Was The Prophet Muhammad A Hebrew ..

[Khaliyl]

Was The Prophet Muhammad A Hebrew ..

 

[Gott]

Was The Prophet Muhammad A Hebrew ..

Well of course He is, but you would never get someone to admit the truth of their own bible.

Is He semetic?
If so then why aren't people charged with Anti-Semitism when talking down to a muslim?

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

Well of course He is, but you would never get someone to admit the truth of their own bible.

Is He semetic?
If so then why aren't people charged with Anti-Semitism when talking down to a muslim?

Perhaps because anti-jewish is used to talk down the Jewish religion while Islamaphobia is used against Islam. It is all essentially Anti-Semetic being they are both of Semetic origin [Note Isaac/Ishmael in the OC Jewish Scriptures]

http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/jew.htm

Jesus is referred as a so-called "Jew" for the first time in the New Testament in the 18th century. Jesus is first referred to as a so-called "Jew" in the revised 18th century editions in the English language of the 14th century first translations of the New Testament into English.

 

[Khaliyl]

Well of course He is, but you would never get someone to admit the truth of their own bible.

Is He semetic?
If so then why aren't people charged with Anti-Semitism when talking down to a muslim?

Hummmmmmmmmmmm I must say you have a good point

 

[Khaliyl]

Perhaps because anti-jewish is used to talk down the Jewish religion while Islamaphobia is used against Islam. It is all essentially Anti-Semetic being they are both of Semetic origin [Note Isaac/Ishmael]

http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/jew.htm

Jesus is referred as a so-called "Jew" for the first time in the New Testament in the 18th century. Jesus is first referred to as a so-called "Jew" in the revised 18th century editions in the English language of the 14th century first translations of the New Testament into English.

Hummmmmmmmmm

 

[anatolian]

as a son of Ishmael he is a son of Abraham if this makes Him hebrew yes but they called themselves arabs. now what does hebrew, jew, arab mean? was Abraham a hebrew?

 

[Abdurrahim]

Prophet Muhammad is a decendant of Prophet Abraham pbuh.

Prophet Abraham was not a jew or one of the children of Israel.

Children of Israel (Jacob) pbuh are also decendants of prophet Abraham like arabs.

Prophet Jacob is the grandson of Abraham.

So neither pr Abraham nor pr Muhammad peace be upon them are jewish or one of the children of Israel.

peace

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

Prophet Muhammad is a decendant of Prophet Abraham pbuh.

Prophet Abraham was not a jew or one of the children of Israel.

Children of Israel (Jacob) pbuh are also decendants of prophet Abraham like arabs.

Prophet Jacob is the grandson of Abraham.

So neither pr Abraham nor pr Muhammad peace be upon them are jewish or one of the children of Israel.

peace

Have the Muslims ever read what Jacob spoke to them in Genesis 49?

Genesis 49:1 And Jacob calleth unto his sons and saith, `Be gathered together, and I declare to you that which doth happen with you in the latter end of the days..........

Daniel 12:4 And thou, O Daniel, hide the things, and seal the book till the time of the end, many do go to and fro, and knowledge is multiplied.'

 

[Oxy2Hydr0]

Was The Prophet Muhammad A Hebrew ..


Was The Prophet Muhammad A Hebrew ..

Hebrew properly "IBRU" meaning one who is from accross the Euphrates. It denoted original what we would reguard as an "immigrant" who is not from our own country.

Abraham (a.s.) was indeed an Ibru who was from Ur of the Chaldees known today as the northern part of Arabia.

Muhammad (s.a.w.) was a descendant of Abraham, so yes our Prophet would be a Hebrew by descent but also an Arab as Ishmael who was also half Hebrew and Egyptian married a Bedouin of Arabia ie an Arab.

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

Originally Posted by Abdurrahim
Prophet Muhammad is a decendant of Prophet Abraham pbuh.

Prophet Abraham was not a jew or one of the children of Israel.

Children of Israel (Jacob) pbuh are also decendants of prophet Abraham like arabs.

Prophet Jacob is the grandson of Abraham.

So neither pr Abraham nor pr Muhammad peace be upon them are jewish or one of the children of Israel.

peace

Hebrew properly "IBRU" meaning one who is from accross the Euphrates. It denoted original what we would reguard as an "immigrant" who is not from our own country.

