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What can one "do" with design?

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The part that is initially frightening (but can ultimately be freeing) is that it can cause you to consider that you have a Creator to Whom you are beholden to.
 
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Let's say I decide to accept that all living things are the result of deliberate design.

Now what? What can I do with that?

If (big if) that were true, then the main thing to do would be to find out who designed you. The creator is always better than the creation.
 
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Let's say I decide to accept that all living things are the result of deliberate design.

Now what? What can I do with that?

that means they serve a specific purpose that is in tune to the way they are designed. So its a matter now of what it is, and how to best to respond to it. Best one to ask to is the one who designed it in the first place.
 
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Let's say I decide to accept that all living things are the result of deliberate design.

Now what? What can I do with that?


I suggest you immediately get in touch with The Designer and point out that his design incorporates a number of serious design flaws causing premature death, disease and disability.

You should also recommend that he/she issue a universal defect notice and an immediate recall of all units for extensive upgrading or replacement. :)
OB
 
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The creator is always better than the creation.
Well, that's not true, especially lower-case. There have been some truly miserable human beings who nonetheless created exquisite works of art and design.
 
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The part that is initially frightening (but can ultimately be freeing) is that it can cause you to consider that you have a Creator to Whom you are beholden to.

Why would I be beholden to them? That seems a bit of a leap...

If (big if) that were true, then the main thing to do would be to find out who designed you. The creator is always better than the creation.

How do we know the creator is better than the creation? What if original life on Earth were part of some bio-warfare project by a long-dead race of intelligent aliens fighting an interstellar war?

In fact, that may explain what happened to the dinosaurs...

that means they serve a specific purpose that is in tune to the way they are designed. So its a matter now of what it is, and how to best to respond to it. Best one to ask to is the one who designed it in the first place.

How do I ask them? Do I use a radio? Send a telegram? Smoke signals?
 
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The part that is initially frightening (but can ultimately be freeing) is that it can cause you to consider that you have a Creator to Whom you are beholden to.
You don't need ID for that.
 
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Let's say I decide to accept that all living things are the result of deliberate design.

Now what? What can I do with that?
Use it as a "wedge" to drive fundamentalist Protestant theology into the public school curriculum.
 
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The Word of God is the manual I'm referring to

Oh I know.

But here's the thing: there is no singular word of God. There are in fact dozens to choose from throughout history.

And second, if "accepting" design is just supposed to result in a thinly veiled attempt at theological conversion then no thank you very much. I'm already set.:oldthumbsup:
 
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Oh I know.

But here's the thing: there is no singular word of God. There are in fact dozens to choose from throughout history.

And second, if "accepting" design is just supposed to result in a thinly veiled attempt at theological conversion then no thank you very much. I'm already set.:oldthumbsup:

Dozen to choose, but haven't chosen anything so... not understand how you're exactly "already set".....lol

But what do I know, im just a Christian...offering advice...on a Christian forum...:)
 
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Well, that's not true, especially lower-case. There have been some truly miserable human beings who nonetheless created exquisite works of art and design.

How do we know the creator is better than the creation? What if original life on Earth were part of some bio-warfare project by a long-dead race of intelligent aliens fighting an interstellar war?

I had presumed you meant all of creation, and by better than it I mean something along the lines of ability and power. If someone directly made and "organized" time and space to work in a specific way and no other way, then I'd say they are better (in ability or power, or other terms that may be more accurate there) than their creation.
 
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