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I watched about a third of it.
That's about how much I got through too. Couldn't take any more.
Aside @ Thobe: I agree with you completely. It's pretty hypocritical to preach smaller government but then want to police a lot of people's personal freedoms. I consider myself to be fiscally conservative and socially liberal, but since I like my civil liberties better than I like my money, I tend to vote left. (Also because, after the spending increase we saw during the Bush years, I feel like the political right are talking the talk more than walking it.) [/tangent]
The stupid unwavering grin is there to keep the creationist numb nuts happy, they think she is doing a great job so she's playing to them, anyone with a brain can see right through her but she is not the least bit concerned about those people, she is talking to the creationists who believe that every word she's saying is true, she knows the audience she's aiming at.Urgh. Wendy Wright. The stupid, unwavering grin even as she makes a total clown of herself. Oh well, it's an argument for education if nothing else, even if it painful to watch.
You've missed two semicolons.God i hope someone found that funny.
I certainly wish that my German was as bad as your English, I would be very pleased indeed.You've missed two semicolons.
I think I've watched this before, at least parts of it. But I am very happy, that my English is not good enough to understand every word of it.
God i hope someone found that funny.
And....the forum is not very nice to my formatting, making my poorly written java much harder to read.
This saw a recent spotlight in the internet atheist community, so I figured I'd share it here as it's related to the conflict between creationists and knowledge. I recommend creationists and rationalists both check it out.
Thanks, I kinda enjoyed it. But there were several moments where I thought some obvious points needed to be made and where Dawkins let her off the hook. For instance her equating evolution and atheism I think should have been pursued more, since it's a bald-faced lie; how science is descriptive but not prescriptive; her claim that scientists say we evolved from slime should have been addressed; the point that religion shouldn't be taught in science class needed to be made. There were so many of her ridiculous claims that were left untouched, and perhaps it's partly due to Dawkins not being used to debating creationists, caring more about the science than addressing these people's misinformation about science.
Of course it's important to keep in mind that it was intended more like an interview than a debate, so he let her do most of the talking, which is understandable since he was making a TV program about these beliefs.
Peter
Thanks, I kinda enjoyed it. But there were several moments where I thought some obvious points needed to be made and where Dawkins let her off the hook. For instance her equating evolution and atheism I think should have been pursued more, since it's a bald-faced lie;
... how science is descriptive but not prescriptive;
... her claim that scientists say we evolved from slime should have been addressed;
... the point that religion shouldn't be taught in science class needed to be made.
There were so many of her ridiculous claims that were left untouched, and perhaps it's partly due to Dawkins not being used to debating creationists, caring more about the science than addressing these people's misinformation about science.
Of course it's important to keep in mind that it was intended more like an interview than a debate, so he let her do most of the talking, which is understandable since he was making a TV program about these beliefs.
Peter
Dawkins was at two disadvantages there. He was determined to try to keep the debate focused as much as possible on the fossil evidence, and he is himself an atheist with limited knowledge of American fundamentalism. He kept trying to address that issue by mentioning the (Anglican) bishops who accept evolution.
Yes, that was definitely a lost opportunity.
To be fair, he did try. The problem there is that he is too used to being allowed into the back rooms and storage areas of the museums, where the bulk of the fossils are kept and studied. Wendi (use of the cute "ditzy" spelling deliberate) has only been in the public exhibition rooms where the reconstructed species are displayed in dioramas, and she felt that these displays are more propaganda than evidence. She would voice that objection and change the subject every time, leaving Dawkins scrambling to catch up.
He fell into the trap of accepting "Darwinian" as a valid synonym for utilitarian. And, worse, he didn't recognize (or at least didn't argue against) the false dichotomy between this utilitarian philosophy and fundamentalist Christianity. If he had made these points, her argument would have collapsed.
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