Abraham (a.s.) was indeed an Ibru who was from Ur of the Chaldees known today as the northern part of Arabia.

Muhammad (s.a.w.) was a descendant of Abraham, so yes our Prophet would be a Hebrew by descent but also an Arab as Ishmael who was also half Hebrew and Egyptian married a Bedouin of Arabia ie an Arab.

Have the Muslims ever read what Jacob spoke to Israel in Genesis 49 or are the Muslims not interested in the history of the Hebrew Israelites in the OC of the Hebrew Scriptures? Peace

Genesis 49:1 And Jacob calleth unto his sons and saith, `Be gathered together, and I declare to you that which doth happen with you in the latter end of the days..........

Daniel 12:4 And thou, O Daniel, hide the things, and seal the book till the time of the end, many do go to and fro, and knowledge is multiplied.'

 

[Khaliyl]

When you hear the term Hebrew , what immediately comes to your mind? You may think of Jews , Semitics , Black Hebrew Israelites , Israel , Palestine , Hebrew ( as a language ) , ect . These titles , name , religions , and people are in essence correct , But what about the terms Muslims , Muhammad , Islam , Mecca , and would you immediately relate these rems to the word Hebrew as well ? Of course not . However , you should . These titles , names etc , are also related terms , be it by direct association or adaptation , for they all originated from the same one source , Abraham . The word Hebrew is a title that was attributed to our great teacher Abraham when he traveled from the Ur of Chaldea and crossed a strip of land called Mesopotamia , nestled between the Tigris - Euphrates Rivers .

He was on route to the land of Canaan - the land of the cursed Canaanites ; which was promised to him and his descendants who were destined to come after him for an everlasting possession ( Genesis 17 ; 8 ) . Upon crossing over , Abraham met a group of Phoenician- Canaanites ( the Canaanite tribe of Sidon who mix in with the Assyrians ) merchants who worshiped the deity 'Al <aramic > that had witnessed this crossing and referred to him and his family in Ancient Hebrew as '' Ibriy ''
[ in modern Hebrew '' Ivrit '' or '' Hebrew which means '' to cross over ''

Genesis 14 ; 13 , ( Right Translation In Aramic ( Hebrew ) , And I Quote ; And There Bo ( Came ) One That Had Faw - Leet ( Escaped ) And Naw - Gad ( Told ) Ab - Rawm ( Abram ) The Ib - Ree
( Hebrew ) ; For He Shaw- Kan ( Dwelt ) In The Ay - Lone ( Plain ) Of Mam - Ray ( Mamre ) The
Em - O - Ree ( Amorite ) ; And Awkh ( Brother ) Of Aw - Nare ( Aner ) ; And Haym ( These ) Were Bah - Al ( Confederate ) With Ab - Rawm ( Abram ) .
And There Came One That Had Escaped And Reported All This To Abram , The One Who Crossed Over ( Hebrew ) ; Who Was Living Near A Sacred Tree In The Plain Of Mamre The Mountain Dweller ( Amorite ) , Mamre And His Bothers Eshcol And His Brother Aner ; And These Were The Confederate Of Abram .

( Mistranslation For King James 1611 A.D. )
And There Came One That Had Escapen , And Told Abram The Hebrew ; For He Dwelt In The Plain Of Mamre The Amorite , Brother Of Eshcol , And Brother Of Aner ; And These Were Confederate With Abram .

In Ashuric / Syriac ( Arabic ) , the word Aabiyr , for Eber means , '' The one who passes over '' , get its same meaning as the title '' Hebrew '' from the Ashuric / Syriac ( Arabic ) roots Ebra which means '' to cross , to pass or traverse '' , The Aramic ( Hebrew ) word for '' Hebrew '' is ( Ibriy ) . Here you can see how they originated from the same root '' abara ,

Abraham was the progenitor of nations . He was also responsible for the setting forth of what is considered the basis of many religions that are practiced today ; Judaism [ Moses and Talmud worshippers ] , Christianity [ the book of Paul and Christ worshippers ] and El Islam [ the books of Hadith and Muhammad worshippers ] which are the foundations of the various splinter denominations , religions , religious beliefs , faiths , sanctities , rites , or whatever you want to call them . Nevertheless , in spite of the diversity of these religions and the deviations that may have watered them down , the forefathers whom they base their religion around were also Hebrews Judaism by way of Judah , son of Jacob and Bilhah ; Christianity ( Paulism ) by way of Jesus of 2000 years ago and El Islam by way of Muhammad from the seed of Ishmael .

