War, God and Population Control

[Natsumi Lam]

Hi Family,

Do you believe God condones some biblical battles to control the population?

Do you think it is a means to an end?

If we have free will why does God intervene?

Is the a biblical basis for war?

~Natsumi Lam~

 

[Dave L]

Hi Family,

Do you believe God condones some biblical battles to control the population?

Do you think it is a means to an end?

If we have free will why does God intervene?

Is the a biblical basis for war?

~Natsumi Lam~

“He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.” (John 3:36)

I think God uses war to thin the heard and to administer wrath on sin.

 

[dqhall]

Hi Family,

Do you believe God condones some biblical battles to control the population?

Do you think it is a means to an end?

If we have free will why does God intervene?

Is the a biblical basis for war?

~Natsumi Lam~

Jesus taught a way of non-violence.

Matthew 5:21 (WEB) You have heard that it was said to the ancient ones, 'You shall not murder;' and 'Whoever shall murder shall be in danger of the judgment.' 22 But I tell you, that everyone who is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment; and whoever shall say to his brother, 'Raca!' shall be in danger of the council; and whoever shall say, 'You fool!' shall be in danger of the fire of Gehenna.

Matthew 5:38 (WEB) You have heard that it was said, 'An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth.' 39 But I tell you, don't resist him who is evil; but whoever strikes you on your right cheek, turn to him the other also. 40 If anyone sues you to take away your coat, let him have your cloak also. 41 Whoever compels you to go one mile, go with him two. 42 Give to him who asks you, and don't turn away him who desires to borrow from you.

There are Biblical laws against adultery and fornication. Jesus taught it is a sin to have lust in mind. All these commandments may control the population. There is also famine and disease to control the population. If one avoids death by famine or disease, old age will bring him/her down. In addition to these things there are modern means of birth control that are more humane than war.

There are many war wounded veterans who are disabled. It is a thing of grief and who will help them? There are those who were disabled in domestic violence and street crime, is their poverty their own fault? Who will take care of them? War is an evil thing.

 

[Natsumi Lam]

Jesus taught a way of non-violence.

Matthew 5:21 (WEB) You have heard that it was said to the ancient ones, 'You shall not murder;' and 'Whoever shall murder shall be in danger of the judgment.' 22 But I tell you, that everyone who is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment; and whoever shall say to his brother, 'Raca!' shall be in danger of the council; and whoever shall say, 'You fool!' shall be in danger of the fire of Gehenna.

Matthew 5:38 (WEB) You have heard that it was said, 'An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth.' 39 But I tell you, don't resist him who is evil; but whoever strikes you on your right cheek, turn to him the other also. 40 If anyone sues you to take away your coat, let him have your cloak also. 41 Whoever compels you to go one mile, go with him two. 42 Give to him who asks you, and don't turn away him who desires to borrow from you.

There are Biblical laws against adultery and fornication. Jesus taught it is a sin to have lust in mind. All these commandments may control the population. There is also famine and disease to control the population. If one avoids death by famine or disease, old age will bring him/her down. In addition to these things there are modern means of birth control that are more humane than war.

There are many war wounded veterans who are disabled. It is a thing of grief and who will help them? There are those who were disabled in domestic violence and street crime, is their poverty their own fault? Who will take care of them? War is an evil thing.

I was talking about the OT.

 

[joshua 1 9]

Do you believe God condones some biblical battles to control the population?

That is not what the Bible teaches. We know that God destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah and the world at the time of Noah. Not to "control" population but because: "The LORD saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every intention of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually" Genesis 6:5

 

[eleos1954]

Hi Family,

Do you believe God condones some biblical battles to control the population?

Do you think it is a means to an end?

If we have free will why does God intervene?

Is the a biblical basis for war?

~Natsumi Lam~

Do you believe God condones some biblical battles to control the population? No, God does not like violence ... and He said to be fruitful and multiply.

Do you think it is a means to an end? No, it is a result from the fall of mankind. We cause it ourselves and have to endure what we cause.

