What are 7th day adventists?

[heritage36]

I wasn't sure where to post this really, so hopefully here is okay, but I am curious what a 7th day adventist is and what they believe? I posted something recently that someone said was an "adventist" type of opinion, and I did not know what that meant at all. I would love to hear an answer from someone who is one personally, but either way I am curious to know, thanks everyone!

 

[Elder 111]

I wasn't sure where to post this really, so hopefully here is okay, but I am curious what a 7th day adventist is and what they believe? I posted something recently that someone said was an "adventist" type of opinion, and I did not know what that meant at all. I would love to hear an answer from someone who is one personally, but either way I am curious to know, thanks everyone!

They are christians that believe in the bible and that God law still stands including the sabbath. That Jesus is coming soon and that right now the judgement of all people is taking place so that when He comes His reward will be with Him REv.22:12-14 .

 

[heritage36]

Interesting, thanks for the input. I did a little research myself, and it seems from what I can gather that they believe in the trinity, and that the "prophet" Ellen White was a big part of their beginnings and beliefs

 

[Elder 111]

Interesting, thanks for the input. I did a little research myself, and it seems from what I can gather that they believe in the trinity, and that the "prophet" Ellen White was a big part of their beginnings and beliefs

I hope you take a close look. For many would imply that we depend on Ellen White rather than to see that we depend on the bible for our doctrines. If you read Rev. 14 1-6 in particular you would see that God is alling His people, those that keep His law.

 

[ricker]

Interesting, thanks for the input. I did a little research myself, and it seems from what I can gather that they believe in the trinity, and that the "prophet" Ellen White was a big part of their beginnings and beliefs

Adventist will not contradict any of Mrs. White's doctrinal statements. I have a real problem with a church who thinks they have a special messager from God who is their interpreter of Scripture.

They are quite law oriented, beliving we can lose our salvation by not following the laws given to Moses and the Children of Israel. Go to the Progressive or Traditional Seventh Day Adventist section here under "Faith Groups" if you really want to find out more.

Edit to add: I was raised SDA.

 

[heritage36]

I hope you take a close look. For many would imply that we depend on Ellen White rather than to see that we depend on the bible for our doctrines. If you read Rev. 14 1-6 in particular you would see that God is alling His people, those that keep His law.

I definitely plan to look into it further, elder 111. I take it that you are an adventist yourself then? I was told recently that many of my viewpoints align with those of adventists, so I am curious as to their beliefs. What is their relationship/opinions having to do with Ellen White? I love hearing the part that adventists depend on the Bible for their doctrines, as I feel many churches currently do not do that very well or enough. I am not following either what you meant with revelation 14:1-6, perhaps you could clarify for me? Thanks!

 

[Elder 111]

Adventist will not contradict any of Mrs. White's doctrinal statements. I have a real problem with a church who thinks they have a special messager from God who is their interpreter of Scripture.

I never accepted nor got the impression as a SDA that Mrs. White is our unterpreter of scripture. She is accepted by the church as being inspired, but do we not think the same of the preachers we listen to?

They are quite law oriented, beliving we can lose our salvation by not following the laws given to Moses and the Children of Israel. Go to the Progressive or Traditional Seventh Day Adventist section here under "Faith Groups" if you really want to find out more.

That is not absolutely accurate is it? It is heath laws and the sabbath that S D A accept as binding.

Edit to add: I was raised SDA.

Seem as though you did not learn what S D A realy are.

 

[Elder 111]

I definitely plan to look into it further, elder 111. I take it that you are an adventist yourself then?

Iam

I was told recently that many of my viewpoints align with those of adventists, so I am curious as to their beliefs. What is their relationship/opinions having to do with Ellen White?

SDA's see Ellen White as being ispired by God. She was never the leadernor fouder of the churchas some may think. I was earching for a statement By her, where she is quoted as saying that God people had studied the bible as they should that there would have been no need for he writings. If I find it I will sent it to you. She was against things like smoking which was accepted in her day. was she wroung? Read for yourself and judge. Her books are online. Great Controversy is a good one to start with. I will admit the some SDA do stress Ellen White too much instead of the bible but that is not a church position.

I love hearing the part that adventists depend on the Bible for their doctrines, as I feel many churches currently do not do that very well or enough. I am not following either what you meant with revelation 14:1-6, perhaps you could clarify for me? Thanks!

Sorry I should have said 6-7


6And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people, 7Saying with a loud voice, Fear God, and give glory to him; for the hour of his judgment is come: and worship him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters.
Here I wanted to show that in verse 7 It speaks of worshiping Him that is the creator. Look at theth commandment. The Creator call for a particular day to worship Him. Is not REv.14:6-7 reminding us of That?
Ex. 20

8Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy.
9Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work:
10But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates: 11For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.

Rev. 12
15And the serpent cast out of his mouth water as a flood after the woman, that he might cause her to be carried away of the flood.

16And the earth helped the woman, and the earth opened her mouth, and swallowed up the flood which the dragon cast out of his mouth. 17And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.
The woman/Church that is following God keeps His commandments. There are ten not nine. Start to keep God's sabbath and see how satan will start on you. People say that it is abolished Read act carefully and see how many times sabbath was still being kept. I will let youread it yourself instaed of giving you the texts.

 

[ricker]

I never accepted nor got the impression as a SDA that Mrs. White is our unterpreter of scripture. She is accepted by the church as being inspired, but do we not think the same of the preachers we listen to?