Because almost every religion today came from the loins of Abraham , and if you were to look closely into each of them you would find all have some type of Hebrew teaching . This means you can find Hebracic teaching in Christianity as well as El Islam . are Hebrews - those who follow the Rites of Abraham . He was the first to be called '' Hebrew '' and it was he who named you Muslims from before Muhammad ( Koran 22 ; 78 ) . Muslims are told by Eli ( God ) to follow the ways of Abraham , so wouldn't that mean that everyone must follow the ways of Abraham including Muhammad Son Of Abdullat And Amina ..

 

[Khaliyl]

And that's exactly what Muhammad Son Of Abdullat And Amina did , He followed the way Abraham did things , his laws and his way of life . There is no way to deny it . As matter of fact Muhammad Son Of Abdullat And Amina .. put this all throughout the Koran , a Scripture that Muslims acknoeledge . Right here in the Koran 5 ; 47 , Muhammad Son Of Abdullat And Amina ..tells you that Eli ( God ) says to read the Old Testament ( the Hebrew Scripture ) as a guidance and light .

The Koran 5 ; 47 [ in part ) Right Translation In Ashuric / Syriac ( Arabic ) And I Quote ; Inaa ( Surely We ) Anzalnaa ( We Elohim Sent Down ) El Tawraah ( Torah , The Law Five Books Of Moses ) In It Hudaan ( Right Guidance ) And Nuwrun ( Light ) .
Surely We Elohim Sent Down The Law '' Torah '' In It Is Guidance And Light ..

( Mistranslation By Abdullah Yusuf Ali 1938 A.D. ) And I Quote ; It Was We Who Revealed The Law
( To Moses ) Therein Was Guidance And Light , ''

What does this quote mean to you Muslims , Are you Muslims saying El ( God ) made a mistake , that He didn't really mean to say Torah , He meant to say the Hadiyth of Bukari or Muslim ? Just face it , it's right here in Arabic and English . In Koran 45 ; 18 , Muhammad Son Of Abdullat And Amina was commanded to follow the laws of Moses - who everyone knows was a Hebrew .

The Koran 45 ; 18 , ( Right Translation In Ashuric / Syriac ( Arabic ) And I Quote ; Thuma ( Then ) Ja'alnaaka ( We Have Made You ) Shariy'Atin ( A Course Of Law ) Min ( From ) El Amr ( What Is Commanded ) Faatbi'Haa ( So Follow It ) And Do Not Tatabi ( You Follow ) The Ahwaa'a ( Vain Desires ) [ Those Thing That You Love )] Of Those Who Do Not Ya'Lamuwna ( Know Anything ) .
Then We Elohim Have Made You Over A Course Of Law From What Is Commanded . So Follow It And Don't You Follow The Vain Desires Of Those Who Don't Know Anything .

( Mistranslation By Abdullah Yusuf Ali 1938 A.D. )
Then We Put Thee On The ( Right ) Way Of Religion ; So Follow Thou That ( Way ) , And Follow Not The Desires Of Those Who Know Not .

Therefore , if Muhammad Son Of Abdullat And Amina was told to follow the Laws of Moses then that means to follow the Old Testament because according to you and everyone else , Moses received the Old Testament . Did Eli ( God ) make another mistake and mention the wrong prophet ? In quotes
2 ; 136 , 80 ; 15 , and 87 ; 19 , Muhammad Son Of Abdullat And Amina was told to read what was given to Abraham the father of many nations , the first to be called Hebrew .