If we have free will why does God intervene? Our free will is to believe and follow Jesus ... or not. God intervenes and will continue to do so until the 2nd coming of Jesus and until the GWTJ. Only He knows the days and times. Jesus says ... like in the days of Noah ... there will come a time when God looks down and ...

Genesis 6:5

Then the LORD saw that the wickedness of man was great upon the earth, and that every inclination of the thoughts of his heart was altogether evil all the time.

Is the a biblical basis for war? Basis? - the justification for or reasoning behind something. = the reason ... Fall of mankind.

God Bless.

 

[Dave L]

Do you believe God condones some biblical battles to control the population? No, God does not like violence ... and He said to be fruitful and multiply.

Do you think it is a means to an end? No, it is a result from the fall of mankind. We cause it ourselves and have to endure what we cause.

If we have free will why does God intervene? Our free will is to believe and follow Jesus ... or not. God intervenes and will continue to do so until the 2nd coming of Jesus and until the GWTJ. Only He knows the days and times. Jesus says ... like in the days of Noah ... there will come a time when God looks down and ...

Genesis 6:5

Then the LORD saw that the wickedness of man was great upon the earth, and that every inclination of the thoughts of his heart was altogether evil all the time.

Is the a biblical basis for war? Basis? - the justification for or reasoning behind something. = the reason ... Fall of mankind.

God Bless.

What about the Canaanites?

 

[eleos1954]

What about the Canaanites?

Well ... if it hadn't been for the fall of mankind, we would be living in a perfect world. Was it Gods plan for mankind to fall? No It fell because of free will.

God creates all His beings with free will ... out of Love ... because one can not have true love without it. One can not force one to love another. Lucifer and His angels had free will in heaven ... they fell out of love.

What about the Canaanites? I reviewed the questions and did not see where it was asked specifically about that intervention by the Lord ... but the intervention was to protect the lineage from which our Savior would come from.

1 - to control the population? No
2 - battles - means to an end? No (battles plural)
3 - free will why does God intervene? reason - His timing to fully execute His plan ... free will choose Jesus/God or not

1 John 4

16 And so we know and rely on the love God has for us. God is love. Whoever lives in love lives in God, and God in them.

It's all about Love - Freewill Love.

God Bless.

 

[Bob Crowley]

Speaking in terms of Europe for example, the most destructive population events were not wars, but two natural disasters, both in medieval times - the Great Famine and the Black Death (Plague). I suppose insurance companies would call them "acts of God" to avoid paying out.

The world's population did not decline overall even during World War II. In any case, many nations were not directly involved (most of South America, much of Africa), and the most severe population losses were those of the Soviet Union, China, Germany, and Japan.

A widespread nuclear war would be a different story though.

I think God can allow a war to happen as a judgement, but we start them, we fight them, and we finish them. They're a consequence of living in a fallen world.

Finally what about the devil? Who was behind Hitler? Genghis Khan? Josef Stalin?

As far as I'm concerned, Hitler was the devil's attempt to take over the world using human agency. The chimney stacks of the concentration camps were a testament to that reality, and the sort of world he'd have created in his image.

He failed that time, but he'll try again.

So I suppose we're caught between a God who allows "acts of God" - black deaths, plagues, great famines, earthquakes, massive floods, and tidal waves, with black holes the ultimate reminder of His potential power to destroy; and a devil who actively pursues the destruction of human society - neither of them seem to be overly concerned with human comfort in this world.

Take for example human history since the turn of the 20th century - in the year 1900 the Europeans were pretty cocky, with colonial possessions over most of the earth. The subject peoples were not so lucky though.

Then came World War I, and the blood letting of millions. The "war to end wars" was over, followed by a brief fling in the roaring twenties. This was followed by the Great Depression, with purges and Holodomors occurring in Russia and the Ukraine.

This started to get better, but then there was World War II, with the holocaust, culminating in the dropping of the atomic bomb.

Korea followed just 8 years later, then proxy wars in Vietnam and Afghanistan and other places due to the Communist / Capitalist stand-off. The Soviet Union collapsed and Bush et all talked about a "New World Order". No sooner was the ink dry on the page when Gulf War I took place, and not long afterwards the Bosnian conflict.

