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What about the Samaritans?

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Kimberlyann

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I know Jesus came to the Lost Sheep of the House of Israel. But didn't also minister to the Samaritans and many of them believed?

John 4:39-4239 And many of the Samaritans of that city believed on him for the saying of the woman, which testified, He told me all that ever I did. John 4:39-4240 So when the Samaritans were come unto him, they besought him that he would tarry with them: and he abode there two days. John 4:39-4241 And many more believed because of his own word; John 4:39-4242 And said unto the woman, Now we believe, not because of thy saying: for we have heard him ourselves, and know that this is indeed the Christ, the Saviour of the world.
 

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What about the Gentiles that Jesus ministered to?

Here is a article I found helpful:


I. Jesus' Ministry According to the Bible
Is limited to Israel
  1. Mt 15:21-26=Mk 7:24-27. "I was sent only to the lost sheep of Israel."
  2. Mt 10:5-6. Jesus sent the twelve disciples to the lost sheep of Israel only.
  3. Jesus' ministry on earth, and that of his disciples while he was here, was confined mostly within the bounds of Israel, and they ministered almost exclusively to Jews. Note particularly verses such as Lk 13:16 & 19:9-10.
Is to the whole world
  1. Even in the Matthew references above, Jesus ministers to the Canaanite woman and her daughter (Mt 15:28 = Mk 7:29-30), he tells his disciples that they will witness before Gentiles (Mt 10:18). Moreover, though his ministry was primarily to Jews it was not confined solely to them. Jesus did journey into the Gentile areas of Tyre, Sidon, and the Decapolis (a mostly Gentile area); spent time in the half Jew, half Gentile province of Samaria (Mk 7:24, 31; Lk 9:52; Jn 4:4-5); and he did minister to non-Jews (more details on all of this below). Obviously then Jesus' words in Mt 10:6 & 15:24, while true, are not to be taken in an absolute sense such that they exclude any possibility of Jesus' ministry also being to a larger target group.
  2. Jesus spoke positively of, healed, and preached to some Samaritans (who were half Jew and half Gentile) - Lk 9:51-56; 10:29-37; 17:11-19; Jn 4:1-42.
  3. He sent his twelve disciples to a Samaritan village to prepare things for his visit there (Lk 9:52). He sent the Gadarene demoniac to preach in the Decapolis (Mk 5:18-20).
  4. He healed Gentiles and taught at least a few Greeks - Mt 4:23-25; 8:5-13 = Lk 7:2-10; Mt 15:27-28 = Mk 7:28-30; Jn 12:20-22. The Gadarene demoniac, whom Jesus healed, was probably also a Gentile, as he resided in an area where pigs were raised and came from the mostly heathen area known as the Decapolis - Mt 8:28-34 = Mk 5:1-20.
  5. Of the few compliments he gave (I could only find seven), three were to non-Jews - Mt 8:10 = Lk 7:9; Mt 15:28; Lk 17:17-19. Cf Mt 11:7-11 = Lk 7:24-28; Mt 18:4; 26:10,13; Jn 1:47.
  6. He often accused the Jews of having less faith than the Gentiles, and spoke of God's special care for the Gentiles - Mt 3:9 (the words of John the Baptist); Mt 10:15; Mt 11:21-24 = Lk 10:12-15; Mt 12:41-42 = Lk 11:30-32; Mt 21:42-43; Lk 4:25-30.
  7. He cleansed the temple at least partially for the sake of the Gentiles - Mk 11:17. Cf Is 56:6-7; Jer 7:11.
  8. According to Jesus' own words, his mission is universal: a) His death is meant to accomplish the redemption of all mankind - Mt 20:28 = Mk 10:45; Jn 3:16; 4:42; 12:32; etc. b) His gospel message was to be preached to all mankind - Mt 10:18; 24:14; 28:18-20; Mk 13:10; 14:9; 16:15; Lk 4:25-30; 24:47; Jn 17:20-21: Acts 1:8. c) His kingdom includes people of all nations - Mt 8:11-12; 21:43; 25:31-32; Lk 13:28-30; Jn 10:16; 11:52.
  9. The genealogy of Jesus includes two Gentile woman, Rahab and Ruth (Mt 1:5). Also the magi from the east played a major part at the birth of the new born king (Mt 2:1-12). Thus both his lineage and the signs accompanying his birth intimate that his future ministry would impact all nations.
  10. According to Old Testament prophecy, the mission of the Christ was to be universal - Gn 12:3; Is 2:2; 9:1; 40:5; 42:1,4 = Mt 12:18,21; 49:6; 60:1-3; Mc 4:1-5; 5:4; Zc 9:9-10; etc.

  1. Is to the Jew first then to the Gentiles
  1. Is 49:5-6; Lk 24:47; Ac 1:8; 3:25-26; 11:15-18; 13:46-48; Ro 1:16; 2:9-11; 15:8-9.



    [*]Conclusion
    Jesus' ministry before his death, resurrection and ascension was primarily to the Jews, though far from being restricted to them. After these events he sent out his disciples, whom he had thoroughly prepared, into all the world with his message of good news of salvation by grace (Mt 28:18-20, etc). That is why Jesus knows, when he hears that the Greeks are pressing to see Him (Jn 12:20-22), that his hour of death is imminent (12:23-24, 27). For Jesus must suffer, die and be glorified before his universal message of salvation (12:32) can be carried to the Gentile world.


