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What commandments is Jesus talking about?

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You need to understand the difference between being justified (made right with God) and abiding in Christ (obeying His commandments).
One can't abide in Christ without being right with God. I think you're promoting obligation to the law for salvation.
 
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Galatians 5 is referring to people trying to be justified by the law. They are not relying on Christ as their means of being made right with God. Are you saying we don’t have to keep Jesus’ two most important commandments? Why were the goats condemned in Matthew 25:31-46? Notice the works Jesus mentioned have to do with loving others just like James 2:14-17 as he is giving an example of a dead and useless or barren faith.
 
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I've already posted one of them - JN 13:34. You say it isn't. That would be calling Jesus or John a liar. I believe the text to be inspired.

I am saying it is in Torah, which it is. So I am not calling anyone a liar. He is just repeating His Father's will.
 
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If you submit to the law for any reason you're submitting to being justified by the law and Jesus is of no effect for you. There's nothing in the NT requiring the keeping of the law for its participants.
 
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One can't abide in Christ without being right with God. I think you're promoting obligation to the law for salvation.

Absolutely but one can’t abide in Him without obeying His commandments.

“If you keep My commandments, you will abide in My love; just as I have kept My Father's commandments and abide in His love. These things I have spoken to you so that My joy may be in you, and that your joy may be made full. "This is My commandment, that you love one another, just as I have loved you.”
‭‭JOHN‬ ‭15:10-12‬ ‭NASB‬‬
 
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If you submit to the law for any reason you're submitting to being justified by the law and Jesus is of no effect for you. There's nothing in the NT requiring the keeping of the law for its participants.

Why can’t a person obey God simply because they love and honor Him and not in exchange for salvation?
 
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So the reality is the new covenant has nothing to do with the old covenant.
 
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I'm not. You're issuing a call to Judaism which isn't Christianity. So how can you be a Christian and promote Judaism? You're posting in a forum you agreed not to when agreeing to the terms of service.

Rabbinic Judaism...um no. Christianity IS Judaism...Yeshua is our promised Messiah.
 
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Why can’t a person obey God simply because they love and honor Him and not in exchange for salvation?
Is being in compliance with 1 JN 3:23 not obeying God? If it is how is that keeping the law?

And this is his commandment, That we should believe on the name of his Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, as he gave us commandment.

Pick apart this verse.
 
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So the reality is the new covenant has nothing to do with the old covenant.

I believe we are under the purpose of the law not the letter of the law. I believe we must obey Jesus’ two most important commandments but in doing so we will automatically obey all of God’s commandments. The mosaic law added a lot more restrictions to God’s commandments clouding the purpose for which the commandments were originally given.
 
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If you believed Moses you would believe Me because he spoke of Me...pick apart this verse
 
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Why can’t a person obey God simply because they love and honor Him and not in exchange for salvation?
No one can buy (appease/obligate) God by keeping the law. The only way to the Father is through Jesus Christ the righteous. JN 14:6, 10:9
 
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That is taking one piece of the message and forming a doctrine but what about the beginning of the message in the beginning of the same chapter? Does this not teach that obedience is necessary to being a child of God before continuing on to verse 23?

“Beloved, now we are children of God, and it has not appeared as yet what we will be. We know that when He appears, we will be like Him, because we will see Him just as He is. And everyone who has this hope fixed on Him purifies himself, just as He is pure. Everyone who practices sin also practices lawlessness; and sin is lawlessness. You know that He appeared in order to take away sins; and in Him there is no sin. No one who abides in Him sins; no one who sins has seen Him or knows Him. Little children, make sure no one deceives you; the one who practices righteousness is righteous, just as He is righteous; the one who practices sin is of the devil; for the devil has sinned from the beginning. The Son of God appeared for this purpose, to destroy the works of the devil. No one who is born of God practices sin, because His seed abides in him; and he cannot sin, because he is born of God. By this the children of God and the children of the devil are obvious: anyone who does not practice righteousness is not of God, nor the one who does not love his brother.”
‭‭1 JOHN‬ ‭3:2-10‬ ‭NASB‬‬
 
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Rabbinic Judaism...um no. Christianity IS Judaism...Yeshua is our promised Messiah.
Sorry. Judaism as practiced isn't Christianity. There's no Jesus in Judaism. Jesus is indeed the Messiah of the Jews and the whole world, Who is rejected for various reasons.
 
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No one can buy (appease/obligate) God by keeping the law. The only way to the Father is through Jesus Christ the righteous. JN 14:6, 10:9

You seem to think that we obey God to receive salvation instead of because we honor and love Him. Can you say you truly love God if you disregard His commandments?
 
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