Hmm .. interesting .. (thanks for that).
I'm yet to hear of, or see, any 'servant under yoke' who willingly put themselves in that particular situation, anyway, eh?
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Hmm .. interesting .. (thanks for that).Apparently the English have been bowdlerizing the slavery references for 400+ years:
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I found this quote succinct and straight to point .. (Father Alexander Lebedeff describing the Orthodox approach):
A majority of blacks and Latinos support the teaching of creation in public schools:
Perhaps they know about how evolution has been used, ever since Darwin's The Descent of Man was published, to justify racism. Need I quote Darwin's own words again?
We're often told that chimps and humans are 98% similar, but I've also read the more recent estimation is 95%. Either way, are scientists today in any way close to explaining how natural selection acting on random mutation created the vast differences between chimps and humans?
My question is "is the selection pressure that changed chimps to humans still there?"
In other words, would chimps do better than human, given the chance?
We don't know.
Maybe other species would do better than human, given the right selection pressure?
Probably, and probably not. We just do not know because we cannot predict the future.
Normally I would act up and decry that you claim to be able to predict change from the evidence.
But I honestly believe that you don't know - that you don't know and that you wish you did.
I am not going to corner you, suffice it to say I still need a vouchsafe of some kind that you won't turn and bite at me - because I insist that belief has an active component, (an active component) that belief of an Evolutionary kind can't resist... what would you say is in my favour, if I work out a method for determining what is predictable about Evolution?
I mean what would make you say "that's different!" when it comes to my understanding of Evolution?
I've never once made a prediction about evolution so I don't think you would anyway.
We do not know what the future will be like with regard to life and evolution because we literally do not know. The future is not known so we really cannot make any long term predictions about life on earth.
... even not when demonstrably wrong.These are my personal standards:
1. Bible says x, Science says x = go with x
2. Bible says x, Science says y = go with x
3. Bible says x, Science says ø = go with x
4. Bible says ø, Science says x = go with x
5. Bible says ø, Science says ø = free to speculate on your own
Prime Directive: Under no circumstances whatsoever is the Bible to be contradicted.
Even not when demonstrably wrong.... even not when demonstrably wrong.
You honestly can't understand that when you say "humans came from chimps" you are making a prediction, without countervailing pressure, the latter will have an affinity for the former?
Sorry, I just thought that was the whole point, that because of what you discern, you are capable of predicting more?
There were no selection pressures that changed chimps to human. Chimps and humans are separate species from a common ancestor.My question is "is the selection pressure that changed chimps to humans still there?"
In other words, would chimps do better than human, given the chance?
Selection pressure does not equal evolution. It is a significant driver of evolution along with other significant drivers such genetic diversity and population.Maybe other species would do better than human, given the right selection pressure?
? A scientific hypothesis find its merit in its usefulness to predict future events.Probably, and probably not. We just do not know because we cannot predict the future.
A naïve theory of evolution.I mean what would make you say "that's different!" when it comes to my understanding of Evolution?
? A scientific hypothesis find its merit in its usefulness to predict future events.
Let me explain, based on observations ... oh, wait. That doesn't apply here. Darwin wrote a book entitled, "On the Origin of Species" without a single observation of speciation (whatever that is). Doesn't that fact put his book in the Sci-Fi section?
Do you think the discussion would be more productive if you avoided the snide, contemptuous style? I think it would.? A scientific hypothesis find its merit in its usefulness to predict future events.
Let me explain, based on observations ... oh, wait. That doesn't apply here. Darwin wrote a book entitled, "On the Origin of Species" without a single observation of speciation (whatever that is). Doesn't that fact put his book in the Sci-Fi section?
You've so thoroughly demonstrated you have onlyAs I've already stated, I took anthropology in college and had to write papers on the purported evidence for human evolution. I've also presented reasons, other than blind faith, for doubting this evidence.
The oscillations in finch beak sizes and the coloring of peppered months that we can observe in the present does not prove that natural selection acting on random mutation was responsible for the vast differences between chimps and humans. It's an extrapolation.
This is not just a matter of what's comfortable. From a pragmatic perspective, what belief is the better impetus for morality?
You are saying that to probably the biggest Ben Shapiro fan in the world. It would only be relevant to this discussion if it were already proved that natural selection acting on random mutation was responsible for the vast differences between chimps and humans.
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