 
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Kimberlyann said:


  1. [*]Conclusion
    Jesus' ministry before his death, resurrection and ascension was primarily to the Jews, though far from being restricted to them. After these events he sent out his disciples, whom he had thoroughly prepared, into all the world with his message of good news of salvation by grace (Mt 28:18-20, etc). That is why Jesus knows, when he hears that the Greeks are pressing to see Him (Jn 12:20-22), that his hour of death is imminent (12:23-24, 27). For Jesus must suffer, die and be glorified before his universal message of salvation (12:32) can be carried to the Gentile world.



So, where in the above scriptures posted does it say about the good news of salvation by grace. The 12 were still talking about repent and be baptized and they were preaching to the Jews only.
:amen:
 
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Israel was the channel through which people could believe the gospel of the kingdom. People saved into the 'kingdom church' already in existence at that time...were either jews or proselytes.
The Lord Himself says in ...
John 4:22 Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for SALVATION IS OF THE JEWS.

Perhaps tychie or someone else could confirm this... I think Christ only dealt with 2 people who were not jews (I will check this out and get back to you about this).

It does not change what he says about his earthly ministry...Matthew 15:24 But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.
Romans 15:8 Now I say that Jesus Christ was a minister of the circumcision for the truth of God, to confirm the promises made unto the fathers:
 
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biblebeliever123 said:
Perhaps tychie or someone else could confirm this... I think Christ only dealt with 2 people who were not jews (I will check this out and get back to you about this).
Jesus dealt (all-be-it seemingly grudgingly) with a few Gentiles.

The most notable would be the woman who pleaded and He ignored until they corrected themselves and plead THROUGH one of the Israelites (the Apostles ... even though they had hoped that the Lord would shew her away). She referred to herself as a dog ... a common reference in that day. She plead for crumbs ... left overs.

This plea was heard as yes she acknowledged her roll ... and she came through Israel ... the perscribed approach.

The other was the man who's daughter was dying and approached Jesus by plea through others ... the Jews ... and who asked humbly that the Lord NOT come but simply that He hear the mans plea. This was the correct approach for that era ... through Israel. The Lord heard the man straight away and granted him his hearing.

The correct approach in that era was through the Jews ...

The others were converts to Judaism. Jews by religion. Proselytes. God has ALWAYS accepted Gentiles as Jews when they converted. Don't you remember Ruth? "Your God shall be my God ... your people my people ... ".

Today we are on EQUAL standing. Quite a revolution really ... God's people sidelined for a bunch of heathens ... by Grace no less ... !!!
 
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Tychie said:
Today we are on EQUAL standing. Quite a revolution really ... God's people sidelined for a bunch of heathens ... by Grace no less ... !!!

LOL LOL...Nothing short of revolutionary to be sure, and ONE wonderful SECRET God had, ehhh???? And folks say it wasnt DIFFERENT???? Well, I can tell ya that the Jews certainly knew it was a big deal! Wink
 
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Kimberlyann said:
I know Jesus came to the Lost Sheep of the House of Israel. But didn't also minister to the Samaritans and many of them believed?

Yes. According to Jesus, Samaritans were outside the pale of Jewish worship. Jesus told the Samaritan woman, "You Samaritans worship what you do not know: we worship what we do know, for salvation is from the Jews." (John 4:22).

Also we have the witness of the Samaritans themselves who said "we know that this man really is the Savior of the world."

Lamorak Des Galis
 
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Tychicum said:
Jesus dealt (all-be-it seemingly grudgingly) with a few Gentiles.

The most notable would be the woman who pleaded and He ignored until they corrected themselves and plead THROUGH one of the Israelites (the Apostles ... even though they had hoped that the Lord would shew her away). She referred to herself as a dog ... a common reference in that day. She plead for crumbs ... left overs.

This plea was heard as yes she acknowledged her roll ... and she came through Israel ... the perscribed approach.

The other was the man who's daughter was dying and approached Jesus by plea through others ... the Jews ... and who asked humbly that the Lord NOT come but simply that He hear the mans plea. This was the correct approach for that era ... through Israel. The Lord heard the man straight away and granted him his hearing.

The correct approach in that era was through the Jews ...

The others were converts to Judaism. Jews by religion. Proselytes. God has ALWAYS accepted Gentiles as Jews when they converted. Don't you remember Ruth? "Your God shall be my God ... your people my people ... ".

Today we are on EQUAL standing. Quite a revolution really ... God's people sidelined for a bunch of heathens ... by Grace no less ... !!!
Amen..and thanks Tychie.

In time past, the channel of blessing was THROUGH ISRAEL...salvation was of the jews. According to PROPHECY gentiles would be blessed (saved) through the RISE of Israel, the chosen nation of God.
According to the MYSTERY (revealed to Paul for us) gentiles (all people) are saved through the fall of Israel. Israel has been set aside temporarily (and will be again in the future be that chosen nation, a nation of priests) while God is dealing with all people without national distinction.

Time past, BUT NOW, Ages to come :)
 
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Jesus Christ IS truly the Savior of the World, but to the Jew He is the Messiah and KING (under THEIR program) and to we the Body of Christ (consisting of ALL those in UNBELIEF; both jew and gentile alike), He is OUR head (under the present dispensation of GRACE.)

He was NOT Israels HEAD, as there didnt EXIST a body of Christ in that program. He was their prophesied MESSIAH. Their savior? Yes, certainly.
 
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