That is not absolutely accurate is it? It is heath laws and the sabbath that S D A accept as binding.



Seem as though you did not learn what S D A realy are.

I went through Adventist schools: elementary, academy, and college. How about you?

Can you name a doctrinal position that Mrs. White had that the demonination does not uphold? Anything at all that they disagree with her on in her many, many books and writings? Anything?
I would call her the SDA interpreter of Scripture if she wrote piles of her thoughts on Biblical positions and it is all accepted as truth by the church.

It is true that Adventists pick and choose which laws of Moses to follow.


Edit to add:I just want people to be aware of what the church is and where it comes from.

 

[heritage36]

Thank you guys for the replies and the information, it is nice to get first-hand feedback from people with a background actually knowing the Adventist beliefs. I will have to look into it more, because so far, some of the things about it I really think are great, but some I disagree with.

 

[shinbits]

I hope you take a close look. For many would imply that we depend on Ellen White rather than to see that we depend on the bible for our doctrines. If you read Rev. 14 1-6 in particular you would see that God is alling His people, those that keep His law.

So would it be fair to say, that Ellen White is ultimately not as important to you, as Joseph Smith is to the Mormans?

 

[ricker]

Thank you guys for the replies and the information, it is nice to get first-hand feedback from people with a background actually knowing the Adventist beliefs. I will have to look into it more, because so far, some of the things about it I really think are great, but some I disagree with.

May God bless and lead you as you search.

 

[heritage36]

Thanks a lot!

 

[Elder 111]

So would it be fair to say, that Ellen White is ultimately not as important to you, as Joseph Smith is to the Mormans?

I came to Seventh Day Adventism without Ellen White and will remain one with or without her. The doctrine of the SDA are not dependent on her but on God's word.

 

[Elder 111]

Thank you guys for the replies and the information, it is nice to get first-hand feedback from people with a background actually knowing the Adventist beliefs. I will have to look into it more, because so far, some of the things about it I really think are great, but some I disagree with.

It is great to see you seeking the truth. God will lead you, Keep close to Him.
God Bless.

 

[Znex]

Wikipedia is always helpful.

 

[pallasraven]

Can you name a doctrinal position that Mrs. White had that the demonination does not uphold? Anything at all that they disagree with her on in her many, many books and writings? Anything?

Do you disagree with the Bible?

I would call her the SDA interpreter of Scripture if she wrote piles of her thoughts on Biblical positions and it is all accepted as truth by the church.

And what exactly do you call people who write devotional books for any denomination? Her books are reflections on Biblical principals. She didn't rewrite the Bible. She didn't add anything. She reflected. Like any person who writes devotionals or Bible studies does. And of course that is accepted. Generally, and I will admit that there are, of course, slip ups (bound to happen in any sect, as we are human), SDA's try to uphold Bible teachings. So logically, if White reflects upon Biblical principals and teachings, wouldn't it follow that Adventists would naturally accept her writings as truth?

It is true that Adventists pick and choose which laws of Moses to follow.

No, we don't pick and choose. We follow the Ten Commandments and those laws which weren't fulfilled by Christ's coming. Like the Bible says. How is that picking and choosing?

 

[ricker]

Do you disagree with the Bible?


And what exactly do you call people who write devotional books for any denomination? Her books are reflections on Biblical principals. She didn't rewrite the Bible. She didn't add anything. She reflected. Like any person who writes devotionals or Bible studies does. And of course that is accepted. Generally, and I will admit that there are, of course, slip ups (bound to happen in any sect, as we are human), SDA's try to uphold Bible teachings. So logically, if White reflects upon Biblical principals and teachings, wouldn't it follow that Adventists would naturally accept her writings as truth?

News flash! Virtually all Christian denominations believe they following the Bible closer than anyone else!

Adventism has some quite unique doctrines that were, if not all originated by, were certainly confirmed by Mrs. White's many visions. Again, can you name any teaching Mrs. White had that is not held as absolute truth by Adventists?

I'm not saying SDA doctrine is all wrong or anything like that. I'm just saying that the doctrinal path was forged by EGW and her understanding, which she said was through visions, on any given Bible passage is taken as absolute truth. Some of these doctrines are not confirmed by most serious theologians who prayerfully study the Bible and search for truth.


Edit to add: Most Christian Bible scholars (and I) would/do think that my LCMS Lutheran church follows the Bible a lot closer than the SDA church does.

 

[Elder 111]

News flash! Virtually all Christian denominations believe they following the Bible closer than anyone else!

Adventism has some quite unique doctrines that were, if not all originated by, were certainly confirmed by Mrs. White's many visions. Again, can you name any teaching Mrs. White had that is not held as absolute truth by Adventists?

I'm not saying SDA doctrine is all wrong or anything like that. I'm just saying that the doctrinal path was forged by EGW and her understanding, which she said was through visions, on any given Bible passage is taken as absolute truth. Some of these doctrines are not confirmed by most serious theologians who prayerfully study the Bible and search for truth.


Edit to add: Most Christian Bible scholars (and I) would/do think that my LCMS Lutheran church follows the Bible a lot closer than the SDA church does.

Give a few examples.

 

[ricker]

Give a few examples.

I really didn't want to go here. Don't you believe me that virtually all denominations believe they are following the Bible as close as possible? I guess you asked for it.



For one, there are about 6 places in the new testament that says the clean/unclean food laws are done away with, and Adventiists choose to ignore or try to explain them away.