The Barbarian
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Of course. Why didn't I think of that?
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It was fast moving water that ran very slowly.
The problem with holding to a non-creation \ non-global flood is very simple: it's a rejection of God's Word.
No, its a rejection of the authoritarian churches false doctrine of the inspiration of the scripture that they themselves wrote!
The only thing that drown in the Israelites flood myth was common sense! Seems they were having difficulty tracing their blood lines back to Adam when they were appropriating Mesopotamian history, so they drown the whole world to fill the gap!
No, its a rejection of the authoritarian churches false doctrine of the inspiration of the scripture that they themselves wrote!
I see that you label yourself as a Christian seeker.Scientists solve mystery of mass whale graveyard in Chile
Barbarian asks:
The Coconino sandstone is made of great deposits of eroded rock, forming desert dunes, which were subsequently buried and hardened.
How did this get formed in soft sediment by very fast moving water?
So, from where does your evidence come about the extent of the flood?
Peter and Paul aren't God, their words were sincere opinions about the world in an age of ignorance. They didn't know anything about evolution or the age of the earth etc.As stated before … it's a rejection of God's Word.
2 Peter 3
"Above all, you must understand that in the last days scoffers will come, scoffing and following their own evil desires. …. they deliberately forget that long ago by God’s word the heavens came into being and the earth was formed out of water and by water.
By these waters also the world of that time was deluged and destroyed.
Bear in mind that our Lord’s patience means salvation, just as our dear brother Paul also wrote you with the wisdom that God gave him. He writes the same way in all his letters, speaking in them of these matters. His letters contain some things that are hard to understand, which ignorant and unstable as they do the other Scriptures, to their own destruction.
I'm a seeker of truth beyond the superstition from an enchanted age. I'm skeptical of the wild claims written by the kind of men who killed the Son of God.I see that you label yourself as a Christian seeker.
I looks to me like you are a skeptic of the scriptures.
Keep seeking and perhaps the Lord will lead you out of the darkness you obviously walk in currently.
Above all, you must understand that in the last days scoffers will come, scoffing and following their own evil desires. …. they deliberately forget that long ago by God’s word the heavens came into being and the earth was formed out of water and by water.
By these waters also the world of that time was deluged and destroyed.
Bear in mind that our Lord’s patience means salvation, just as our dear brother Paul also wrote you with the wisdom that God gave him. He writes the same way in all his letters, speaking in them of these matters. His letters contain some things that are hard to understand, which ignorant and unstable as they do the other Scriptures, to their own destruction.
You say you're not an atheist but have just defined science through the lens of atheism. You should do some history research and find out who those founding fathers of modern science were and where their dedication to the Lord took civilization. Atheists have only brought modern civilization down to her knees, now making her submissive to Islam and anarchy. Such a shame.OP, I am not in any way an atheist.
but I tell you, if you wish to be a scientist, then you must approach the search for the truth with an open mind. and currently you are not doing that. Because you have already decided what is 'right' and what is 'wrong' ... before you even consider the facts. And that is not science.
The uplift of mountains is well established. Do you think that scientists simply make this stuff up? In fact, measurements of changes in the Earth's surface are routinely done with high-accuracy GPS. The science is data -driven. And for example, uplift rates in places like the Himalayas are very high. And this is very consistent with the theory of Plate Tectonics.
If you choose to ignore measured facts, that can be a personal decision for you. Personally, it may be OK. But you would do a great disservice to the minds of our young people, esp. those in church-based education, if you teach falsehoods and call them the truth.
There is no science supporting the Young Earth hypothesis. Current estimates for the age of the Earth range from 4.2 billion to 4.6 billion years old. No doubt these estimates will be refined in the future.
Blessings!!
Evolutionists say it was an asteroid and creationists say it was the Flood. If you take either view as its stated in theory without criticizing either theory for things not agreed with, what you end up getting is an earth where the carbon balance is messed up to the point where modern dating methods will not work. Also, evolutionists have been busted playing with the dates until they get the date that best support their scheme on science. There is no way of knowing dating method that far back even work. Its not verifiable science and therefore cannot be accepted as science. Such philosophy is useless talk and it doesn't explain-away how whales got up on the Andes. It just deviates from the problem that evolutionists are faced with and they knew its a problem which is why modern theories are including a near global flood to make up for the problem. But thats a retreat from their standard theory that firestorms create sedimentary rock.How old is the Nazca Plate?
"Nazca is a relatively young plate both in terms of the age of its rocks and its existence as an independent plate having been formed from the break-up of the Farallon Plate about 23 million years ago. The oldest rocks of the plate are about 50 million years old."
World Heritage Encyclopedia
Which men were those?I'm a seeker of truth beyond the superstition from an enchanted age. I'm skeptical of the wild claims written by the kind of men who killed the Son of God.
No, evolutionist don't say an asteroid causes the movements of the plates which elevated ancient sea floors up to become todays mountains.Evolutionists say it was an asteroid and creationists say it was the Flood. If you take either view as its stated in theory without criticizing either theory for things not agreed with, what you end up getting is an earth where the carbon balance is messed up to the point where modern dating methods will not work. Also, evolutionists have been busted playing with the dates until they get the date that best support their scheme on science. There is no way of knowing dating method that far back even work. Its not verifiable science and therefore cannot be accepted as science. Such philosophy is useless talk and it doesn't explain-away how whales got up on the Andes. It just deviates from the problem that evolutionists are faced with and they knew its a problem which is why modern theories are including a near global flood to make up for the problem. But thats a retreat from their standard theory that firestorms create sedimentary rock.
Which men were those?
Moses, Matthew, Mark, Luke, John, and Paul are not among those of the kind who killed the Son of God were they?
All of them confirm the traditional view of creation and would not support the idea of evolution.
Correct Biblical exegesis defines what "world" means … there are many Scriptures where "world" does not mean "everything in our area". I won't bother with all of them, these two will suffice:This applies to creationists as well as to anyone else. The Bible, of course, doesn't say the whole earth was destroyed. So what does "world" mean in the Bible?
Luke 2:1 And it came to pass in those days, that there went out a decree from Caesar Augustus, that all the world should be taxed.
So it means something like "everything in our area."
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