What are we doing to the planet? Insect life being destroyed.

[Dave RP]

http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2017/05/where-have-all-insects-gone

I read with horror the article from Science mag, what on earth are we humans doing to the planet, if we lose the insects at the base of the food chain, we lose everything above. We all need to change our ways and to lobby our respective Governments to try to find out what is happening to the insect life and to do something about it. If that means humans have to accept a little inconvenience, so be it. What was the song - "give me spots on apples but leave me the birds and the bees"....
I would like to see organised religion doing much more environmentally, Christians believe God gave humanity stewardship of the planet, we ll they should be ding much more to ensure we are looking after our home a lot better than we are. I see religion getting too hooked up on personal behaviour, sin and all that yet the biggest sin pf all, the destruction of biodiversity on earth barely gets a mention.

 

[Aseyesee]

http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2017/05/where-have-all-insects-gone

I read with horror the article from Science mag, what on earth are we humans doing to the planet, if we lose the insects at the base of the food chain, we lose everything above. We all need to change our ways and to lobby our respective Governments to try to find out what is happening to the insect life and to do something about it. If that means humans have to accept a little inconvenience, so be it. What was the song - "give me spots on apples but leave me the birds and the bees"....
I would like to see organised religion doing much more environmentally, Christians believe God gave humanity stewardship of the planet, we ll they should be ding much more to ensure we are looking after our home a lot better than we are. I see religion getting too hooked up on personal behaviour, sin and all that yet the biggest sin pf all, the destruction of biodiversity on earth barely gets a mention.

I wouldn't hold my breath ...

 

[Goonie]

http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2017/05/where-have-all-insects-gone

I read with horror the article from Science mag, what on earth are we humans doing to the planet, if we lose the insects at the base of the food chain, we lose everything above. We all need to change our ways and to lobby our respective Governments to try to find out what is happening to the insect life and to do something about it. If that means humans have to accept a little inconvenience, so be it. What was the song - "give me spots on apples but leave me the birds and the bees"....
I would like to see organised religion doing much more environmentally, Christians believe God gave humanity stewardship of the planet, we ll they should be ding much more to ensure we are looking after our home a lot better than we are. I see religion getting too hooked up on personal behaviour, sin and all that yet the biggest sin pf all, the destruction of biodiversity on earth barely gets a mention.

Indeed, and with just 60 harvests left until we run out of fertile soil, it leaves one seriously depressed.
Forget about climate change, loss of soil and insects will doom us first.

 

[Nithavela]

*points at signature and grins*

 

[SkyWriting]

http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2017/05/where-have-all-insects-gone

I read with horror the article from Science mag, what on earth are we humans doing to the planet, if we lose the insects at the base of the food chain, we lose everything above. We all need to change our ways and to lobby our respective Governments to try to find out what is happening to the insect life and to do something about it. If that means humans have to accept a little inconvenience, so be it. What was the song - "give me spots on apples but leave me the birds and the bees"....
I would like to see organised religion doing much more environmentally, Christians believe God gave humanity stewardship of the planet, we ll they should be ding much more to ensure we are looking after our home a lot better than we are. I see religion getting too hooked up on personal behaviour, sin and all that yet the biggest sin pf all, the destruction of biodiversity on earth barely gets a mention.

That reminds me of this Sci-Fi story where robots stopped getting instructions for the day, so they decided to take a trip to the city. After much searching they finally found one human left.

 

[Strathos]

Indeed, and with just 60 harvests left until we run out of fertile soil, it leaves one seriously depressed.
Forget about climate change, loss of soil and insects will doom us first.

So does that mean 60 years or what?

 

[Goatee]

Poor insects! Gazillions around here! Maybe they all came to live here!

 

[Goonie]

Poor insects! Gazillions around here! Maybe they all came to live here!

Yes argument by anecdote, just like the American politician standing holding up with a snowball saying “see no global warming”

 

[Goatee]

Plenty of insect orphanages around the world! Lol

 

[joshua 1 9]

http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2017/05/where-have-all-insects-gone

I read with horror the article from Science mag, what on earth are we humans doing to the planet, if we lose the insects at the base of the food chain, we lose everything above. We all need to change our ways and to lobby our respective Governments to try to find out what is happening to the insect life and to do something about it. If that means humans have to accept a little inconvenience, so be it. What was the song - "give me spots on apples but leave me the birds and the bees"....
I would like to see organised religion doing much more environmentally, Christians believe God gave humanity stewardship of the planet, we ll they should be ding much more to ensure we are looking after our home a lot better than we are. I see religion getting too hooked up on personal behaviour, sin and all that yet the biggest sin pf all, the destruction of biodiversity on earth barely gets a mention.

The time will come to destroy those who destroy the earth and to reward those who serve God.
Rev 11:18 NIV "The nations were angry, and your wrath has come. The time has come for judging the dead, and for rewarding your servants the prophets and your people who revere your name, both great and small-- and for destroying those who destroy the earth."

