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Take a look around the world and you will see that the most desperately poor countries on earth are the most religious (apart from the oil rich countries, and they would be if they didn't have oil)
even in America the desperate parts are where religion thrives and academic achievement is lowest.
But what if religion follows, not leads, that trend?Take a look around the world and you will see that the most desperately poor countries on earth are the most religious (apart from the oil rich countries, and they would be if they didn't have oil)
even in America the desperate parts are where religion thrives and academic achievement is lowest.
Take a look around the world and you will see that the most desperately poor countries on earth are the most religious (apart from the oil rich countries, and they would be if they didn't have oil)
even in America the desperate parts are where religion thrives and academic achievement is lowest.
I want you to believe whatever you want, my opinion should not be allowed to influance you in any way, if you want to believe there is a God then for you there is a God.Isn't that what you are saying?
So you dont believe not because there isn't a God but because no one can prove that there is a God,
You can believe whatever helps you stay religious, it's all down to you.Correlation does not equal causation. It could be that poverty provides fertile ground for the hope in a better life after death. Or it could be complete chance. You're assuming causation without evidence.
You aren't really making a good case with snarky or sarcastic remarks. Science doesn't back up the claim you made plain and simple. You have no desire to learn, or expand the little knowledge you seem to have about religion in general and with that I have no idea why you would want to be a part of a forum where religious discussion happens for the sake of learning and getting past misconceptions. You're posting really suggests you have no desire to do either."Correlation does not imply causation" is a phrase used in science and statistics to emphasize that correlation between two variables does not automatically imply that one causes the other (though it does not remove the fact that correlation can still be a hint, whether powerful or otherwise[1][2]).
The opposite belief, correlation proves causation, is a logical fallacy by which two events that occur together are claimed to have a cause-and-effect relationship.
You can believe whatever helps you stay religious, it's all down to you.
My age has nothing to do with it, in fact I could ask you the same thing, what are you doing still believing the stories you were told as a child? and if you were not told the stories what are you doing believing them now? you are grown up now and should know better.
I like this post.As a child I was told stories of how water evaporates and how it condenses in a process of the water cycle. I was told stories of how electricity passes through a circuit, and stories of how World War 2 started, of how the Tudors governed Medieval England and stories of how the Ancient Egyptians live. Just because a child hears a story, does that mean they have to discount such a story when they grow older? Does a story grow redundant or less true as a human being ages? Of course not.
Now, the reason WW, myself and others on here think you have not yet fully completed basic education is that your arguments lack structure or style. Y'know, I'd like to see some revolutionary atheistic arguments, ones which I can give a second thought to and know the atheist has actually thought about their religious position. Not ones that have been refuted on numerous occassions. I need arguments that will test (and ultimately, strengthen) my faith. Not such lacklustre trivial points. I don't blame you. You've come on to this forum to learn, and undoubtedly you will learn. Perhaps by degrees, but learn nonetheless. You will get better, but as Leona Lewis once said, it shall take time.
We believe in nothing.
My age has nothing to do with it, in fact I could ask you the same thing, what are you doing still believing the stories you were told as a child? and if you were not told the stories what are you doing believing them now? you are grown up now and should know better.
Please tell me where the wisdom is in old myths about supernatural beings, I don't deny the Bible and the other religious books contain some solid ideas about life and living but the idea that there is another life after this one is nothing more than wishful thinking.
I truly believe that religions do more harm than good.
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Bingo, Dingdong - I totally agree with you. What disturbs me about it is that when these children do grow up, after getting brainwashed that the earth is 7,000 years old and finding out we are on a tiny speck of a planet in an expansive universe millions of years old it completley brings the validity of thier "SCRIPTURES" into question.
Think about it - teach our children the truth about everything we are learning about the Earth and Space or continue on with these myths replacing that truth?
I'm O.K. with ledgends but I don't think they need to preceed reality.
Bingo, Dingdong - I totally agree with you. What disturbs me about it is that when these children do grow up, after getting brainwashed that the earth is 7,000 years old and finding out we are on a tiny speck of a planet in an expansive universe millions of years old it completley brings the validity of thier "SCRIPTURES" into question.
Think about it - teach our children the truth about everything we are learning about the Earth and Space or continue on with these myths replacing that truth?
I'm O.K. with ledgends but I don't think they need to preceed reality.
I do not need to make a case the people who say there is a God are the ones who need to make a case.You aren't really making a good case with snarky or sarcastic remarks. Science doesn't back up the claim you made plain and simple. You have no desire to learn, or expand the little knowledge you seem to have about religion in general and with that I have no idea why you would want to be a part of a forum where religious discussion happens for the sake of learning and getting past misconceptions. You're posting really suggests you have no desire to do either.
My lack of concrete research and evidenced support .....forgive me... please tell me about the concrete research and evidenced support that has been done on proving the existence of Gods.Your lack of concrete research and evidenced support for your statements makes happy librarian sad. Your insistence that this is an intellectually superior position makes sad librarian angry. Angry librarian become hateful librarian. Hateful librarian becomes Sith librarian.
So someone saying they do not believe in your God just reinforces the truth of your belief system, I can see that,And, as I'm fond of saying, you realize that your behavior demonstrates the correctness of my belief system, don't you? Not in the "Oh, look at the persecution!" way, either. You're behaving exactly how you wish to behave. Whether it is correct or not is not my place to judge...that's between you and your non-God...your AL-LA*.
Do you tell them that Santa Claus is a real person and ask them to believe it all of their lives? no because Santa Claus is not a real person,Which ideas do I hold that are "dangerous" or will cause my children harm to pass on?
A broad brush is necessary because we always need to leave you with a way out.more painting with a broad brush
Do you tell them that Santa Claus is a real person and ask them to believe it all of their lives? no because Santa Claus is not a real person,
so why do you tell them about Gods that don't exist? why don't you just teach them to be good people and leave out the myths?
Sadly neither will Christians, they just think they do/will.ό ων;54219890 said:Without Faith in the Christian G*d, you will never experience a miracle. You will never pray and be healed from a disease. You will never pray for others and see healing. You will never experience speaking in different languages (but not getting schooled for it). You will never interpret dreams. You will never prophesy. You will never experience G*d's wisdom. You will never be able to differentiate between spirits. Finally, you will not be brought back to life. G*d bless.
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