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Was there an Ecclesia before Moses?

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Here is the earliest mention of an Ecclesia it the NT:

(CLV) Ac 7:38
This is he who came to be in the ecclesia in the wilderness with the messenger, who speaks to him in mount Sinai, and with our fathers, who receives the living oracles to give to you,

Notice the reference is the The Ecclesia.

Ecclesia is the Greek word for assembly.

Alternative forms
Etymology
From ἔκκλητος (ékklētos, “summoned”) +‎ -ῐ́ᾱ (-íā, abstract noun suffix), from ἐκκαλέω (ekkaléō, “to call forth, summon”), from ἐκ (ek) + καλέω (kaléō). The τ (t) changes to σ (s) by palatalization and assibilation, triggered by the following ι (i).

Pronunciation

  • IPA(key): /ek.klɛː.sí.aː/ → /ek.kliˈsi.a/ → /e.kliˈsi.a/
Noun
ἐκκλησῐ́ᾱ (ekklēsíā) f (genitive ἐκκλησῐ́ᾱς); first declension

  1. assembly
  2. congregation, church

ἐκκλησία - Wiktionary

The first mention I can find for the assembly regaring Moses, is in Exodus 12:6.

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H6951

The KJV translates Strong's H6951 in the following manner: congregation (86x), assembly (17x), company (17x), multitude (3x).
Outline of Biblical Usage [?]
  1. assembly, company, congregation, convocation
    1. assembly
      1. for evil counsel, war or invasion, religious purposes
    2. company (of returning exiles)

    3. congregation
      1. as organised body
      H6951 - qahal - Strong's Hebrew Lexicon (KJV)

But there is an earlier use of this word; as the sons of Israel gather at his death bed in Genesis 49:6

בקהלם

H6951

Which leads me to question, when was the first assembly before YHWH?
 
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Here is the earliest mention of an Ecclesia it the NT:

(CLV) Ac 7:38
This is he who came to be in the ecclesia in the wilderness with the messenger, who speaks to him in mount Sinai, and with our fathers, who receives the living oracles to give to you,

Notice the reference is the The Ecclesia.

Ecclesia is the Greek word for assembly.

Alternative forms
Etymology
From ἔκκλητος (ékklētos, “summoned”) +‎ -ῐ́ᾱ (-íā, abstract noun suffix), from ἐκκαλέω (ekkaléō, “to call forth, summon”), from ἐκ (ek) + καλέω (kaléō). The τ (t) changes to σ (s) by palatalization and assibilation, triggered by the following ι (i).

Pronunciation

  • IPA(key): /ek.klɛː.sí.aː/ → /ek.kliˈsi.a/ → /e.kliˈsi.a/
Noun
ἐκκλησῐ́ᾱ (ekklēsíā) f (genitive ἐκκλησῐ́ᾱς); first declension

  1. assembly
  2. congregation, church

ἐκκλησία - Wiktionary

The first mention I can find for the assembly regaring Moses, is in Exodus 12:6.

קהל

H6951

The KJV translates Strong's H6951 in the following manner: congregation (86x), assembly (17x), company (17x), multitude (3x).
Outline of Biblical Usage [?]
  1. assembly, company, congregation, convocation
    1. assembly
      1. for evil counsel, war or invasion, religious purposes
    2. company (of returning exiles)

    3. congregation
      1. as organised body
      H6951 - qahal - Strong's Hebrew Lexicon (KJV)

But there is an earlier use of this word; as the sons of Israel gather at his death bed in Genesis 49:6

בקהלם

H6951

Which leads me to question, when was the first assembly before YHWH?

Depends ... if you are talking about Israel (birth of the nation) then it would be certainly be when He changed Jacobs name to Israel and the nation was birthed.

If your talking about any "assembly of people" before God .... then that would be Adam & Eve onward .... and through their oral teachings and of those who followed those teachings and gathered until the birth of Israel as a nation happened.
 
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Here are some verses concerning the Assembly of Yah's People at Sinai:

(CLV) Ac 7:35
"This Moses, whom they disown, saying, `Who constitutes you a chief and a justice over us?' this one has God commissioned to be a chief as well as a redeemer, a justice, with the hand of the messenger who was seen by him in the thorn bush.