Just as they seemed to be getting resolved, along came 9/11. Then war in Afghanistan, followed by Gulf War II. That seemed to be winding down, and we've got nuclear armed stand-off between India and Pakistan, and North Korea, with the Middle East aflame in Libya and Syria.

Whoever is running the spiritual show behind the scenes seems determined to ensure the human race never really settles down.

I wouldn't be surprised if they push us out into space, since we will quite possibly have fatally damaged our home planet, the "best of all possible worlds" in this universe.

Whether they'll then give us a bit of breathing space remains to be seen.

So I suppose wars are a part of the divine and satanic equations. But I doubt if they're just crude methods of population control.

 

[Bob Crowley]

I wouldn't be surprised if they push us out into space, since we will quite possibly have fatally damaged our home planet, the "best of all possible worlds" in this universe.

I lifted this paragraph from my post above. It was my old pastor who posited this possibility, adding "I think we'll learn to teleport."

Now he died in 1992, and at that stage there had been no "quantum teleporting" due to the property of "quantum entanglement". But come 1993, a seminal paper was produced as per the following Wikipedia quote.

Quantum teleportation - Wikipedia

And since then quantum teleportation has taken place. The Chinese have a satellite which they routinely use for quantum "teleportation" experiments.

Now that's a long way from teleporting a solid body, and the concept of teleporting living things, with their soul or spirit, is even further off. But I've got enough faith in my old pastor's prophetic gift to think he was right. I know this much - rocketry isn't going to get us there. I lifted this quote off the web -

https://www.google.com/search?q=how...ocket+ship&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b

"At a maximum speed of about 17,600 mph (about 28,300 kph), it would take the space shuttle, for example, about 165,000 years to reach Alpha Centauri."

Alpha Centauri is the nearest star.

Now allegedly it is impossible to teleport a human body due to the enormous amount of information that is necessary to move. But then I doubt if Dr. Robert Goddard visualised in 1923 that in just 46 years NASA would use the principles of liquid fueled rocketry he pioneered to put men on the moon. His little rockets went about as high as a telegraph pole.

Or that the chairman of IBM, Thomas J. Watson, who quoted in 1943 that "'I think there is a world market for about five computers", visualised the day of the PC, laptop and smart phone. He had no concept of the electronic miniaturisation that would take place with transistors and then chips. The computer he was talking about weighed 30 tons, and consumed the same power as 1600 x 100 watt bulbs.

The World's First Computer Was Bigger Than A T-Rex And 5 Million Times Weaker Than An iPhone

And for all that, it could execute 5,000 instructions per second. The iPhone 6, weighing in at 4.55 ounces? 25 billion instructions per second.

I think we'll learn to teleport due to manipulating quantum entanglement, and it will be instantaneous, not bound by the speed of light. What is bound by the speed of light is sending confirmation the experiment was successful. But if somebody is being sent on a one-way trip to Alpha Centauri, I doubt if they'd bother with confirmation. The senders would push the button and just hope for the best, and trust in the technology, something we all do every time we step onto a heavier than air machine, weighing a hundred tonnes.

 

[jhwatts]

The things in the Bible are a cause for the wars today.

Joshua 24: (14-16)
14 Now therefore fear the Lord, and serve him in sincerity and in truth: and put away the gods which your fathers served on the other side of the flood, and in Egypt; and serve ye the Lord. 15 And if it seem evil unto you to serve the Lord, choose you this day whom ye will serve; whether the gods which your fathers served that were on the other side of the flood, or the gods of the Amorites, in whose land ye dwell: but as for me and my house, we will serve the Lord. 16 And the people answered and said, God forbid that we should forsake the Lord, to serve other gods;

These gods are the reason for war. Those from before the flood and are those of early Babylon.

That is why Iran is on the radar at the moment. Iran, Iraq, Syria, etc.

I really think there is something to this.

