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LynneClomina said:Bro. Gabriel, what are services like at your church?
LynneClomina said:thanks! i was curious. i've never been to a southern baptist service. i dont know if there are any southern baptists churchs this far north.
northern southern baptist churchs????
O yes, I know that they're not. This is just the traditional/historical practice of Calvinists. It is something unique to Reformed Churches. My understanding is that this is the way it was done at Geneva and most places until the mid-nineteenth century.LynneClomina said:not all calvinists are like that. my church is not.
Epiphany said:To Life Immortal
Hello. I'm about to ask stupid question #9345.
What are Calvinists? Are they the same as Church of Scotland (Presbyterians)? What are their basic beliefs? What is the tulip thing about? I tried to listen to Hank Hannegraf about it, but I still don't understand. Thanks in advance.
Peace and Long Life
~*~ Epiphany ~*~
He he he......When I just went through this, I got all sorts of free advice on what "Calvin" thought. Be careful of interpertations..they can be very misleadingKnight said:Calvinists are evil, decietful people who want to horde Christianity for their own and declare themselves "chosen of God" and therefore better than everyone else. We don't care about preaching the Gospel because we're all God's puppets anyway.
Or so some would have you believe........
For me, the hardest part was the "I".Bulldog said:LOL. It does seem like people have the toughes part with that dreaded "L" "Limited Atonement."
puriteen18 said:For me, the hardest part was the "I".
Although, I really can't see how you coudl accept only 4 of the points. For the other four to be true "L" would also have to be true, would it not?
Exactly, if Christ made atonement for all, all would be saved. Then we fall into Universalism (which oddly enough, was an off-shoot from Calvinism in the 1700s).Bulldog said:I agree with you. Take one point out, and the others don't make much sense.
What would be the point of Christ dying for all if only the elect are the ones who are saved?
Hi there ,I have been struggling with 'limited atonement' for a number of years,but I am just starting to get back into it,I mean I believed it for years but then I had my doubtspuriteen18 said:Exactly, if Christ made atonement for all, all would be saved. Then we fall into Universalism (which oddly enough, was an off-shoot from Calvinism in the 1700s).
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