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What about Mohammed?

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Your question does not make a whole lot of sense to me.

Your major premise is, is that "Jesus is the only way to heaven" and your saying that if we accept this fact, then why can't we get to heaven through Mohammed?


I guess the answer to your question is your initial statement: Jesus is the only way to heaven.
 
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Your question does not make a whole lot of since to me.

Your major premise is, is that "Jesus is the only way to heaven" and your saying that if we accept this fact, then why can't we get to heaven through Mohammed?


I guess the answer to your question is your initial statement: Jesus is the only way to heaven.


eolculnamo2,

Sorry if my question was unclear. My english isn't great.

Like you said my premise is that "Christians believe Jesus is the only way to heaven". What is implicit in this is that one can not go to heaven through Mohammed. My question is: How do you know that one can not go to heaven through Mohammed?
 
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Well, if I'm not very much mistaken, Muslims don't even believe that the way to heaven is through Mohammed, just that one must believe that Mohammed is God's prophet. Christians mean something very different when we say Christ is the only way. We not only believe that Christ is God, but that one must be part of the Body of Christ, which is why such extreme importance is placed on the eucharist. We aren't simply speaking of spiritual matters, but physical ones as well. We believe that God became man so that man can become like God. Via the incarnation, we now have a way to know God and work out our salvation.

To a Christian, there is no reason for anything else, but it is quite apparent that Mohammed was influenced by Christianity. Muslims pray facing East, just like we do , they make prostrations, just like we do, they use prayer beads, just like we do, they have a rigorous fast, just like we do, they even believe that Christ was born of a virgin, just like we do. (Which ties directly to Christ being God, so they believe something without knowing the reason behind it.) It's too bad that Mohammed himself couldn't submit to God.
 
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Well, if I'm not very much mistaken, Muslims don't even believe that the way to heaven is through Mohammed, just that one must believe that Mohammed is God's prophet.

Is this bad? Is it false?

To a Christian, there is no reason for anything else, but it is quite apparent that Mohammed was influenced by Christianity. Muslims pray facing East, just like we do , they make prostrations, just like we do, they use prayer beads, just like we do, they have a rigorous fast, just like we do, they even believe that Christ was born of a virgin, just like we do. (Which ties directly to Christ being God, so they believe something without knowing the reason behind it.) It's too bad that Mohammed himself couldn't submit to God.
So Islam was influenced by Christianity in the same way as Christianity was by Judaism?
So can muslims claim that Islam is an improved version of Christianity?
 
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Is this bad? Is it false?
Mohammed was the prophet of himself and his own views.

So Islam was influenced by Christianity in the same way as Christianity was by Judaism?
So can muslims claim that Islam is an improved version of Christianity?
Not from our perspective. Muslims can claim what they like and they do say just that. However, it is such an extreme divergence from Christianity in what it teaches.

Have you read the Quran and Al-Hadith? I did, back when I was trying to decide if I should accept a religious faith, if any. Islam did not ring true, and the big deciding factor was the fruits it produces. It appears to be a very spiritually damaging religion.
 
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2 Peter 1:3 (King James Version)




3According as his divine power hath given unto us all things that pertain unto life and godliness, through the knowledge of him that hath called us to glory and virtue: (66 A.D.)
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It is very suprising to me how so many Christians do not voice this. The scriptures teach that what the 1st century Christians had is all that mankind was to have from God.
 
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Is it true that Christians believe that the only way to heaven is through Jesus? If this is true, then my follow-up question is: why is there no way to heaven through Mohammed?

IMO (when I was searching for this) the teachings of Mohammed should logically follow on from the Tanakh (the Old Testament) and the Gospel, if he was the final prophet from God. Things such as praying towards the temple of the Lord in Jerusalem (1 Kings 8:42), the fact that Messiah died and was resurrected (Isaiah 53 & Matthew 27 & 28) to name a few. The fact that the Qu'ran should contain the Name that the Lord gave Moses (Exodus 3:14, & Jesus' Hebrew Name contains the same Name which is why His Name means "the Lord's Salvation").

