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We all will die -- Can we know when?

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Do those of God's ecclesia/ekklesia, believe God will tell us when we will die, if we ask him?

“O Lord, make me know my end and what is the measure of my days; let me know how fleeting I am!” | Psalm39:4

I believe I know when I am going to die: the first week in May, 2028, at end of my 73rd year.
 
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I would rather not know, as my hope is that Jesus returns one of these days.

I personally don't believe that information is for us to know anyways. In all likelihood you could die much sooner or later than that date, and I wonder where exactly you got it from.
 
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I would rather not know either. I have been afraid of death for a long time, at some times more than others. I think if I knew when I was going to die, I would just become preoccupied with that, and I wouldn't find joy in life anymore.

Each and every day is a gift, and it's all we have. We are never promised tomorrow, so I would rather just appreciate each day as it comes.
 
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This was a prayer/song of King David and there is only a few times where death times were known: 1. when Samson collapsed the Colosseum, 2. when the thief repented to Christ, 3. others I do not remember.
God might advise one of a time of death but I do not believe there is any guarantee implied by His telling others. I think I know the year Christ will return but still have no idea when.
I may or may not finish dying before then and do not want to know. I want to die eventually just to experience what humanity always does.
 
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I would rather not know either. I have been afraid of death for a long time, at some times more than others. I think if I knew when I was going to die, I would just become preoccupied with that, and I wouldn't find joy in life anymore.

This is indeed true for many. I actually was given a second chance at life, which I think liberates the perspective a bit (since all my time going forward was given to me). The truth is if you fear death there is a problem there.

The Bible says "fear not" so many times (it's one of the most common phrases in the Bible). Anyone who loves this world more than God, has a serious spiritual problem. And if you fear death more than God, that is a problem. Fearing death is a symptom of either a lack of faith (thus doubting that death leads to paradise) in the existence of God and/or your own salvation OR it shows you have a very strong attachment to this world, which Jesus strongly warns against:

"Anyone who loves their father or mother more than me is not worthy of me; anyone who loves their son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me. Whoever does not take up their cross and follow me is not worthy of me. Whoever finds their life will lose it, and whoever loses their life for my sake will find it."
- Matthew 10:37-39 (the whole chapter 10 is worth reading on this subject).
 
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Yes, I do agree with what you're saying and the Bible verses you shared. However, a lot of the issue for me is my anxiety disorder. I have struggled with anxiety my entire life, and I've always been a worrier. In my early to mid 20s I started having panic attacks and I have been on medication now for about 8 years.

Anyway, I know we are not to cling to this life and I do pray God gives me the strength to follow Him and stand firm no matter what happens in this life.
 
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The Bible says "fear not" so many times (it's one of the most common phrases in the Bible). Anyone who loves this world more than God, has a serious spiritual problem. And if you fear death more than God, that is a problem. Fearing death is a symptom of either a lack of faith (thus doubting that death leads to paradise) in the existence of God and/or your own salvation OR it shows you have a very strong attachment to this world, which Jesus strongly warns against:
Very well said derGroßmütige
As far as wanting to know when I am going to die, I dont think I would want to know either. I believe for some according to some stories I have heard is that they kind of had a knowing when their time was close but not exact time. The Bible also says we will not all die
1 Corinthians 15:51-53 (KJV)
51 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,

52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.

53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.
 
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We were bought at a price—we don't own ourselves. As was implied, when we will die is none of our business; it's God's business. It would be more normal for a long-time Christian to just be trusting that God will decide and be confident that it will be when is best.

I've heard of people that God gave some rough approximation of when they would die. I remember one case where a man needed to get his affairs in order to make them manageable for his wife afterward (who is the one that told me the story). Or when someone was very sick and was past being afraid of dying, and God gave him an indication as a way to give them a deeper peace (and hearing from God is encouraging).

How long have you been hearing from God and then seeing the evidence that it was God you heard? If it is less than a couple decades, I'd question it. If one was in the habit of trying to understand God's will for daily things, I'd definitely question it. Also, if you had no need to know, then it would be unlike God to tell you, although it is possible he would do it if it would help prepare you for something you needed to deal with in the shorter term. If it was foreboding or had a dark feel to it, it almost certainly wouldn't from God. God is the God of strengthening, encouragement, and comfort when it comes to communicating to people.

But God can do anything he wants, and all the kinds of things that God can do to help someone is far beyond my knowledge. God has probably done something like that before and probably will do so again. However, 11 years in advance, I do not believe. It has too many ramifications. It would mean, for example, that God is telling us all that the rapture isn't going to happen in the next 11 years, and I doubt he would tell us that.
 
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However, 11 years in advance, I do not believe. It has too many ramifications. It would mean, for example, that God is telling us all that the rapture isn't going to happen in the next 11 years, and I doubt he would tell us that.

No one will know the hour. But it's a 7 year event, and while the world seems to be falling apart, there is still no global government yet, though things are headed in that direction, there will have to be several reactions against it that may have varying levels of success first. And I'd heard the dates of 2030 and 2330 align with the Jewish calendar, but who knows?

Unless you think Tribulations is going to start within 4 years, and that that person would be raptured up and not have to endure the end times (which there are theological disagreements on this subject), then there are at least 11 years left. I think a few things still have yet to pass. The Abomination still sits upon the Temple Mount. If it's blown up and a new temple is starting to be built, then the clock is truly ticking. But I think many Christians don't understand that the false prophet will likely come as a Christian leader of the Church (they keep thinking it'll be a caliphate, naw, it'll likely be a Pope), as the only way to deceive Christians would have to come from within the church.

