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Was There Life BEFORE Adam ?

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Why would an omnipotent God need to rest? Why do we so often envision God in human terms?
It's the idea that it was complete, not that God was tired. Creation in this sense is written in stone literally, since the Sabbath was required as a memorial of God's work in creation.
 
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It's the idea that it was complete, not that God was tired. Creation in this sense is written in stone literally, since the Sabbath was required as a memorial of God's work in creation.

Exodus 20:9 Six days you shall labour and do all your work, 10 but the seventh day is a Sabbath to the LORD your God. On it you shall not do any work, neither you, nor your son or daughter, nor your manservant or maidservant, nor your animals, nor the alien within your gates. 11 For in six days the LORD made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, but he rested on the seventh day. Therefore the LORD blessed the Sabbath day and made it holy.

Deuteronomy 5:12 Observe the Sabbath day by keeping it holy, as the LORD your God has commanded you. 13 Six days you shall labour and do all your work, 14 but the seventh day is a Sabbath to the LORD your God. On it you shall not do any work, neither you, nor your son or daughter, nor your manservant or maidservant, nor your ox, your donkey or any of your animals, nor the alien within your gates, so that your manservant and maidservant may rest, as you do. 15 Remember that you were slaves in Egypt and that the LORD your God brought you out of there with a mighty hand and an outstretched arm. Therefore the LORD your God has commanded you to observe the Sabbath day.

So, which one is correct?
 
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Sure there was life before Adam. Adam was created on the 6th day of the 6th creation event, after the previous five destruction's that occurred, the last being the extinction of the dinosaurs.

BBC Nature - Big Five mass extinction events

That's why the Bible uses the word "hayah", because the earth wasn't created desolate and waste, but fell into that state when the meteor crashed into the Yucatan Peninsula and wiped out the 5th creation. The word always denotes a change from one state to the next, never a pre-existing condition. Coupled with the fact that Tohu wa Bohu is only used in two other passages together, and in both of those other verses it points to a once flourishing condition made desolate and waste.

So there have been six creations and five destruction's. Soon there will a a sixth destruction followed by a seventh and final creation. The sixth creation was "good," even "very good," but the seventh creation will be "perfect".
 
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Why would an omnipotent God need to rest? Why do we so often envision God in human terms?
Because that's how humans think, in human terms. In reality there is no describing God, because He is far beyond our comprehension.
 
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I don't see the difference, they are just worded differently.
 
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I don't see the difference, they are just worded differently.

No not just differences in wording, they are two very different reasons both of which are stated in unequivocal terms. These two passages were written some 300 years apart and Deuteronomy was written before Genesis 1.
 
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No not just differences in wording, they are two very different reasons both of which are stated in unequivocal terms. These two passages were written some 300 years apart and Deuteronomy was written before Genesis 1.
First of all the Pentateuch was complete before the invasion of Canaan. I don't know where you get your timeline but that much I'm sure of. Deuteronomy was three speeches, I guess you could say sermons, before the invasion. The difference in time is only 40 years at most, a single generation and I still see no direct contradiction between the two statements.
 
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The Torah was assembled during or perhaps just after the Exile as what we today would call a cut and paste job. The Pentateuch came a bit later.
 
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The Torah was assembled during or perhaps just after the Exile as what we today would call a cut and paste job. The Pentateuch came a bit later.
I don't believe that.
 
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FYI, I do not need your advise on how to post my views. You best keep a close watch on your own glass premises.
Perhaps then you need a lesson in common courtesy. It is always appropriate to identify the source of any material you post that is not your own and to do so in a clear, unambiguous fashion. Failure to do so is discourteous and, in many cases -though not apparently this one - an infringement of copyright.
 
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Why would an omnipotent God need to rest? Why do we so often envision God in human terms?

It means rest as in arrest. God arrested (ceased) from his work.
 
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Is Genesis History? - a compelling 2016 Documentary, free right now on Netflix.

Let's see what a review says:

Digging Deep into the Movie, “Is Genesis History” (Part 1): Rock Layers, Paradigms, and How This YECist Movie Tries to Bury the Truth


Par for the creationist course then, I see.

EDIT: A bit more detail. The movie quotes Paul Nelson of the Discovery Institute to claim that there are only 'two paradigms' of history.Which the movie presents as 'godless evolution' or 'young earth creationism'. Paul Nelson himself says that he does not believe this, that he asked the movie's producers to correct this error before the DVD was released, and they refused to do so. See Paul Nelson's comments here: https://evolutionnews.org/2017/02/new_film_is_gen/

So, the entire movie is built on a lie. How surprising.
 
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Nicely written thanks - and raised many issues concerning the tendency of Christianity to stick its head in the sand in the face of uncomfortable scientific evidence.
 
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You might find the following of interest to you:

The Bible, Genesis and Geology


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Both, along with everything else it says
about the Sabbath.
 
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