12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations! 13 For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north: 14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High. 15 Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit. 16 They that see thee shall narrowly look upon thee, and consider thee, saying, Is this the man that made the earth to tremble, that did shake kingdoms; 17 That made the world as a wilderness, and destroyed the cities thereof; that opened not the house of his prisoners? 18 All the kings of the nations, even all of them, lie in glory, every one in his own house. 19 But thou art cast out of thy grave like an abominable branch, and as the raiment of those that are slain, thrust through with a sword, that go down to the stones of the pit; as a carcase trodden under feet. 20 Thou shalt not be joined with them in burial, because thou hast destroyed thy land, and slain thy people: the seed of evildoers shall never be renowned. 21 Prepare slaughter for his children for the iniquity of their fathers; that they do not rise, nor possess the land, nor fill the face of the world with cities. 22 For I will rise up against them, saith the Lord of hosts, and cut off from Babylon the name, and remnant, and son, and nephew, saith the Lord. 23 I will also make it a possession for the bittern, and pools of water: and I will sweep it with the besom of destruction, saith the Lord of hosts. 24 The Lord of hosts hath sworn, saying, Surely as I have thought, so shall it come to pass; and as I have purposed, so shall it stand: 25 That I will break the Assyrian in my land, and upon my mountains tread him under foot: then shall his yoke depart from off them, and his burden depart from off their shoulders.

Notice Lucifer is branded the Assyrian, The indo-Iranians believe they are Aryan and practice what is known as Assyrian-ism.

Look at this picture. You see the bird on the cliff.

Aryan race - Wikipedia

Hitler believed he could raise up the Aryan's. Look at the falcon in Nazi symbolism. See the similarities to what was on the cliff.

What about a little closer to home. Look over the front door of the federal reserve. Is Trump controlled by Jewish bankers. Is this why the Federal Reserve Bank is on his list? Is this why Trump keeps pointing the finger at Iran. Is Lucifer behind the debt slavery and all the evil that comes with it. You better believe it.

File:Reichsadler der Deutsches Reich (1933–1945).svg - Wikipedia


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I believe Lucifer and company use GMO, pharmaceuticals, chemical laden food, specific viruses, etc. to destroy ones that are not associated with him.

 

[Maria Sweet]

Hi Family,

Do you believe God condones some biblical battles to control the population?

Do you think it is a means to an end?

If we have free will why does God intervene?

Is the a biblical basis for war?

~Natsumi Lam~

All life is sacred. If God wanted to control the population, he would allow abortion. However, God says that abortion is a sin, since life begins as at conception (Jeremiah 1:5). If the world weren’t so saturated in the sin of murder of the unborn and actually followed God’s will, there wouldn’t be any abortions. Subsequently, the global population would be significantly higher than it is today. Therefore, it can be concluded that population control isn’t part of God’s divine plan for humanity.

 

[StevenMerten]

Hi Family,

Do you believe God condones some biblical battles to control the population?

Do you think it is a means to an end?

If we have free will why does God intervene?

Is the a biblical basis for war?

~Natsumi Lam~

Hello Natsumi,
God punishes mankind with war for their unrepentant wickedness.

The Second Secret of Fatima
from the Blessed Mother​

“You have seen hell where the souls of poor sinners go. To save them, God wishes to establish in the world devotion to my Immaculate Heart. If what I say to you is done, many souls will be saved and there will be peace. The war is going to end: but if people do not cease offending God, a worse one will break out during the Pontificate of Pius XI. When you see a night illumined by an unknown light, know that this is the great sign given you by God that he is about to punish the world for its crimes, by means of war, famine, and persecutions of the Church and of the Holy Father. To prevent this, I shall come to ask for the consecration of Russia to my Immaculate Heart, and the Communion of reparation on the First Saturdays. If my requests are heeded, Russia will be converted, and there will be peace; if not, she will spread her errors throughout the world, causing wars and persecutions of the Church. The good will be martyred; the Holy Father will have much to suffer; various nations will be annihilated. In the end, my Immaculate Heart will triumph. The Holy Father will consecrate Russia to me, and she shall be converted, and a period of peace will be granted to the world”.(7)

Quoted from: The Message of Fatima​