And whether there is a pre-trib rapture or not, it may not happen the way people think if there is a pre-tribulation rapture (vanishing and leaving clothes on the ground might not happen) it could be people simply inexplicably dying (virus, heart attacks, etc.) and the faithful disappearing un-noticed as they die of "natural causes"/viruses/etc., rather than some earth-shattering event where millions disappear from their clothes all at once (which you'd think would wake up the world and be a little too obvious to them, if they disbelieve even with that type of event happening, then they are truly blind).

And I don't see any biblical evidence that you take your body with you. And in my near-death experience, where I felt God ripping my soul out of my body and had to beg for a second chance (maybe that was me being raptured? hm?), I think all others would see is a dead body and not realize what had happened. Does the Bible even say the rapture happens all at once and not spread out over many years? Who knows...

So to answer the other poster who is hoping to never die and be pre-tribulation raptured, that rapture itself may require the death of your Earthly body. And fear not, it is just your flesh. Your soul never dies if you have faith in Christ, but your flesh WILL die, and likely even in a pre-trib rapture. Your flesh will die. Many people get confused because of Elijah and the verse where he is taken up "into Heaven" in a whirlwind and chariots of fire. But that does not necessarily mean that his fleshly body was taken into Heaven. In 2 Kings, Elisha permits men to search for Elijah as they were worried he would be "dropped" on a mountain or in a valley so the "heaven" Elijah was taken into was the sky, he was transported somewhere else (and then taken to Heaven), and even if his body was taken into Heaven, it's likely it would be obliterated in a second, because we have no indication the physical earthly can even exist in Heaven, the spiritual realm, this world is like an MMORPG, we're all saved on memory cards, but that data is not real, your flesh is not real, and only God can bring your soul into the "real world" of Heaven.

Just make sure you play a character in this MMORPG we call "life" that the maker of this world would want to save and not delete! (I often use that analogy to atheists who think they have some sort of "right" to be in Heaven, their hubris is both amusing and sad). In the end, none of us can be saved by our own efforts, though, but only by the freely given grace of God. Fear not! Believe and be saved! Do not fear pain, and you will not fear death if you truly believe!

And many deaths are not as painful as childbirth!

I think I would just repeat what the Bible says:

"So do not fear, for I am with you; do not be dismayed, for I am your God." - Isaiah 41:10
 
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In answer to the title of the thread and not what the OP actually contains, Yes we can know when we will die. When we die naturally the body rhythm changes approximately 3 days before death. I knew 3 days before y father died which was 4 days after his 70th birthday he would die. When my Nana died the nursing home she was in contacted us and said come and say your goodbyes 3 days before she died.
 
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Maury Safer died one week after he retired from CBS at the age of 84. I recall Jesus taught a parable about a man who was wealthy and built bigger barns to store his wealth, then one day he was informed he was going to die before the end of the day and God asked him who would get his wealth? The musician Prince died at the age of 57 without a will. There is little chance to distribute money to charity if you do not have it in your will. It is better to research charities to make sure charitable work is being done efficiently.

I have to plan to live my life expectancy, according to statistical information available to me. If I am skillful in my investing, my investments will generate income to support me all my life and will be passed to others when I die. If I remember the poor and give while I am alive, I might know the blessings of helping others. God can inform some people of their life expectancy. Not all can receive such information as their sins blocked out God's prayer.
 
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Do those of God's ecclesia/ekklesia, believe God will tell us when we will die, if we ask him?

“O Lord, make me know my end and what is the measure of my days; let me know how fleeting I am!” | Psalm39:4

I believe I know when I am going to die: the first week in May, 2028, at end of my 73rd year.

I don't believe God would tell us. I would rather not know even if we could ask him. The trouble with knowing is that i will spend my days trying to change the future. Just say if God said i was going to die in a car crash on a particular day then i can avoid getting in that car on that particular day, thus changing my destiny.

Personally i believe the day when i die is not yet set by god or anybody else, it is set by the decisions and choices i make through out my life and decisions and choices made by others.
 
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Do those of God's ecclesia/ekklesia, believe God will tell us when we will die, if we ask him?

“O Lord, make me know my end and what is the measure of my days; let me know how fleeting I am!” | Psalm39:4

I believe I know when I am going to die: the first week in May, 2028, at end of my 73rd year.
Do those of God's ecclesia/ekklesia, believe God will tell us when we will die, if we ask him?

“O Lord, make me know my end and what is the measure of my days; let me know how fleeting I am!” | Psalm39:4

I believe I know when I am going to die: the first week in May, 2028, at end of my 73rd year.
 
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I propose that God exists outside of time, and if this is true, then our physical death and
ascent to heaven will happen at the same moment.
But I have questions for those holier that me.
Does it say somewhere in the bible that our allotted time in this body is 120 years?
And is hell a place or concept created by man to keep the pious in power?
 
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Thank you for the reply. My memory is like swiss cheese.
Can you tell me where in the Bible.
Thank you. Sibyl

Not sure where exactly. God tells Abraham i think that his ancestors won't live more than 120 years. God is was that humans were living long ages. Abraham lived to around 930.
 
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