or girlfriend or any sort, they all disappeared within a year or two.
I was unfortunate and still am but I know I'm not alone..with God and you and we all around, we form something.

All smart people like Aristrotle and Eisenstein wanted to come up with an answer and purpose of life, they couldn't

A famous Atheist also said that, "if atheists or non-believers to come up with a purpose of life, there can be none. It would be better to live WITHOUT it"

thus..rejecting all truth of Christ..


A...h..
NO body is perfect sister..
nobody..
nobody has to BE perfect in God's eye.
Because he loves us.
And it is in HIM, we can be perfected.
Only Jesus can complete us

So don't worry, do not fear and be swarmed into confussion.
Just take hand of Christ
Hand given by the Christ.
Take his and...and walk with him.
Trust him and have faith in him.

hey, im feeling the same way, but what everyone has been telling me is that just trust the lord, let him guide you

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Did you trust Lord?..
He trusts you..
he loves you limitlessly.
He died for you.
He was killed by our sinful hand and still yet he loves you.
Yes, let him guide you and may peace be upon you.

If you can't trust me, then at least trust God..
Please I beg you.
I will pray for you..

God bless.

Amin said:

Hi, How are you? The first five things you mentioned are things i don't see as
being positive things. I see them as things i can do or like. I do like music, and i like to make things. I've made about 75% of the things in my home.
I've never really looked at them as
positive things, only as things i can do.
I've always thought that being positive
had only to do with your attitude.The
christian songs I've written, i can't take credit for that; Those things were inspired by God. The secular songs I've written, as long as you can feel something in your heart, or something that has touched you thru circumstances,
i feel anyone can write a song. I realize
and believe that Gods' ways are not our ways, and that His wisdom is beyond
our comprehension. Not to sound dramatic or anything like that,but the
things I'm going thru right now are more than i can handle. My mind seems to
always be filled with dismal thoughts,
That's why i say " There isn't anymore
that i can do. I'm too tired physically
and mentally. That's the entire reason i
said, Lord i can't do this so i give it to you. If anything positive is going to happen, it's going to be because God saw some reason to act upon it. Some would say that's giving up. I say it's giving in even tho things in my spiritual
life seem ship wrecked. Sorry for rambling. Take Care. Amin.

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I understand exactly how you feel.

here is a prayer I say often when I feel as you describe here:

Psalm 102

1 Hear my prayer, O LORD, and let my cry come unto thee. 2 Hide not thy face from me in the day when I am in trouble; incline thine ear unto me: in the day when I call answer me speedily. 3 For my days are consumed like smoke, and my bones are burned as an hearth. 4 My heart is smitten, and withered like grass; so that I forget to eat my bread. 5 By reason of the voice of my groaning my bones cleave to my skin. 6 I am like a pelican of the wilderness: I am like an owl of the desert. 7 I watch, and am as a sparrow alone upon the house top. 8 Mine enemies reproach me all the day; and they that are mad against me are sworn against me. 9 For I have eaten ashes like bread, and mingled my drink with weeping.

10 Because of thine indignation and thy wrath: for thou hast lifted me up, and cast me down. 11 My days are like a shadow that declineth; and I am withered like grass. 12 But thou, O LORD, shall endure for ever; and thy remembrance unto all generations. 13 Thou shalt arise, and have mercy upon Zion: for the time to favour her, yea, the set time, is come. 14 For thy servants take pleasure in her stones, and favour the dust thereof. 15 So the heathen shall fear the name of the LORD, and all the kings of the earth thy glory. 16 When the LORD shall build up Zion, he shall appear in his glory. 17 He will regard the prayer of the destitute, and not despise their prayer.

18 This shall be written for the generation to come: and the people which shall be created shall praise the LORD. 19 For he hath looked down from the height of his sanctuary; from heaven did the LORD behold the earth; 20 To hear the groaning of the prisoner; to loose those that are appointed to death; 21 To declare the name of the LORD in Zion, and his praise in Jerusalem; 22 When the people are gathered together, and the kingdoms, to serve the LORD. 23 He weakened my strength in the way; he shortened my days.

24 I said, O my God, take me not away in the midst of my days: thy years are throughout all generations. 25 Of old hast thou laid the foundation of the earth: and the heavens are the work of thy hands. 26 They shall perish, but thou shalt endure: yea, all of them shall wax old like a garment; as a vesture shalt thou change them, and they shall be changed: 27 But thou art the same, and thy years shall have no end. 28 The children of thy servants shall continue, and their seed shall be established before thee.

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And another one:

Dear Lord,

The dark clouds of trouble gather above me, and the grief of torments terrify me. Though I find myself in a state of suffering, I do not complain against you, O Good One, for you are my support and the unshaken rock upon which I place my hope.

You know God the cause of my sorrows, and you continue to look after me. Even in my sufferings, I know that you love me, and it is this very knowledge that strengthens me. Thus hoping in your love and goodness, I shall not allow these assaults to overcome me; rather I will fight with courage, and confident in your help, I shall be victorious.

