Was Hilter a Christian or not?

cavymom · Mar 19, 2006

Fares said:
According to who ? Mohammed ?
how do you beleive this man ?
Look at this :

Book 38, Number 4348:

Narrated Abdullah Ibn Abbas:

A blind man had a slave-mother who used to abuse the Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) and disparage him. He forbade her but she did not stop. He rebuked her but she did not give up her habit. One night she began to slander the Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) and abuse him. So he took a dagger, placed it on her belly, pressed it, and killed her. A child who came between her legs was smeared with the blood that was there. When the morning came, the Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) was informed about it.
He assembled the people and said: I adjure by Allah the man who has done this action and I adjure him by my right to him that he should stand up. Jumping over the necks of the people and trembling the man stood up.
He sat before the Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) and said: Apostle of Allah! I am her master; she used to abuse you and disparage you. I forbade her, but she did not stop, and I rebuked her, but she did not abandon her habit. I have two sons like pearls from her, and she was my companion. Last night she began to abuse and disparage you. So I took a dagger, put it on her belly and pressed it till I killed her.
Thereupon the Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) said: Oh be witness, no retaliation is payable for her blood.

Book 38, Number 4349:
Narrated Ali ibn AbuTalib:
A Jewess used to abuse the Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) and disparage him. A man strangled her till she died. The Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) declared that no recompense was payable for her blood.

Book 38, Number 4356:
Narrated Abdullah ibn Umar:
Some people raided the camels of the Prophet (peace_be_upon_him), drove them off, and apostatised. They killed the herdsman of the Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) who was a believer. He (the Prophet) sent (people) in pursuit of them and they were caught. He had their hands and feet cut off, and their eyes put out. The verse regarding fighting against Allah and His Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) was then revealed. These were the people about whom Anas ibn Malik informed al-Hajjaj when he asked him.

Skillganon said:
I will be happy to do so, if you kindly, in respect for not going off the topic of this thread, Create you'r own thread and post it their, & delete the one you posted here! Is that clear!
SO I repeat I will be happy to Discuss "this matter" on the hadith, Islam, and discuss Christianity(bible) point of view "toward's this" FARES, IF you are willing to upon up another thread, and DELETE the post #173 in this thread.

We are speaking here of Hitler and was he a christian. There are many other people and books being discussed and brought up.

Why should you ask people to take off what they said when they are answering other peoples questions or giving thier opinions.

I think this is relevant...
if you say that hitler was a christian than no he was NOT. Hitler called himself a christian but was not listening to the message God gave concerning love, grace and mercy. Hitler is the WORST example that you can make about who is a christian. Many christians that truly love the Lord and follow His message about love would agree that hitler was not a true christian.

Now... what if hitler was muslim, if hitler was muslim surprisingly his activities would be overlooked to some extent. The islamic faith allows violence like hands/ feet/ heads to be cut off and it was even wrote about being true by an actual muslim on this website ( http://www.christianforums.com/t2734058 )

I dont think anyone out there likes hitler... except hateful people. People that love the Lord Jesus dont like Hitler, so it's not a big surprise if we reject hitler and whatever lies he spouted.

Psalm 34:14 Turn away from evil and do what is good;
seek peace and pursue it. 15 The eyes of the Lord are on the righteous,
and His ears are open to their cry for help. 16 The face of the Lord is set
against those who do what is evil,
to erase all memory of them from the earth.

Skillganon · Mar 19, 2006

cavymom said:
We are speaking here of Hitler and was he a christian. There are many other people and books being discussed and brought up.

Exactly We are talking about was Hitler a christian?

cavymom said:
Why should you ask people to take off what they said when they are answering other peoples questions or giving thier opinions.

I think this is relevant...

BEcause if you re-read what the post it has nothing to do with the thread!

cavymom said:
if you say that hitler was a christian than no he was NOT. Hitler called himself a christian but was not listening to the message God gave concerning love, grace and mercy. Hitler is the WORST example that you can make about who is a christian. Many christians that truly love the Lord and follow His message about love would agree that hitler was not a true christian.

Fine you said Hitler was not a true christian.!

cavymom said:
Now... what if hitler was muslim, if hitler was muslim surprisingly his activities would be overlooked to some extent. The islamic faith allows violence like hands/ feet/ heads to be cut off and it was even wrote about being true by an actual muslim on this website.

I dont think anyone out there likes hitler... except hateful people. People that love the Lord Jesus dont like Hitler, so it's not a big surprise if we reject hitler and whatever lies he spouted.

What if? We are not following conjectures.
And his post has nothing to do with Hitler, or christianity for the matter.

& I said I am willling to discuss the matter, looking at the Hadith, Quran, and ask few on it about the christianity view & BIBLE.

Fares · Mar 19, 2006

Muslims : This are not real muslims .
My response : Of course they aren't, they are just wearing the nikab because they find it amuzing .

cavymom · Mar 20, 2006

Fares said:
Muslims : This are not real muslims .
My response : Of course they aren't, they are just wearing the nikab because they find it amuzing .

Hmm, freaky. This was when the muslims were demonstrating those cartoons.

Nahienga · Mar 20, 2006

What the fish has muslimextremists got to do with Hitler?

Lignoba · Mar 20, 2006

HageeFan said:
If you compare the Mein Kampf to the Qur'an, you'll discover they're nearly identical.

umm... no they arent.

cavymom · Mar 20, 2006

Nahienga said:
What the fish has muslimextremists got to do with Hitler?

I have no idea but the muslims are carrying signs applauding Hitler and we happen to be discussing Hitler???

Nahienga · Mar 20, 2006

cavymom said:
I have no idea but the muslims are carrying signs applauding Hitler and we happen to be discussing Hitler???

Yeah, but they're still not that relevant.

Fares · Mar 20, 2006

yes it is relevant .
You do not see priests or nuns or true followers of Jesus waving this signs . Yet true muslims do .

yaqovzadeek · Mar 20, 2006

cavymom said:
if you say that hitler was a christian than no he was NOT. Hitler called himself a christian but was not listening to the message God gave concerning love, grace and mercy. Hitler is the WORST example that you can make about who is a christian. Many christians that truly love the Lord and follow His message about love would agree that hitler was not a true christian.

Hitler was a devout christian I gave loads of evidence to prove that.His mother was a devout christian to and he quoted a lot from the bible in Mein kampf, but obviously because he slaughtered millions our dear christian friends would never agree he was christian.Some of his hench men went top church regularly, more than many on here or more than many who claim to be christians.Yet they were slaughtering Jews.

cavymom said:
Now... what if hitler was muslim, if hitler was muslim surprisingly his activities would be overlooked to some extent. The islamic faith allows violence like hands/ feet/ heads to be cut off and it was even wrote about being true by an actual muslim on this website ( http://www.christianforums.com/t2734058 )

cavymom said:
Now what if My backside was a bowl, we could all drink tea from it.

Mt 5:30 And if thy right hand offend thee, cut it off, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell.
Mt 18:8 Wherefore if thy hand or thy foot offend thee, cut them off, and cast them from thee: it is better for thee to enter into life halt or maimed, rather than having two hands or two feet to be cast into everlasting fire.

Peace
yaqovzadeek
aka James the just

Nahienga · Mar 20, 2006

Fares said:
yes it is relevant .
You do not see priests or nuns or true followers of Jesus waving this signs . Yet true muslims do .

No I haven't seen any muslims waving signs for real. But I've seen lots of christians waving "Convert or DIE!" signs.
But those are extremists. And so are those muslims on that picture.

Tawny · Mar 20, 2006

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