The Koran 2 ; 136 , ( Right Translation In Ashuric / Syriac ( Arabic ) And I Quote ; '' Say ; Aamanaa
( We Have Faith ) Bi El Eloh ( By Way Of El Eloh [ The Source ] ) And What Unzila ( Was Sent Down To Abraham And Ishmael ( 10 Pages Of Suhuf ) And Isaac And Jacob And El Asbaat ( The Tribes ) ( The Suhuf ) And What Uwtiyya ( Was Given ) To Mose , And What Uwtiya ( Was Given ) To El Nabiyuwn ( The Newsbearers ) [ Prophets ] ) , From Rabbihm ( Their Master ) . We Don't Nufariqu ( Many Any Distinction ) Between Any One Minhum ( Of Them ) And We Are His Muslimuwn ( Peaceful Ones ) .,

 

[Khaliyl]

( Mistranslation By Abdullah Yusuf Ali 1938 A.D. )
''Say Ye ; We Believe In God , And The Revelation Given To Us , And To Abraham , Isma'il , Isaac , Jacob , And The Tribes , And That Given To Moses And Jesus , And That Given To ( All ) Prophets From Their Lord ; We Make No Difference Between One And Another Of Them ; And We Bow To God ( In Islam ) .

See , it tells you right here what Muhammad Son Of Abdullat And Amina was told to do , but people would rather discuss what they think is right by their opinions as opposed to what they can see in the Koran with their own eyes . This is how many traditions and practices came about , Although these practices have nothing to do with what was sent down . people practice them as though they were '' heaven sent '' In the Koran 16 ; 123 , the religion of Abraham was already established when Muhammad Son Of Abdullat And Amina came . According to this quote Muhammad Son Of Abdullat And Amina himself is being told not to start a New Religion , but to follow Abraham - the Hebrew . Again referring back to Hebratic Laws And Customs .

The Koran 16 ; 123 , ( Right Translation In Ashuric / Syriac ( Arabic ) And I Quote ; Then We ( Allah And The Angelic Beings ) Inspired You ( Muhammad ) , That You Are To Follow The Millath Ibrahiym ( Religion Of Abraham ) The Haniyfan ( Upright ) And He ( Abraham ) Was Not One Of The Idol Worshippers ( The Banylonians Of Nimrod's Time ) .
Then We The Elohim , Sent Towards You Our Inspiration Muhammad , That You Are To Follow The Religion Of Abraham The Upright One . And He Abraham , Was Not Of The Idol Worshippers -The Babylonians Of Nimrod's Time .

( Mistranslation By Abdullah Yusuf Ali 1938 A.D. )
''So We Have Taught Thee The Inspired ( Message ) , Follow The Ways Of Abraham The True In Faith , And He Joined Not Gods With God .

The word at -tabi'a means '' follow '' which come from the root word tabi'a meaning '' to follow '' He was to follow , which means '' to go or come after , to go the same direction '' Muhammad Son Of Abdullat And Amina was following , not making up his own religion . And you too are supposed to be following Abraham's religion through Muhammad Son Of Abdullat And Amina . Many so-called Muslims are guilty of attempting to reform El Islam . They think they initiated El Islam - The true Islam . They did no such thing . they only picked and chose thing which would suit their purpose - and as a result revised El Islam , making up a new religion .

 

[Khaliyl]

Its's simple , Its clear . Yet you don't want to see it because to accept the that Muhammad Son Of Abdullat And Amina didn't start his own religion would depreciate the entire market of El Islam with its artifacts , idols , thus losing millions of dollars and in turn making those who capitalized off this religious charade bankrupt . Muslims in America are so busy banging their heads on the floor calling it salats that they miss the big picture ; their Imams are controlled by the Saudi Arabian Establishment . The Islam you see today is fake Islam , a man - made religion concocted by the Arabs of Saudi Arabia to discredit the religion of Abraham which is the same religion as Moses and Jesus . And don't try to say that Muhammad Son Of Abdullat And Amina brought a new doctrine , What is the meaning of Koran 46 ; 9 ..

The Koran 46 ; 9 [ in part ] Right Translation In Ashuric / Syriac ( Arabic ) And I Quote ; Say ; I Was Not Bidaan ( A Person Who Makes Up Things [ The First ] ) About Rl Rusul , ( Of The Ones Sent )

( Mistranslation By Abdullah Yusuf Ali 1938 A.D. )
''Say ; I Am No Bringer Of New Fangled Doctrine Among The Apostles ..