 

[Ken Rank]

http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2017/05/where-have-all-insects-gone

I read with horror the article from Science mag, what on earth are we humans doing to the planet, if we lose the insects at the base of the food chain, we lose everything above. We all need to change our ways and to lobby our respective Governments to try to find out what is happening to the insect life and to do something about it. If that means humans have to accept a little inconvenience, so be it. What was the song - "give me spots on apples but leave me the birds and the bees"....
I would like to see organised religion doing much more environmentally, Christians believe God gave humanity stewardship of the planet, we ll they should be ding much more to ensure we are looking after our home a lot better than we are. I see religion getting too hooked up on personal behaviour, sin and all that yet the biggest sin pf all, the destruction of biodiversity on earth barely gets a mention.

Currently today, from the non-frozen parts of the world, there are more insects in any one square mile during the summer months than there are humans on the entire planet. I don't trust claims like the article makes... it reeks of the pictures of the polar bears floating on a tiny piece of ice adrift in the Ocean about to die from global warming. What they didn't tell us is that picture was taken at an angel to make it look like they were adrift and about to die.

They, whoever they are, try to scare us into submission. I recently saw a 1938 photo of the NJ Shore and there were some buildings there that are still there today. Interesting, that after nearly 80 years, the buildings are the same distance to the water than they were in '38.

 

[ananda]

Christians believe God gave humanity stewardship of the planet

Stewardship ... or supposedly dominion over it (Genesis 1:26)?

Dominion includes "treading down, scraping out" per Strong's Lexicon.

 

[Dave RP]

Currently today, from the non-frozen parts of the world, there are more insects in any one square mile during the summer months than there are humans on the entire planet. I don't trust claims like the article makes... it reeks of the pictures of the polar bears floating on a tiny piece of ice adrift in the Ocean about to die from global warming. What they didn't tell us is that picture was taken at an angel to make it look like they were adrift and about to die.

They, whoever they are, try to scare us into submission. I recently saw a 1938 photo of the NJ Shore and there were some buildings there that are still there today. Interesting, that after nearly 80 years, the buildings are the same distance to the water than they were in '38.

Fair enough but these were in depth studies in Germany, and there is no reason to doubt them. Whilst I am not a climate change scientist, it seems to me that by pumping into the atmosphere billions of tons of burnt fuel, we must make an impact on the climate and certainly it's changing.

There was also an article from the UK bee keepers association, the output of honey per hive has dropped 50% since the 1950's, that is a direct and easy comparison from something that has been done the same way for 60 plus years.

I accept soem stories will be scaremongering and soem exaggerated but there doesn't seem to be any reason for these people to do either.

If they're right, urgent research and action is needed. If there's nothing to worry about, well cleaning up the atmosphere and using fewer chemicals in food production can't be a bad thing can it?

 

[Dave RP]

The time will come to destroy those who destroy the earth and to reward those who serve God.
Rev 11:18 NIV "The nations were angry, and your wrath has come. The time has come for judging the dead, and for rewarding your servants the prophets and your people who revere your name, both great and small-- and for destroying those who destroy the earth."

Most informative

 

[ananda]

IMO delusion > (leads to) Greed > for Profits > Research to increase personal profits/decrease costs > Application of researched processes & chemicals > Increase yields > Destroys nature, insect life, health.

 

[Ken Rank]

Fair enough but these were in depth studies in Germany, and there is no reason to doubt them. Whilst I am not a climate change scientist, it seems to me that by pumping into the atmosphere billions of tons of burnt fuel, we must make an impact on the climate and certainly it's changing.

There was also an article from the UK bee keepers association, the output of honey per hive has dropped 50% since the 1950's, that is a direct and easy comparison from something that has been done the same way for 60 plus years.

I accept soem stories will be scaremongering and soem exaggerated but there doesn't seem to be any reason for these people to do either.

If they're right, urgent research and action is needed. If there's nothing to worry about, well cleaning up the atmosphere and using fewer chemicals in food production can't be a bad thing can it?

Dave... I appreciate you and your heart, truly. Here is my position, for what little it is worth. God gave us this creation and we have done a crappy and irresponsible job of taking care of it. We have companies that are fined $50,000 a day for pollution but continue to pollute because they make a million a day going about business as they do. We STILL have people (forgetting the bureaucracy of the governments) who just dump whatever they want wherever they want. The most littered product in the world is cigarette butts and those filters don't degrade. I have watched COPS throw them out their own windows.

All that said, a study can produce the results being paid for. The cell phone companies pay for the study and the result is heavy use MAY and OVER TIME cause cancer. Independent studies come back and it isn't "may" and it isn't "over time." Where is the truth? Who knows, maybe in the middle? Cigarette companies do the same. My point is... there is an agenda with the global change business. I am not sure to what end, control perhaps? I don't know... but I know there is an agenda... there has to be because when the side pushing it says "the debate is over" and we have not even had the debate yet, then something is wrong here.