It is you that guide the world and the fate of morals; thus direct the ship of my life which is assailed by the waves of temptations so that it may reach the calm harbor. Alone, I fight in vain against the tempests of life, for without you I can do nothing. I therefore flee to you, O Good One, and I pray: Come to my aid and save me by Your might, just as you once saved Peter who came to you upon the water. Stretch out your hand to me as you did to him, O Lord of mercy and do not delay.
Amen.

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You can read the words of a prayer written in the bible or by another person and make them your own prayer to the Lord.

Amin said:

Hi,
Thanks for your reply. I used to pray all the time, now it seems i don't pray at all. One of the reasons i don't is because I've taken up some of my old habits just to find some peace and comfort once in
a while. I believe that as long as I'm doing this my prayers will be futile. I really don't know what to say.I wake to the day with despair in my heart and mind, and go to bed the same way.I
wish i could say something positive, but I've been going thru this for so long that
i don't believe there's an answer anymore. I also have a stomach problem called: Barretts Esophagus,
which never heals you can only treat the symptoms. Even tho i treat the symptoms, I have an upset stomach
every day of the week.So, with that the depression, and anxiety, I'm just too tired to care anymore, therefore i don't pray much. I guess I'm just tired of the struggle. It's much easier to just give in.
Thanks for the prayers, Amin.

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Dear Amin, please go back to praying. You might try some written prayers. Prayers is not only about trying to get God to do what we would like Him to do. Prayers area also for helping us understand why the change we want to have is not occuring.

Remember, our spiritual welfare is far more important to God then if we are happy all the time. Sometimes we endure health issues and other problems in life to strengthen our spirit life.

Try reading the book of Job in the old testiment. This helps me when I feel like giving up.

Amin said:

Hi,
Thanks for your reply. I used to pray all the time, now it seems i don't pray at all. One of the reasons i don't is because I've taken up some of my old habits just to find some peace and comfort once in
a while. I believe that as long as I'm doing this my prayers will be futile. I really don't know what to say.I wake to the day with despair in my heart and mind, and go to bed the same way.I
wish i could say something positive, but I've been going thru this for so long that
i don't believe there's an answer anymore. I also have a stomach problem called: Barretts Esophagus,
which never heals you can only treat the symptoms. Even tho i treat the symptoms, I have an upset stomach
every day of the week.So, with that the depression, and anxiety, I'm just too tired to care anymore, therefore i don't pray much. I guess I'm just tired of the struggle. It's much easier to just give in.
Thanks for the prayers, Amin.

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Oh, Dearest Amin,

Glad to see you posting again! Sorry things have not improved for you

Regardless of the "old habits" you may have "taken up" your Heavenly Father LOVES you and is MORE than willing to hear your prayers (short, written, or just tears) THEY ARE NOT FUTILE (even if you feel that way)

Sometimes in ones life...you just can't think of anything positive to say. Especially if you are struggling with depression! It's okay Amin...the day is coming when you will see small "positive" things which will grow with time!

I am really glad you have posted again! Please continue...as you have seen and read there are others who have gone, or are going through simular "struggles"

With s & s
Wendy

Good Morning Amin,

Ya know...I used to wish I had cancer or some other disease that people could "relate" to or see. I just couldn't accept my mental disease.

My family and friends have gone thru (and are still going thru) many "major" struggles...this doesn't mean I HAVE to. I think it's just life. Why some people go thru life with (what we think) are no problems, perse, I have no idea.

I believe with all my heart that God only wants what's best for us. I guess we are to look to Jesus and see what He went thru for us. I guess when we look at that, what we are going thru doesn't seem all that bad. I find it hard to fathom what He did go thru for us. The Bible does say He went thru all that we do, and of course MORE.

When was the last time you felt "good"?

HI Amin,
I can relate to alot of your posts, I think you mentioned having stomach problems, I aslo take medicine for my stomach and gastrointestinal problems, and the medicine helps alot, I hope you can find treatment for your stomach, also I don't recall if you mentioned if your in any treatment for depression? I know in my case depression reallly fogs my spiritual life, I can't tell you what to do, but for me, I try to do just a little bit every day so I don't get ovewhelmed, sometimes all I can do is read a few paragraphs from the bible, and sometimes I will just say a short prayer, and then just devote a half hour to resting. And the support from those on this forum has helped me through many days.


Daryl

Amin said:

Hi,
In all honesty, i think the last time i really felt well was about 5 yrs. ago.
That's when i had an adverse reaction
to a stomach medicine. Since then little by little I've gotten to where i am today.
What you've mentioned is one of the things that bothers me. I've pretty
much read the whole bible, a lot of places more than once. I'm not sure where it is, but i know the bible says ;
We have not yet struggled to the point of shedding our blood. ( Speaking of Christ)
I used to read my bible so much that i had to buy a new one because my old one was all tattered. That's why i don't understand how i can know one thing, yet do another, and i also know that
Paul struggled with the same thing." For
the things i don't want to do, i do, and the things i should do, i don't". It just doesn't make sense to me. I have the type of mind that likes to solve things,
and when i can't, it bugs me to no end.
Thanks for your concern,
Chuck.

