What did the Pre-Flood World look like?

FrozenOne · Jan 25, 2015

Has anyone made a map of what the pre-flood world may have looked like on the basis of the hydroplate theory? The hydroplate theory according to Dr. Walt Brown supposes that the continents moved on a lubricating bed of water to their current positions. So if you extrapolate them back to the sea floor rift I was supposing you could come up with a crude map of what used to be. Anyone seen such a thing around somewhere? I just thought it would be interesting to see.

Papias · Jan 29, 2015

Has anyone made a map of what the pre-cowjump moon may have looked like on the basis of the "cow jumped over the moon" theory? The cow-jumped-over-the-moon theory according to Dr. Goose supposes that the cow jumped over the moon. So if you extrapolate back I was supposing you could come up with a crude map of what the moon used to look like. Anyone seen such a thing around somewhere? I just thought it would be interesting to see.

miamited · Jan 29, 2015

Hi frozenone,

No, I've never seen a pre-flood map. However, there are some theories floating around. Some suggest that most of the high mountains and the separation of land into continents that we see today were created from the great cataclysm of the springs of the deep bursting forth. So the land may well have been one single piece and much flatter. There are those who say the continents do seem to fit together like puzzle pieces and so there may well be some merit to the theory.

God bless you.
In Christ, Ted

ebia · Jan 31, 2015

FrozenOne said:
Has anyone made a map of what the pre-flood world may have looked like on the basis of the hydroplate theory? The hydroplate theory according to Dr. Walt Brown supposes that the continents moved on a lubricating bed of water to their current positions. So if you extrapolate them back to the sea floor rift I was supposing you could come up with a crude map of what used to be. Anyone seen such a thing around somewhere? I just thought it would be interesting to see.

That would require a coherent theory instead of a grab-bag of ad-hoc "explanations" for each discrepancy.

Either that or a 5 year old with a crayon.

juvenissun · Feb 1, 2015

ebia said:
That would require a coherent theory instead of a grab-bag of ad-hoc "explanations" for each discrepancy.

Either that or a 5 year old with a crayon.

Very true.

But it is likely to be a BIG theory. So, work on its pieces first and then put them together is not a bad idea.

juvenissun · Feb 1, 2015

FrozenOne said:
Has anyone made a map of what the pre-flood world may have looked like on the basis of the hydroplate theory? The hydroplate theory according to Dr. Walt Brown supposes that the continents moved on a lubricating bed of water to their current positions. So if you extrapolate them back to the sea floor rift I was supposing you could come up with a crude map of what used to be. Anyone seen such a thing around somewhere? I just thought it would be interesting to see.

First, the earth was like the ancient Mars. Patches of shallow sea scattered around low lands. Functions of hydrological cycle existed, but at a much lower intensity. Most importantly, there was no plate tectonics. Therefore, no high mountains.

BobRyan · Feb 6, 2015

Papias said:
Has anyone made a map of what the pre-cowjump moon may have looked like on the basis of the "cow jumped over the moon" theory? The cow-jumped-over-the-moon theory according to Dr. Goose supposes that the cow jumped over the moon. So if you extrapolate back I was supposing you could come up with a crude map of what the moon used to look like. Anyone seen such a thing around somewhere? I just thought it would be interesting to see.

One example - one possibility - one illustration

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7GFV_CBzm8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8CLB5FBPWq0

Citizen of the Kingdom · Feb 6, 2015

the sudden fracturing of the depths can be seen since 1970's 80's when technology allowed for the deepest part of the ocean to be viewed. Running from north to south pole is the world's largest mountain range in the middle of the Atlantic ocean, the Mid Atlantic Ridge.

The 'Hydroplate Theory' involves
1) the earth's crust ruptures at the Mid Atlantic Ridge sending water and steam into the atmospher
2) rising molten pours out of the fracture sending it high into the air as well
3) fine sediments block out the sun sending the earth into an ice-age
4) vapor condenses causing freezing of poles and killing animals instantly
5) molten rock condenses and cools causing new ocean bottoms sending water over earth's surface
6) over time the weight forces eath's crust down and outward as evidenced from ocean floor geography
it slides on layers of 'water below the expance' hence the name hydroplate
7) the additional weight from above and below forces ocean bottom deeper with mountains and valleys

SkyWriting · Feb 7, 2015

FrozenOne said:
Has anyone made a map of what the pre-flood world may have looked like on the basis of the hydroplate theory? The hydroplate theory according to Dr. Walt Brown supposes that the continents moved on a lubricating bed of water to their current positions. So if you extrapolate them back to the sea floor rift I was supposing you could come up with a crude map of what used to be. Anyone seen such a thing around somewhere? I just thought it would be interesting to see.

Every single idea people hold about past events is a leap of faith.
Every single one.

A PhD is the highest degree of philosophy offered.

SkyWriting · Feb 7, 2015

Papias said:
Has anyone made a map of what the pre-cowjump moon may have looked like on the basis of the "cow jumped over the moon" theory? The cow-jumped-over-the-moon theory according to Dr. Goose supposes that the cow jumped over the moon. So if you extrapolate back I was supposing you could come up with a crude map of what the moon used to look like. Anyone seen such a thing around somewhere? I just thought it would be interesting to see.

Is that really the Orthodox Catholic stand on scripture?
Could you link to that position paper, possibly?

Papias · Feb 10, 2015

SW wrote:

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......Has anyone made a map of what the pre-cowjump moon may have looked like on the basis of the "cow jumped over the moon" theory?

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Is that really the Orthodox Catholic stand on scripture?

Yes. The Catholic stand on scripture is that some of it is non-literal, and that human interpretations of scripture that contradict clear and established evidence are human errors. Thus, my pointing out that the crackpot "hydroplate" idea is just that is consistent with a Catholic view of scripture.

Here is a short quip from a longer explanation, specifically about the flood myth:

The less-than-factual character of this story, however, in no way diminishes the truth and sacredness of its message. Do Catholics believe that Noah’s Ark is a factual event? - Busted Halo

Could you link to that position paper, possibly?

Sure, here is one from Pope Emeritus Benedict XVI:

Interpretation of the Bible

Every single idea people hold about past events is a leap of faith.
Every single one.

So all murderers must go free, since we can't use evidence to establish what happened in the past?

So it is equally likely that you were dropped on earth 10 minutes ago by space aliens, with false memories of your earlier post pre-implanted in your brain, as opposed to what you think actually happened today?

Bob wrote:

One example - one possibility - one illustration

Well, you gave two videos, but it doesn't matter - they both are recognized as false by those thousands of Christians who are familiar with the evidence.

In Christ-

Papias

Citizen of the Kingdom · Feb 10, 2015

I think that was before science was recognised as indisputable yet biblically sound in many cases. I guess some missed the memo.

Calminian · Feb 13, 2015

FrozenOne said:
Has anyone made a map of what the pre-flood world may have looked like on the basis of the hydroplate theory? The hydroplate theory according to Dr. Walt Brown supposes that the continents moved on a lubricating bed of water to their current positions. So if you extrapolate them back to the sea floor rift I was supposing you could come up with a crude map of what used to be. Anyone seen such a thing around somewhere? I just thought it would be interesting to see.

It's probably similar to Pangea ideas that are out there. I'd be curious too about the climate and several other things. Almost wish I could travel back in time to experience it. Bigger animals and plants. 900 year old humans. Must have been something.

The only problem is it's on the wrong side of the cross.

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