In Islam, the Qu'ran denies the death and resurrection of Jesus and Muslims are mandated to pray towards Mecca. God is only known as Allah the equivalent in English of which is "God". Granted Allah has 99 different attributes but not one contains His Name that according to the previous Holy Books, all nations would know Him by.

God does not create confusion and so only one can be true.

When I was an athiest I asked a similar question. What also swayed me was the non Biblical evidence which supported the Message of the Gospel (John 14:6) over the Islamically swayed evidence which only supported the Qu'ran.

This is a big topic and the above is not exclusively the kinds of things I looked into. It was just a little bit towards why I believed that Mohammed's teachings were not the way to heaven.
 
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Is it true that Christians believe that the only way to heaven is through Jesus? If this is true, then my follow-up question is: why is there no way to heaven through Mohammed?
Mohammed, in Islamic thinking, is not equivalent to Jesus in Christian thinking. Mohammed is supposed to be only a prophet - albeit the last and greatest of those. The instrument of divine revelation in Islam isn't Mohammed but the Koran - that's the closest equivalent Islam has to Jesus. And that illustrates the most basic difference between the two faiths - Islam is founded on a supposedly eternal text of supposedly eternal truths. Christianity is founded on an historical person and an historical event rather than timeless truths.
 
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why is there no way to heaven through Mohammed?

According to Islam, only Allah decides who goes to paradise. (Their word and equivalent of heaven.)
Mohammed, according to Islam, was only a prophet and only a man. They do not claim he was the Saviour of the world. They claim that Islam itself is the salvation of the world. And that requires, by necessity being a Muslim.

As to the rest of your posts in this thread, I don't really see your question, unless you are trying to ask "Why is Christianity true and why is Islam NOT true?"

The answer is: Because the Universe is a logical place, both concepts cannot be ultimately true. At best, one of them has to be incorrect.
Now as to what makes something "true" or "untrue" is entirely your decision and your responsibility. And that requires serious critical thinking on your part since you are the one who is asking the question. None of us can really answer it for you to your satisfaction.
 
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Is this bad? Is it false?

So Islam was influenced by Christianity in the same way as Christianity was by Judaism?

So can muslims claim that Islam is an improved version of Christianity?

Actually, this is a very astute observation on your part. Mohammed himself was in fact influenced by Christianity and by Judaism, having had contact with Orthodox Christian monks, and Jewish rabbis. Hence, there is a great deal in Islam that originally came from these two worlds such as the prostrations (Orthodox Christians but which are highly exaggerated as practiced in the Islamic world) and incense and offerings to Allah (the Jewish world).

At best, one might postulate (and some people do) that Islam is no more than a Christian heresy since it acknowledges Christ as a man (even a "perfect" one), but not fully divine. This is known as the Nestorian heresy named for Nestorius, a theologian in the 5th century. Personally, I think this is a stretch, but I include it for completeness sake.
 
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Is it true that Christians believe that the only way to heaven is through Jesus? If this is true, then my follow-up question is: why is there no way to heaven through Mohammed?

Hi, Yes, Jesus is the way, the truth and the life.

Not a way, but the way.

I don't know anything about Mohammed but I do know there is one God.

As you would know then, mainstream Christians believe God is One in the Father, Son (Jesus), Holy Spirit - one God described as in 3 persons which is a weird way to describe it, but is what is commonly used.

The reason there is no way to heaven through Mohammed is because he is not God.

I'm sure you've heard the gospel; but all have sinned, and Jesus died for our sin and was resurrected. We believe/trust/have faith in God, Jesus, and when we do such we are born again, new creations. For me, I had never lived until I came to Jesus at 33 years old.

I believe many Christians feel the same. At first when we come to Jesus, many know very little about God, and we grow in Christ once we have been born again as it's called. The Holy Spirit indwells us upon trusting Christ.

For me, when such occurred, I no longer desired my old life; my world changed as I read the bible and my mind was changed by things I read and learned about.

I don't know if you feel in your heart that Muhammed is the truth, but is how Christians feel and know. God is truth, Jesus is God.

I wasn't raised with religion, nor ever thought of things to do with God or eternity or anything.