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Hey Chuck,

You know...this is one thing I love (and I do mean love) about this forum...there are so many who suffer the same "things" in life...the honesty that is typed here encourages and helps another go thru "ruff patches".

I think if I were a man, I would have to be called Paul! I have many times in my life figured I knew better than God about "running" my life. Each time I turned my back on Him I "crashed and burned" Every time I ran from Him the crash was harder and the burns deeper I to this day do NOT understand how I could do this???? Not to long ago this behavior of mine just drove me NUTS! But things have begun to change a bit, I was just sharing with my Mom, how proud I was of myself for not analyzeing everything to death ! (as I used to)

I am so glad to hear you have read the Bible so much! All Gods Words are within you even if you can't hear them at this moment!

Keep posting Chuck!
Wendy

Hi...I've just found this thread so I hope I'm not repeating anything already said.
I know those periods of time when you just can't pray...when I'm there I basically don't care too much that I can't pray or about anything else... but God is the only hope.
I have found that if I put on some good praise and worship music it helps. Sometimes it's the last thing I want to hear, but I force myself. Sooner or later, I find myself singing/humming along, and at least the words are getting in a little. It does affect my soul in a positive way. I know it's not God's word (Bible), but it does contain truth and it is truth that changes our hearts towards God.
One example, recently I was so low, but I knew the right thing to do was to praise God - even though I didn't want to. Casting Crowns song, Praise You in this Storm, I played over and over and over until just the line "I will praise you in this storm" was solid in my mind. Somehow, it lifted me just a little (even if it took a while) and now I make the choice to force myself to listen to worship music when I'm sinking.
(I used to pick some rather melancholy/dark stuff, 'cause I could identify with the lyrics and found I was declaring some pretty bleak stuff over my life.)
Choosing to somehow declare God's truth even when it doesn't seem true has life-changing power. It takes time and repetition and consistency, so don't expect everything to be brighter after an hour or so. Hang in there, God's got hold of you!

Just my thoughts.... love & prayers,
Lisa

PS...I'm not there yet... still on my way... next time I'm sinking (and have the courage to admit it) can someone send this back to me please!

Celtic Camel said:

Hi...I've just found this thread so I hope I'm not repeating anything already said.
I know those periods of time when you just can't pray...when I'm there I basically don't care too much that I can't pray or about anything else... but God is the only hope.
I have found that if I put on some good praise and worship music it helps. Sometimes it's the last thing I want to hear, but I force myself. Sooner or later, I find myself singing/humming along, and at least the words are getting in a little. It does affect my soul in a positive way. I know it's not God's word (Bible), but it does contain truth and it is truth that changes our hearts towards God.
One example, recently I was so low, but I knew the right thing to do was to praise God - even though I didn't want to. Casting Crowns song, Praise You in this Storm, I played over and over and over until just the line "I will praise you in this storm" was solid in my mind. Somehow, it lifted me just a little (even if it took a while) and now I make the choice to force myself to listen to worship music when I'm sinking.
(I used to pick some rather melancholy/dark stuff, 'cause I could identify with the lyrics and found I was declaring some pretty bleak stuff over my life.)
Choosing to somehow declare God's truth even when it doesn't seem true has life-changing power. It takes time and repetition and consistency, so don't expect everything to be brighter after an hour or so. Hang in there, God's got hold of you!

Just my thoughts.... love & prayers,
Lisa

PS...I'm not there yet... still on my way... next time I'm sinking (and have the courage to admit it) can someone send this back to me please!

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Hi, there are a few members of CF who copy posts of theirs into a blog so that when they need to be reminded of their own words they are easy to find. (Just don't copy someone else's post there without permission.)

Morning Chuck,

I just read this in devotions this am:

Psalm: 94 vs. 19

In the multitide of my anxieties within me. Your comforts, "Oh Lord", delight my soul.

"I am so weak that I cannot work. I cannot read my Bible: I cannot even pray. I can only lie still in God's arms like a child and trust. - H. Taylor

Have you been passing thru a time when you are tired of body and sick of heart? Do you find it difficult to focus your mind on bibical promises? Has it become hard for you to pray? Don't write yourself off as a spiritual castaway! You are joining a host of God's people who have experienced the dark night of the soul.

When we endure such times, all we can do - indeed, all we need do - is lie still like a child in the arms of our heavenly Father. Words aren't necessary. A comforting father doesn't expect his child to make speeches. Neither does God. He knows we need His soothing care. In times of trouble, His mercy holds us up. We may trust Hime to carry us through that dark night of the soul and on into the dawing light. -- V. Grounds

Wendy

Oh, Chuck ,

The pain of having those we love pass on to the next life is so dreadful. Please accept my sincere sympathy at the passing of your Mom and your Uncle.

You really are a talented song writter! I think many on this forum can relate to the words!

I'm still glad your posting! Please continue so we can continue to lift your name in prayer and support you and encourage you as best we can!

ing for you Chuck,
Wendy