Doesn't this means that what he was supposed to teach was already here ? Isn't this telling you that he did not make a new doctrine or religion ; and if he did , he was going against the book he claims was givento him in a divine manner ? The prophet who was before him ( Jesus of 2000 years ago ) was also told to follow the religion before him which was the religion of Moses and not to establish a new religion . This religion was also the way of life of Abraham and consisted of disassociating images and idols with Eli ( God ) ( Exodus 20 ; 3 ) ; prostrting in prayer ( Numbers 16 ; 22 ) ; practicing circumcision ( Genesis 17 ; 11 ) ; wearing beards ( Leviticus 19 ; 27 ) . and wearing white ( Daiel 7 ; 9 ) .

Now if Muhammad Son Of Abdullat And Amina was doing everything in accordance to the laws of the Koran , then what did Muhammad Son Of Abdullat And Amina do when he was told to follow Abraham ? Did He Say ' No '' , I refuse to follow the laws of the Jews because they tampered with the words of the Scriptures , so I;ll make up my own religion and call it Islaam ? No ! He just like the other prophets before him , followed the laws of those before him . And he continued to refer back to the Old Testament ( What you call the Hebrew Scripture ) and the laws of Moses ( the Hebrew Laws ) in the Koran , So what's your excuse for not doing exactly what Muhammad Son Of Abdullat And Amina , did and innovating the true religion of peace ?

More In Next Post ..

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

See , it tells you right here what Muhammad Son Of Abdullat And Amina was told to do , but people would rather discuss what they think is right by their opinions as opposed to what they can see in the Koran with their own eyes . This is how many traditions and practices came about , Although these practices have nothing to do with what was sent down . people practice them as though they were '' heaven sent '' In the Koran 16 ; 123 , the religion of Abraham was already established when Muhammad Son Of Abdullat And Amina came . According to this quote Muhammad Son Of Abdullat And Amina himself is being told not to start a New Religion , but to follow Abraham - the Hebrew . Again referring back to Hebratic Laws And Customs .

Hi. Thanks for the info.
I had read somewhere that Muhammad had abrogated some of the Laws the Children of Israel were given by Moses.

Matthew 1:1 The book of the genealogy of Jesus Christ, the Son of David, the Son of Abraham: 2 Abraham begot Isaac, Isaac begot Jacob, and Jacob/Israel begot Judah and his brothers.

 

[Khaliyl]

Hi. Thanks for the info.
I had read somewhere that Muhammad had abrogated some of the Laws the Children of Israel were given by Moses.

Matthew 1:1 The book of the genealogy of Jesus Christ, the Son of David, the Son of Abraham: 2 Abraham begot Isaac, Isaac begot Jacob, and Jacob/Israel begot Judah and his brothers.

Its my pleasure

 

[Oxy2Hydr0]

To Khaliyl

Who is Muhammad Son Of Abdullat ? No one called Muhammad Son Of Abdullat was revealed the Quran. Your source is obviously very stuborn and ignorant.

It was Muhammad Son Of Abdullah Hashim is whom was revealed the Quran.

Never heard of a Muhammad Son Of Abdullat. Do you mind telling us where you got this from ?

 

[Khaliyl]

To Khaliyl

Who is Muhammad Son Of Abdullat ? No one called Muhammad Son Of Abdullat was revealed the Quran. Your source is obviously very stuborn and ignorant.

It was Muhammad Son Of Abdullah Hashim is whom was revealed the Quran.

Never heard of a Muhammad Son Of Abdullat. Do you mind telling us where you got this from ?

Are You Saying Muhammad Isn't The Son Son Of Abdullat And Amina ?????

 

[yaqovzadeek]

Well of course He is, but you would never get someone to admit the truth of their own bible.

Is He semetic?
If so then why aren't people charged with Anti-Semitism when talking down to a muslim?

Hi i think you got it the worng way round mate. He was a semite and Not a hebrew.Arabs and Hebrews are semite not only Hebrews are. So him being semitic does not make him a Hebrew.But being an Arab makes him a semite not a Hebrew. abraham was a hebrew (if he was) by nationality, not by religion.
Peace
Yaqovzadeek
aka james the just