(CLV) Ac 7:36
This man led them out, doing miracles and signs in the land of Egypt and in the Red Sea, and in the wilderness forty years.

(CLV) Ac 7:37
This is the Moses who says to the sons of Israel: A Prophet will God be raising up to you from among your brethren, as me.

(CLV) Ac 7:38
This is he who came to be in the ecclesia in the wilderness with the messenger, who speaks to him in mount Sinai, and with our fathers, who receives the living oracles to give to you,

(CLV) Ac 7:39
to whom our fathers are not willing to become obedient, but they thrust him away, and turned to Egypt in their hearts,
 
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Here is the earliest mention of an Ecclesia it the NT:

(CLV) Ac 7:38
This is he who came to be in the ecclesia in the wilderness with the messenger, who speaks to him in mount Sinai, and with our fathers, who receives the living oracles to give to you,

Notice the reference is the The Ecclesia.

Ecclesia is the Greek word for assembly.

Alternative forms
Etymology
From ἔκκλητος (ékklētos, “summoned”) +‎ -ῐ́ᾱ (-íā, abstract noun suffix), from ἐκκαλέω (ekkaléō, “to call forth, summon”), from ἐκ (ek) + καλέω (kaléō). The τ (t) changes to σ (s) by palatalization and assibilation, triggered by the following ι (i).

Pronunciation

  • IPA(key): /ek.klɛː.sí.aː/ → /ek.kliˈsi.a/ → /e.kliˈsi.a/
Noun
ἐκκλησῐ́ᾱ (ekklēsíā) f (genitive ἐκκλησῐ́ᾱς); first declension

  1. assembly
  2. congregation, church

ἐκκλησία - Wiktionary

The first mention I can find for the assembly regaring Moses, is in Exodus 12:6.

קהל

H6951

The KJV translates Strong's H6951 in the following manner: congregation (86x), assembly (17x), company (17x), multitude (3x).
Outline of Biblical Usage [?]
  1. assembly, company, congregation, convocation
    1. assembly
      1. for evil counsel, war or invasion, religious purposes
    2. company (of returning exiles)

    3. congregation
      1. as organised body
      H6951 - qahal - Strong's Hebrew Lexicon (KJV)

But there is an earlier use of this word; as the sons of Israel gather at his death bed in Genesis 49:6

בקהלם

H6951
Which leads me to question, when was the first assembly before YHWH?
The meaning of ekklesia is "called-out assembly," not just any assembly, but the called-out assembly of faith in the Promise (Jesus Christ).

That would be the Church, those in Christ Jesus, going back to at least Abraham.
But when you consider that OT saints like Abel (Heb 11:14) and Noah (Heb 11:17), as well as the angels (Heb 12:22), are the Church of the firstborn (those in and heirs together with Christ, the firstborn), does it go all the way back to the angels?
 
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The meaning of ekklesia is "called-out assembly," not just any assembly, but the called-out assembly of faith in the Promise (Jesus Christ).

That would be the Church, those in Christ Jesus, going back to at least to Abraham.
But when you consider that OT saints like Abel (Heb 11:14) and Noah (Heb 11:7), as well as the angels (Heb 12:22), are the Church of the firstborn (those in and heirs together with Christ, the firstborn), does it go all the way back to the angels?

ekklesia includes all who will be in the first resurrection. It includes all the people of God whom He gathered from among the nations to do the redeeming work of Christ and to participate in the Kingdom of God that He inaugurates. Members of the ekklesia are the recipients and channels of God's glory and the heirs of the promises.

Hebrews 1:14
New Living Translation
Therefore, angels are only servants—spirits sent to care for people who will inherit salvation.
 
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ekklesia includes all who will be in the first resurrection. It includes all the people of God whom He gathered from among the nations to do the redeeming work of Christ and to participate in the Kingdom of God that He inaugurates. Members of the ekklesia are the recipients and channels of God's glory and the heirs of the promises.
Hebrews 1:14
New Living Translation
Therefore, angels are only servants—spirits sent to care for people who will inherit salvation.
Agreed. . .and who were created before man and are in the Church of the firstborn (Heb 12:22).
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