My suggestion... stayed zealous for what you are convicted of, but double and triple check ANY statement and ALWAYS from independent and non-collusive groups. Be blessed.

 

[Ken Rank]

Fair enough but these were in depth studies in Germany, and there is no reason to doubt them. Whilst I am not a climate change scientist, it seems to me that by pumping into the atmosphere billions of tons of burnt fuel, we must make an impact on the climate and certainly it's changing.

There was also an article from the UK bee keepers association, the output of honey per hive has dropped 50% since the 1950's, that is a direct and easy comparison from something that has been done the same way for 60 plus years.

I accept soem stories will be scaremongering and soem exaggerated but there doesn't seem to be any reason for these people to do either.

If they're right, urgent research and action is needed. If there's nothing to worry about, well cleaning up the atmosphere and using fewer chemicals in food production can't be a bad thing can it?

Dave... I appreciate you and your heart, truly. Here is my position, for what little it is worth. God gave us this creation and we have done a crappy and irresponsible job of taking care of it. We have companies that are fined $50,000 a day for pollution but continue to pollute because they make a million a day going about business as they do. We STILL have people (forgetting the bureaucracy of the governments) who just dump whatever they want wherever they want. The most littered product in the world is cigarette butts and those filters don't degrade. I have watched COPS throw them out their own windows.

All that said, a study can produce the results being paid for. The cell phone companies pay for the study and the result is heavy use MAY and OVER TIME cause cancer. Independent studies come back and it isn't "may" and it isn't "over time." Where is the truth? Who knows, maybe in the middle? Cigarette companies do the same. My point is... there is an agenda with the global change business. I am not sure to what end, control perhaps? I don't know... but I know there is an agenda... there has to be because when the side pushing it says "the debate is over" and we have not even had the debate yet, then something is wrong here.

My suggestion... stayed zealous for what you are convicted of, but double and triple check ANY statement and ALWAYS from independent and non-collusive groups. Be blessed.

 

[GeorgeJ]

 

[Dave RP]

Dave... I appreciate you and your heart, truly. Here is my position, for what little it is worth. God gave us this creation and we have done a crappy and irresponsible job of taking care of it. We have companies that are fined $50,000 a day for pollution but continue to pollute because they make a million a day going about business as they do. We STILL have people (forgetting the bureaucracy of the governments) who just dump whatever they want wherever they want. The most littered product in the world is cigarette butts and those filters don't degrade. I have watched COPS throw them out their own windows.

All that said, a study can produce the results being paid for. The cell phone companies pay for the study and the result is heavy use MAY and OVER TIME cause cancer. Independent studies come back and it isn't "may" and it isn't "over time." Where is the truth? Who knows, maybe in the middle? Cigarette companies do the same. My point is... there is an agenda with the global change business. I am not sure to what end, control perhaps? I don't know... but I know there is an agenda... there has to be because when the side pushing it says "the debate is over" and we have not even had the debate yet, then something is wrong here.

My suggestion... stayed zealous for what you are convicted of, but double and triple check ANY statement and ALWAYS from independent and non-collusive groups. Be blessed.

I agree with a healthy degree of cynicism, but on my travels I’ve seen things that are quite interesting, the glacier on top of Kilimanjaro diminishing annually, lake Titicacca shrinking, desertification in South America, rains no longer happening in Ethiopia, something is happening with the climate at the same time as industrial pollution levels have increased. Coincidence? Possibly but reducing pollution has other benefits anyway, clean air and a more pleasant environment.

As for bees, well I’ve done a bee keeping course and in a couple of years intend to get a couple oh hives - every little helps!!!!! London also needs bees!!!!

So i agree with take care, but I also look around me and don’t like some of what I see. Cheers.

 

[Ken Rank]

I agree with a healthy degree of cynicism, but on my travels I’ve seen things that are quite interesting, the glacier on top of Kilimanjaro diminishing annually, lake Titicacca shrinking, desertification in South America, rains no longer happening in Ethiopia, something is happening with the climate at the same time as industrial pollution levels have increased. Coincidence? Possibly but reducing pollution has other benefits anyway, clean air and a more pleasant environment.

As for bees, well I’ve done a bee keeping course and in a couple of years intend to get a couple oh hives - every little helps!!!!! London also needs bees!!!!

So i agree with take care, but I also look around me and don’t like some of what I see. Cheers.

I don't either, I live out in the country and often I leave my property to come to town to find an old TV or mattress or some other household item being thrown away but not where it belongs... just along the roads. Care, education... but even within it, tempered with a willingness to hear opposing views. A few years ago a team of scientists concluded a study that showed that C02 isn't the cause of heat build up, it is the result of it. We've been coming out of a small, 400 year, ice-age and their belief is that the build-up of C02 is a result of increased temps. That study will be hard to find... I read it, but it was difficult to find later when I went to reference it. There is an agenda behind some of what we have been fed.

Be blessed... and cheers back at ya.