As happened to me happens to many; though many are raised with a faith or belief or have at least heard about Jesus, again, none of which I had any of such.

A recent sermon I heard was very good. The pastor said one question he gets asked all the time is what about the rest of the world, as the ot seems to be about Israel and nt about Christians; didn't God care about others?

And the pastor answered yes, but many do focus on the Hebrews and believers in Christ in Jesus' time.

So, it's not about Israel, it's not about Christians, it's about every human being ever lived who God loves dearly and all are precious and we Chrisitans believe, that God calls us to Him and we can't really explain many of us why we heard when we heard, why we believed, but we did. Some can explain it; but many can not.

Such as were it 3 months earlier with what occurred that brought me to Christ, would I have committed my life to Jesus? I don't know. I can't explain all that occurred in that I came to Jesus.

There's a verse speaks to that a little I believe:

The wind blows wherever it pleases. You hear its sound, but you cannot tell where it comes from or where it is going. So it is with everyone born of the Spirit."

The verse refers to those born of the Spirit (God), but to me as well reveals the mystery or shows it is quite a mystery as to how it all comes about.

As I said, if heard 3 months before I came to Christ, no clue if I would have trusted Christ.

Thank you for the questions.
blessings,
tapero
 
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There is only one true and living God and Christ is this. Not just because I say so, but because there is overwhelming objective evidence that supports this. I'm a christian spiritually first and intellectually second. The Bible is the only book period that could only be written by God because of its very unique characteristics. One example out of many is that it has hundreds of detailed prophesies that has come true and more are being fulfilled. You may want to read Evidence that Demands A Verdict by Josh McDowell (it would stand up in court concerning biblical evidence). And Examine the Evidence by Muncaster (a former athiest). And a good website is www.reasons.org - about science and belief.

Biblical Evidence – This is a very small amount of information
out of large amounts of information out there.

Internal Evidences-Prophesies that are confirmed with Bible;

mentioning only a few – but there are hundreds.

Life of Christ
The Tribe of Judah, Gen. 49:10, Luke 3:23-28
(Genesis was written 4004 BC to 1689 BC)
(Luke’s time period is 60-70 AD)

Royal Line of David, Jer 23:5, Matt 1:1
(Jeremiah 760 to 698 BC)/(Matthew 60-70 AD)

Born of a Virgin, Isaiah 7:14/Matt 1:18-23
(Isaiah 760 to 698 BC)/(60-70 AD)

Rise of Empires
In the book of Daniel, Chapter 2 – four kingdoms are described in the interpretation
of the dream of Nebuchadnezzar the king of Babylon: Babylon, Medo-Persia, Greek – Daniel 8:21, 10:20/ and a fourth great kingdom to follow which was part iron and clay – which is the
Roman Empire – during this empire, Christ came and the church was established – Daniel 2:44.

Historical Accuracy

The Bible is loaded with historical statements concerning events of hundreds of years ago, yet
none of them has been proven to be incorrect.
(Bible compared to other ancient documents)
New Testament – starts at 25 years – between the original and surviving copies
Homer- starts at 500 years/Demosthenes – at 1400 years/Plato – at 1200 years/
Caesar – at 1000 years

Number of Manuscript Copies

New Testament – 5,686/Homer – 643/Demosthenes – 200/Plato – 7/Caesar – 10

Consistency – Written by 40 men over a period of time exceeding 1400 years, and has no
Internal inconsistencies.



Claim of Inspiration- It claims to be spoken by God, 2 Tim 3:16-17). No other religious book makes such claims.


External Evidences

(Prophesies Outside the Bible)
These cities were prophesied to be destroyed and never to be built again- and they haven’t.
Niveveh – Nahum 1:10, 3:7, 15, Zephaniah 2:13-14
Babylon – Isaiah 13:1-22
Tyre -Ezekiel 26:1-28

Bible before Science

He hangs the earth on nothing – Job 26:7
(Job was written at least 1000 years ago – some scholars think it could have been even 3000
years ago)
Note: Man only knew the above for 350 years.
Earth is a sphere – Isaiah 40:22/Air has weight – Job 28:25/
Gravity – Job 26:7, Job 38: 31-33/Winds blow in cyclones, Eccl 1:6

Documents that Prove Bible is True

Gilgamesh Epic, The Sumerian King List, Mari Tablets, Babylonian Chronicles

Archealogical Evidence (Still adding to this list today- it hasn’t stopped)
Excavations of Ur, Location of Zoar, Ziggurats and the foundation of Tower of Babel









 
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Is it true that Christians believe that the only way to heaven is through Jesus? If this is true, then my follow-up question is: why is there no way to heaven through Mohammed?
The only way to heaven is through Jesus, His payment for our entry into it.
That's what "through" means: we accept His payment for our sins.

Islam does not teach that Mohammad is the payment for our sins: just that he is a prophet.
...but the two cannot be from the same source (YHWH). God's spokespeople do not teach contrary theology.
 
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I agree w/ F.I.G.

There's SO much more that could be expounded on where Muhammed is concerned and how Islam started (according to their own written accounts and testimony)....
suffice it to say, if there is only ONE TRUE GOD (and there is), then there is no room for 2.

Jesus was God incarnate - Muhammed was a mere mortal.
Jesus was the sacrificial Lamb who died to provide atonement for the soul.
Muhammed did not - in fact, he did no miracles whatsoever to back up his testimony of Allah as any truth.

*and that's only the beginning of the many reasons
 
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Imagine for a moment, (and this is only a story for illustration purposes) imagine you wish to travel to
Pleadeus-heaven. It is in a distant galaxy. You have no means of getting there on your own. The ruler of the land,
Jehovah, builds a vehicle which is called Jesus-I in order for you to come Jesus-I is the only possible way to get
there.

Many people in many lands and many languages will have different pronunciations of Jesus-I and many spellings
too, but there is only one vehicle to get you there.

Jehovah (the ruler of Pleadeus-heaven) has made reservations in your name, but you must get on board the
vehicle yourself.

Now, many other (travel agents) want to make money selling you a ticket. But unless that ticket is for Jesus-I,
you won’t arrive where you want to.
A ticket on trans-global airlines will deliver you to Hawaii, not Pleadeus-heaven.

Many travel agents [religions] (perhaps called Catholicus, or Baptismus) will truly give you a
ticket to Pleadeus-heaven. But some charge higher prices. Sure you get your ticket, but they
burden you with other baggage.

The thing to be concerned with, is that Jesus-I only makes one trip, so you have to be on board when it leaves. If
you get on board the wrong vehicle and miss the flight, it’s too late to belly-ache to your travel agent.

I hope to see you at Pleadeus-heaven.
 
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First, let me say that as I understand it, islam is based largely on the Old Testament, as is much of Christianity. Where Christianity and Islam differ is in their respective beliefs about Christ. Christ, to Christians, is the Son of God, The Lamb of God that takes away the sins of the world. He paid the price for our sins, and if we accept God's free offer of salvation (by accepting the gift) then we spend eternity with Him.

Islam, on the other hand (again as I understand it) believes that Christ was simply another prophet, like Mohammad.

Given that Islam uses the Old Testament, it seems to me that they would/should understand the Christ is truly the Son of God. The Old Testament is full of prophecies that all came together when He was born of a virgin.

Originally, the 3 major religions (Islam, Christianity and Judaism) were on good terms with each other. Mohammad considered all 3 to be "people of the Book". The book being the OT.

I have no knowledge why Islam suddenly became so angry at both Christianity and Judasim and essentially declared holy war against us.

In short, Islam revers the OT but, apparently, ignores the New testament to a large degree. Since they believe that Christ was just another prophet, I can understand why they would not consider the necessity of accepting Him as a personal savior.

If the NT is worthless, or inaccurate, then the whole OT is equally in question as Christ Himself often quoted from the OT.

The answer to the original question is simply that if one takes the entire bible (NT and OT) at face value (which is the only way to take it) then it is clear that only those who believe in Christ and accept Him as personal savior will go to heaven.

The bible itself says that their is but one name under heaven by which we can be saved. That name is Christ.

Fred
 
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